Originally Posted by dylanneild

Yes indeed, TrueHD is based on MLP.

That said, the standards are different, but I think the fact remains - if they -added- TrueHD 5.1 support (which is MLP based) then surely they can also -add- direct MLP support for DVD-A playback via firmware.

I think this is a lot more likely than SACD support, for sure.

That said, make it a rock solid HD-DVD/DVD movie player first and foremost - and I think that's what they're doing. WE won't likely see DVD-A support until long after the black/white/skipping issues are all solved.

Originally Posted by JG1

Ok let me ask.

A1 hooked to reciever threw digital coaxial cable decoded to DTS vrs 5.1 analog to the reciever listening to True HD.

How much better does it really sound? Is it a night and day kind of difference or something much much more subtle?

Originally Posted by tmarques


But I guess it'll be better to wait for the official firmware for that...

Originally Posted by John Kotches

Yes. Not a very solid answer is it? Sorry I can't be more comforting but there are two many variables to answer with any certainty.

The 5.1 with TrueHD has the potential to sound better, but the DTS track can have additional processing such as better Bass Management, Time Alignment and Room EQ tools that an analog input might lack. All of these could lead to a better experience with DTS via digital input than TrueHD via an analog input.

No question, all else being equal, that the TrueHD track should sound better but the practical aspects are important considerations.

Best Regards,

Originally Posted by dylanneild

You'll be happy - I'm running it in 720p right now and it's PERFECT.

Originally Posted by Q of BanditZ

Definitely yes.

Originally Posted by Macroblocker

you can always back up the firmware to 1.4 and reload the "official" 2.0 later, I have done this many times I loaded the 2.0 firmware before i left for work and everything seems great! work always gets in the way of my fun

Originally Posted by travx7

Since you are so well-informed, why don't you enlighten the rest of us with your HD news source(s)

Originally Posted by Q of BanditZ

Is it really as simple as me putting in the disc for whatever firmware I want and going for it, even if it means going backwards?

I'm tempted to roll it back to firmware 1.3 for a while and see how that goes, if nothing else.

It SEEMS like folks around here with 1.3 were doing better, on average...

Originally Posted by skogan

I usually just ask William.

Originally Posted by JG1

Ok let me ask.

A1 hooked to reciever threw digital coaxial cable decoded to DTS vrs 5.1 analog to the reciever listening to True HD.

How much better does it really sound? Is it a night and day kind of difference or something much much more subtle?


Also, is it worth it to spend $90 on the cables from http://www.bluejeanscable.com/store/6channel/index.htm

Or will the cheapest cables I can find some just as good?

Originally Posted by skogan

I usually just ask William.

Originally Posted by pteittinen

Got some news about 2.0 audio decoding you folks might find interesting.

I've got a Japanese HD DVD which has four audio tracks: PCM stereo, DTS 5.1 (96k/24bit), Dolby TrueHD 5.1 (96k/24bit) and DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1 (96k/24bit).

My XA1 is connected to a Pioneer VSA-AX10 receiver with both 5.1 analog and an optical cable. Did some testing, and here are the results:

Analog 5.1

PCM Stereo - sound from 2 speakers
DTS 5.1 - sound from all speakers
Dolby TrueHD - sound from all speakers
DTS-HD Master Audio - sound from all speakers

Optical
PCM Stereo - amp enters DPL II decoding mode (i.e. receives stereo audio)
DTS 5.1 - amp enters DTS decoding mode for 5.1ch output
Dolby TrueHD - amp enters DPL II decoding mode (i.e. receives stereo audio)
DTS-HD Master Audio - amp enters DTS decoding mode for 5.1ch output

Note: it clearly states DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1ch (96kHz/24bit) in the rear cover infobox.

Originally Posted by skogan

I usually just ask William.

Originally Posted by dylanneild

You'll be happy - I'm running it in 720p right now and it's PERFECT.

Originally Posted by William

User William here just fire away.

Originally Posted by dylanneild

In the docs it says that the HD-A1 can play DTS-HD Master Audio, but only by extracting the core DTS data.

I wonder if this is what's happening - the player is just decoding the lossy DTS data versus playing back the actual lossless data.

Is there any audible difference between the DTS and the DTS-HD MA when playing back over analog?

Originally Posted by dylanneild

I downgraded to 1.3 from 1.4 (put the disc in) - same problems.
Updated back to 1.4 for a bit.
Found a 1.2 disc - burned and downgraded to that - same problems.
Went back to 1.4 again.
Am now on 2.0 (the leaked one).

So yeah, you can bounce up and down, but I'm not sure if that will solve your problems.

Indeed, when the 'official' 2.0 appears I'll probably put my 1.3 disc in, update my player to that and then use the internet update to go to the officially released 2.0 before I render any judgement on the whole "skipping" problem.

I haven't had any skips yet with 2.0 leaked but still - am also optimistic that this is a beta and that the final version has some more fixes in it.

Originally Posted by William

Before the upgrade if you selected a DTS-HD track did you receive a warning screen similar to the TrueHD screen?

If not how do you know for sure you are getting true DTS-HD or Master and not core only?