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Enjoy the DVD then?
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I mean, what's the point of HD? To see things Clearly, like much realistic, seeing things much sharper and 3D feel right?

But, with this movie's Grains effect, I Don't think it makes a big difference between the DVD version and HD DVD version.

Both the DVD and HD DVD/Blu-ray will have a lot of Grains anyway, so Why bother with the HD format as it won't look very clear anyway?
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Sucks then, I DON'T agree with the style! I think DVD version will work just as good, No need for HD for this!

I don't like Grains, intentional or not!

Whether you like it or not film grain is a natural part of film.

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WOW the Movie is Extremely Grainy!!!

I will NOT be getting it now... Rent only!

You are halarious !I saw this in IMAX it was grainy as all get out . Enjoy the DVD the rest of us film lovers will enjoy the fact that we are seeing a great representation of the original in our homes.

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I mean, what's the point of HD? To see things Clearly, like much realistic, seeing things much sharper and 3D feel right?

But, with this movie's Grains effect, I Don't think it makes a big difference between the DVD version and HD DVD version.

Both the DVD and HD DVD/Blu-ray will have a lot of Grains anyway, so Why bother with the HD format as it won't look very clear anyway?


I disagree. I think the advantage of HD is to present a film as close possible to the orginal master wrt both PQ and AQ.
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WOW the Movie is Extremely Grainy!!!

I will NOT be getting it now... Rent only!

Wow, im not sure what to say to that.

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I mean, what's the point of HD? To see things Clearly, like much realistic, seeing things much sharper and 3D feel right?

But, with this movie's Grains effect, I Don't think it makes a big difference between the DVD version and HD DVD version.

Both the DVD and HD DVD/Blu-ray will have a lot of Grains anyway, so Why bother with the HD format as it won't look very clear anyway?

christ.

this is getting as freakin' ridiculous as "oh noes! what are these black bars doing on my widescreen TV! why can't all directors film in 1.78:1 ration!??!!!1111"

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You are halarious !I saw this in IMAX it was grainy as all get out . Enjoy the DVD the rest of us film lovers will enjoy the fact that we are seeing a great representation of the original in our homes.

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absolutely agree
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If you don't think that looks many times more clear and detailed than the DVD your display is broken, at the very least.
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You are halarious !I saw this in IMAX it was grainy as all get out . Enjoy the DVD the rest of us film lovers will enjoy the fact that we are seeing a great representation of the original in our homes.

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This is madness!!
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But, with this movie's Grains effect, I Don't think it makes a big difference between the DVD version and HD DVD version.

Both the DVD and HD DVD/Blu-ray will have a lot of Grains anyway, so Why bother with the HD format as it won't look very clear anyway?

did you bother looking at the original post?

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this is not madness.....
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I can appreciate that some people don't like the "style" the director intended. It looks as if the HD DVD is the exact representation of the theatrical movie. However, if they had the current version and a "grain-free" version, I'd probably opt for the grain-free. I know it's not what the director intended and it would ruin the "style" of the movie and probably show the CGI work too much, but I just like very clear and clean imagery. Just a personal preference.
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I can appreciate that some people don't like the "style" the director intended. It looks as if the HD DVD is the exact representation of the theatrical movie. However, if they had the current version and a "grain-free" version, I'd probably opt for the grain-free. I know it's not what the director intended and it would ruin the "style" of the movie and probably show the CGI work too much, but I just like very clear and clean imagery. Just a personal preference.


Eh, KK looked great and didn't show anything.. I have the movie (in HD-DVD) and I hope the grain doesn't take away from the experience.. I can deal with alot since DVD doesn't seem to look bad to me @ 102"..

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Looks like a great transfer, and I hope the movie is good enough to distract me from the excessive grain.

Reminds me a bit of The Devil's Rejects - the only HD presentation (so far) that I found myself preferring the SD version.

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The HD presentation allows you to see the intentional grain distinctly and clearly, and not the muddy, muffled mess of "noise" when its compressed down to DVD resolution.

Refusing to watch a movie because of grain is worse than not watching a movie because its black and white.
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Since this is a Cmbo disc, Just flip the disc and watch the DVD.
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The HD presentation allows you to see the intentional grain distinctly and clearly, and not the muddy, muffled mess of "noise" when its compressed down to DVD resolution.

Refusing to watch a movie because of grain is worse than not watching a movie because its black and white.

Agreed. I mean seriously this is exactly the kind of movie we need Hi-def for. Those DVD shots looks like someone wiped petroleum jelly all over the lens.
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um, that's how this film was MADE. That's the point!

