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Zodon 09-23-2008 11:05 AM

Looks like 4.0 is available now...Who wants to be a test dummy?

sharkcohen 09-23-2008 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Zodon View Post

Looks like 4.0 is available now...Who wants to be a test dummy?

I'll try it out tonight.

sharkcohen 09-23-2008 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by gurkey View Post

There was a rather short and change list on the Toshiba web site in Japan, but nothing has been confirmed, because nobody seems to have it yet...

Unfortunately, the description on the US website makes no sense:

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Overview: As part of our commitment to provide world-class service to our customers, Toshiba is supplying this firmware update for use by purchasers of Toshiba HD DVD Player models listed above. This firmware update improves support for Addresses certain disc playback related issues identified by Toshiba , Play state specification is changed (Advanced playback function) When "pause state" continues 3 hours.

All your base...

MorganB 09-23-2008 11:27 AM

here's the link for the XA2 version:


http://tacp.toshiba.com/tacpassets-i...-XA2-4000N.zip

slimm 09-23-2008 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by MorganB View Post

here's the link for the XA2 version:


http://tacp.toshiba.com/tacpassets-i...-XA2-4000N.zip

Just wanted to post that I was able to update my XA2 to 4.0 by burning the iso using Nero. Won't have time to see if anything has changed but I didn't have any issues with 3.0 as I have a 1080i display. Those with 1080p displays will have to chime in as to whether it has solved any issues they had.

HB GAMER 09-23-2008 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by thebland View Post

For what I paid, I was hoping to get newer titles.... but so goes the format war...

You reap what you sew.

Trackman 09-23-2008 01:06 PM

It would sure be nice if the DD+ bitstreaming dropout/skipping issue is fixed.

Will Munshower 09-23-2008 01:15 PM

Downloading now. I'll give it a whirl. Wish me luck.

sharkcohen 09-23-2008 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Trackman View Post

It would sure be nice if the DD+ bitstreaming dropout/skipping issue is fixed.

I've had no such issue with bitstreaming DD+. However, I have had this issue with bitstreaming TrueHD. I just let the player do the decoding now.

Will Munshower 09-23-2008 03:04 PM

My new SATA DVD burner isn't working with Nero nor DeepBurner. Bummer...Looks like I'll have to wait for Tosh to throw it up for the players.

I know I can eventually fix it (laziness) but if there are not reports that 4.0 is the bomb, I'm in no hurry...Will

ti-triodes 09-23-2008 03:20 PM

Think I'll stick with 2.7. The last 2 FW upgrades have proven this to be a good idea.

papacoach 09-23-2008 03:58 PM

Well, I can finally say that my jaggies are gone at 1080/24. I had tried 2.8 and 3.0(which seemed to make them worse), but eventually went back to 2.7.

I just finished installing 4.0 and threw on Transformers to see... and 'lo and behold' no more jaggies.

Thanks Toshiba, well done. I can only hope this firmware didn't wreck anything that wasn't broke!

Coach

Bill C. 09-23-2008 04:09 PM

It looks like Toshiba has refreshed the firmware for the entire lineage...even the HD-A1 has a 4.0 firmware release. Seriously, I'm impressed...it's far enough out from the format's demise that nobody would have really minded Toshiba no longer giving a damn, and here they are...

N8YWF 09-23-2008 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Will Munshower View Post

My new SATA DVD burner isn't working with Nero nor DeepBurner. Bummer...Looks like I'll have to wait for Tosh to throw it up for the players.

I know I can eventually fix it (laziness) but if there are not reports that 4.0 is the bomb, I'm in no hurry...Will

Try ImgBurn

luigionlsd 09-23-2008 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill C. View Post

It looks like Toshiba has refreshed the firmware for the entire lineage...even the HD-A1 has a 4.0 firmware release. Seriously, I'm impressed...it's far enough out from the format's demise that nobody would have really minded Toshiba no longer giving a damn, and here they are...

I went online to check Toshiba's site to see whether or not there were any other players' updates (I own an A1, A2 and A30), and there was an updated "post" on their support page listing all models as having updates (posted 09/22). However, the link to click "here" to view download links was non-existent. Is something wrong with me?

jerryg25 09-23-2008 06:32 PM

Go to the stickies at the beginning of this thread and a site is there that has all the latest updates.

N8YWF 09-23-2008 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by luigionlsd View Post

I went online to check Toshiba's site to see whether or not there were any other players' updates (I own an A1, A2 and A30), and there was an updated "post" on their support page listing all models as having updates (posted 09/22). However, the link to click "here" to view download links was non-existent. Is something wrong with me?

Click on HD DVD Players in Search by Product Type.

http://www.tacp.toshiba.com/customersupport/


luigionlsd 09-23-2008 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by jerryg25 View Post

Go to the stickies at the beginning of this thread and a site is there that has all the latest updates.

Clicked on there and the A30 link wasn't updated to 4.0, but thanks.

N8, thanks for the details. I clicked on the information update, which opens a pop-up, and the link on there was broken. Got to the link though! Thanks a lot!

sharkcohen 09-23-2008 07:35 PM

Jaggies issue with AVC encoded content (e.g. Transformers, other Paramount releases) appears to be fixed. Frame Rate Auto setting appears to still not work.

Anything else people would like checked?