Don't waste your time. Some people think that the second a film hits HD DVD or BD it will magically look as clear and bright as looking through a window. Just like there are those that don't understand what the black bars are for, other just don't understand what HD really means. HD is here to give us the best possible representation of a film's theatrical presentation. 300 perfectly represents what you saw in theaters. If you loved the movie in theaters, you'll love it on HD/BD. If you didn't like the look of the movie in theaters then you will not like it on HD/BD and you'll probably hate the DVD.

I know many people are already getting excited for the future release of Transformers on HD but, we will see these same comments for that movie because there was quit a bit of grain in Transformers (especially dark scenes). I don't understand what some people are doing in the theaters but they are obviously not watching the movie. If they had, you would know exactly what to expect on the HD release.

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Don't waste your time. Some people think that the second a film hits HD DVD or BD it will magically look as clear and bright as looking through a window. Just like there are those that don't understand what the black bars are for, other just don't understand what HD really means. HD is here to give us the best possible representation of a film's theatrical presentation. 300 perfectly represents what you saw in theaters. If you loved the movie in theaters, you'll love it on HD/BD. If you didn't like the look of the movie in theaters then you will not like it on HD/BD and you'll probably hate the DVD.

I know many people are already getting excited for the future release of Transformers on HD but, we will see these same comments for that movie because there was quit a bit of grain in Transformers (especially dark scenes). I don't understand what some people are doing in the theaters but they are obviously not watching the movie. If they had, you would know exactly what to expect on the HD release.

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.... I don't understand what some people are doing in the theaters but they are obviously not watching the movie. If they had, you would know exactly what to expect on the HD release.

Staring at Megan Fox of course

Atleast in transformers...

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Wow...I can't believe all the complaints about a flawless transfer to HD.

I saw 300 in a digital DLP theater and there was a lot of grain.

Are people saying they don't want a perfect version of the theatrical, they want a "filter-less" cut for home theater?

I'm a little shocked I'm hearing this. If Warner decided to produce a cut of the movie that had no filters it would look horribly fake.

Should Sin City be colored when it comes out? Honestly, WTF?
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Wow...I can't believe all the complaints about a flawless transfer to HD.

I saw 300 in a digital DLP theater and there was a lot of grain.

Are people saying they don't want a perfect version of the theatrical, they want a "filter-less" cut for home theater?

I'm a little shocked I'm hearing this. If Warner decided to produce a cut of the movie that had no filters it would look horribly fake.

Should Sin City be colored when it comes out? Honestly, WTF?


Speaking for myself, I haven't been to the theater in forever so I don't remember grain but I do remember black dots from the film so I'm glad that's atleast not there.. But honestly people have different tastes so you can't expect everyone to like grain or dislike it.. If everyone liked the samething then this would be a dull place..

And Sin City would've been just as bad with color..

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Wow...I can't believe all the complaints about a flawless transfer to HD.

I saw 300 in a digital DLP theater and there was a lot of grain.

Are people saying they don't want a perfect version of the theatrical, they want a "filter-less" cut for home theater?

I'm a little shocked I'm hearing this. If Warner decided to produce a cut of the movie that had no filters it would look horribly fake.

Should Sin City be colored when it comes out? Honestly, WTF?

If they color Sin City they need to use only a 10 pack of crayons.
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I wasn't distracted by the grain in my two viewings. The PQ was amazing and looked exactly like it looked in theaters. Now Miami Vice, that's some excessive grain.
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LMAO! I remember about 3 or 4 months ago, people were predicting this EXACT reaction a lot of viewers would have towards this HD DVD/Blu Ray release. This movie would not be the same without the gritty, grainy picture........I love it!

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I wasn't distracted by the grain in my two viewings. The PQ was amazing and looked exactly like it looked in theaters. Now Miami Vice, that's some excessive grain.

Madness? This ... is ... AVS!!

But still belongs there. I remember just after seeing the movie, some people were talking about how great it would in Hi-def. Then someone (I forgot who) decreed that people are going to be pissed about the noise, just as we warned about the grain here. The fact is a lot seems to be missed in the theater because A.) A Hundred foot screen really separates the grain and noise to a point that it doesn't look "crowded". B.) the atmosphere in a theater is different and honestly at $10 after ticket, food, and pop per person for a single viewing, its much easier to get sucked in.
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I mean, what's the point of HD? To see things Clearly, like much realistic, seeing things much sharper and 3D feel right?

But, with this movie's Grains effect, I Don't think it makes a big difference between the DVD version and HD DVD version.

Both the DVD and HD DVD/Blu-ray will have a lot of Grains anyway, so Why bother with the HD format as it won't look very clear anyway?

Hopefully you can find a full screen SD version somewhere, I can imagine you probably hate those black bars too.
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WOW the Movie is Extremely Grainy!!!

I will NOT be getting it now... Rent only!

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Wow, I didnt see this in the theaters but it is grainy as hell. I'm sure its an exact transfer but the graininess could have been toned down.
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