Since my display properly deinterlaces film based content, I plan to continue to run 1080i from my XA2. I still watch alot of DVDs from my XA2, and 1080p24 output causes display issues with DVD menus, and some DVDs don't output properly in general at 1080p24. I also like the Mosquito Noise Reduction setting, and that is not available during 1080p24 output (noise reduction settings only affect DVD content, not HD DVD).

Scubawoman 09-23-2008 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by sharkcohen View Post

Jaggies issue with AVC encoded content (e.g. Transformers, other Paramount releases) appears to be fixed. Frame Rate Auto setting appears to still not work.

Anything else people would like checked?

Thanks for letting us know about the jaggies. I'll install 4.0 now and report back if I notice anything else. I'm not aware of any other issues left to deal with.

Frank D 09-23-2008 08:12 PM

Can someone also test to see if 4.0 will allow the BTB and WTW signals to go through still?

Scubawoman 09-23-2008 08:29 PM

I went from 2.7 directly to 4.0 and can report jaggies are definitely gone!
I didn't check if auto frame rate as I just change it myself so I don't care if it works.

Add:I don't know if it is just me, but I'm watching The Shooter and I swear the picture is even more clear and detailed than it was with 2.7.
What do you think sharkcohen?

dfchang 09-23-2008 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Trackman View Post

It would sure be nice if the DD+ bitstreaming dropout/skipping issue is fixed.

Trackman, can you elaborate a bit more on this problem? I have something similar. I put on Transformers which is Dolby Digital Plus ONLY and it skips every 30 or 40 seconds which is very annoying.

It does the same thing with Aeon Flux but this time because that disc had DTS I tried that and NO SKIPPING.

However, with every other disc I've tried including Bourne Ultimatum, 300, Batman Begins, there is NO problems with Dolby Digital Plus or any of the lossless codecs like True HD either.

I then tried with HD DVDs that have ONLY Dolby Digital Plus on them like Transformers such as Robin Hood and had NO problems.

So far, I've only had skips with Dolby Digital Plus on Transformers on Aeon Flux so what is going on and where is the problem? My XA2, the discs, or both?

It is VERY annoying because Transformers gives me no choice other than to either play it on my Xbox 360 HD player or buy one on Blu Ray.

Will turning the option to PCM from Bitstreaming solve this issue and is this an acceptable work around for this title?

And does anyone know if 4.0 fixes this??

Thanks for all input.

Dennis

Scubawoman 09-23-2008 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Frank D View Post

Can someone also test to see if 4.0 will allow the BTB and WTW signals to go through still?

What are BTB and WTW?

jcp2 09-23-2008 09:00 PM

Blacker than Black / whiter than white.

dfchang 09-23-2008 09:11 PM

sorry for the ignorance but after burning the firmware ISO on the disc, do I just pop it into the Toshiba XA2 or what? anything special I have to do after like reset or it's all automatic?

Thanks

Dennis

sharkcohen 09-23-2008 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Scubawoman View Post

I went from 2.7 directly to 4.0 and can report jaggies are definitely gone!
I didn't check if auto frame rate as I just change it myself so I don't care if it works.

Add:I don't know if it is just me, but I'm watching The Shooter and I swear the picture is even more clear and detailed than it was with 2.7.
What do you think sharkcohen?

I have Shooter, I'll check it out!

sharkcohen 09-23-2008 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by dfchang View Post

sorry for the ignorance but after burning the firmware ISO on the disc, do I just pop it into the Toshiba XA2 or what? anything special I have to do after like reset or it's all automatic?

Thanks

Dennis

Just pop it in, it will ask you if you want to update.

Trackman 09-23-2008 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by dfchang View Post

Trackman, can you elaborate a bit more on this problem? I have something similar. I put on Transformers which is Dolby Digital Plus ONLY and it skips every 30 or 40 seconds which is very annoying.

It does the same thing with Aeon Flux but this time because that disc had DTS I tried that and NO SKIPPING.

However, with every other disc I've tried including Bourne Ultimatum, 300, Batman Begins, there is NO problems with Dolby Digital Plus or any of the lossless codecs like True HD either.

I then tried with HD DVDs that have ONLY Dolby Digital Plus on them like Transformers such as Robin Hood and had NO problems.

So far, I've only had skips with Dolby Digital Plus on Transformers on Aeon Flux so what is going on and where is the problem? My XA2, the discs, or both?

It is VERY annoying because Transformers gives me no choice other than to either play it on my Xbox 360 HD player or buy one on Blu Ray.

Will turning the option to PCM from Bitstreaming solve this issue and is this an acceptable work around for this title?

And does anyone know if 4.0 fixes this??

Thanks for all input.

Dennis

I can't tell you much as I was sending PCM by necessity until about 6 weeks ago when i got a new AVR (Pio Elite 01). The first HD-DVD I tried was Tomb Raider (DD+). I noticed a skip in the sound every couple of minutes or so. I switched to DTS - no problems. I switched back and the skipping started. I tried another DD+ disc a few days later (can't recall which one) - same thing. PCM is fine, DTS is fine, True HD is fine (several Star Treks played flawlessly) I thought it was a bug in the AVR and posted in the 01 thread. Someone posted back that DD+ skipping by bitstream is a known Tosh issue with the A35.

Could someone try Tomb Raider on 4.0 and see?

MarkH 09-23-2008 10:08 PM

Can anybody confirm if there is a forced 24p output mode for those of use going through (amongst others) Yamaha receivers?


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