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post #1 of 14 Old 02-27-2020, 02:58 PM - Thread Starter
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Question Thinking about HD Radio. Have questions.

I'm thinking about buying a HD radio receiver and was wondering if it's worth it in my area. What is the realistic bottom dBm I'm looking at for a HD Radio to lock onto a digital broadcast?
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Went ahead and bought a Sangean HDT-20. I guess I'll set it up and see how it goes. There's always the option to return it.

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Researching antennas. Looks like its the Winegard HD-6010 since the AntennaCraft FMSS is no longer produced.

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Sure you need that? OKC's pretty flat and the FMs are fairly robust. At ten miles, you're a long way from the point you'll need much aluminum. My wife's family is in Warr Acres and, last time I was there, I could get just about everybody on my HD walkman-style radio. That's not to say it's not a good antenna or you don't need it for other reasons. I have my BA jacked into my attic television antenna array. In my Tampa garage, I put an F-connector on an Insignia tabletop HD radio and connect that to a $5 set of rabbit ears. I have lots of signal issues in the garage, but it's nothing repositioning the rabbit ears doesn't solve for the few subchannels I want.

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Not sure yet. I will hopefully get to play with it this weekend and see about the reception. That's kinda why I was inquiring about the bottom dBm needed to lock the HD channels. That would give me a good idea what stations I could get and if I may want an antenna to help with stations further away. My wife would love to get 104.5 out of Tulsa, but I don't know if that's possible even with an outside antenna.

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Is she interested in the main channel or one of the subchannels? You're too far for an HD lock on KMYZ. You could POSSIBLY get the analog signal with a welll-designed yagi at a decent height. You have adjacent-channel issues from Granite and Ponca City. Doubt you're gonna spend the cash required to overcome that. If it's KMYZ's main channel she wants, I suggest just streaming it.

For my money, KOSU-HD2 would be my go-to in OKC. I appreciate good classical. We have one here in Tampa that's just delicious on HD Radio.

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She's interested in the main channel, but there may be a local multicast that provides the same genre. I'm trying to cut our streaming down as I've been hit with overages by my ISP twice recently. I guess that's what happens when a family of 5 all stream their own movies, music and games. Already got OTA for TV so if I can find a good radio station locally maybe that's one less thing eating up the bandwidth. She listens to the radio in the car constantly, so hopefully with the fidelity a HD radio will provide she'll hear an improvement over streaming and use that instead. Well just have to see. Thanks for the assist.
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Went ahead and bought a Sangean HDT-20. I guess I'll set it up and see how it goes. There's always the option to return it.
Hello Witchboard,

How are you liking the Sangean HDT-20 HD receiver by now?

Save your money.
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Hello Witchboard,

How are you liking the Sangean HDT-20 HD receiver by now?

Well, I don't really have anything to compare it to other than a standard receiver. It seems to work well. I still haven't mounted my antenna yet, so I've been using the one that came with it. It receives up to at least 4 channels on the same frequency. That's the max our stations have out here.

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Well, I don't really have anything to compare it to other than a standard receiver. It seems to work well. I still haven't mounted my antenna yet, so I've been using the one that came with it. It receives up to at least 4 channels on the same frequency. That's the max our stations have out here.
Thank you. I have been thinking about purchasing one to take the place of my older separate FM tuner.

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Thank you. I have been thinking about purchasing one to take the place of my older separate FM tuner.
You bet. Looks like the price has gone up since I bought mine. The reason I got this specific model is because I wanted digital output. It was heavier than I expected it to be and seems to be well built. The reviews on Amazon were positive at the time of my purchase. Only more time spent with it could I express my own opinion.

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Wish I'd seen this earlier. I have 2 Sangean HD radios, though not the type you have. I have an HDR-16 and an HDR-18, both of which I purchased within about the past year. The 16 is a portable, and while running on batteries it'll pick up the stations fmfool lists down to about -55dBm. Some down to -65dBm come in, at least while I'm upstairs (2-story house). There are a few stations fmfool lists within that range that I cannot detect there's any transmission there at all, while others in that range come in with only a small to moderate amount of static. This is with the telescoping antenna, of course. Unfortunately, none of the stations in my area with that weak of signal strength at my location broadcast an HD Radio signal.



I lived in Norman for a short while, years ago, so I could have told you you've quite a job to do if you want to pick up Tulsa from OKC clearly. I can't imagine HD signals would make it. Tucson is a similar distance from me as Tulsa is from OKC (maybe a bit further than that), and Tucson FM stations are essentially not there.


I _am_ curious, though, to hear more of what you think of that receiver as you gain more experience with it. I don't have a home stereo system any more (to my disappointment), but a receiver like that HDT-20 might still be useful to me at home. Or I could just go on using my HDR-16 but get some speakers for it.


I'd also be curious to hear what you think of the AM side of the tuner, if you ever use it. I don't know (or don't recall?) whether the HDT-20 has a built-in ferrite antenna. I'm quite happy with the HDR-16's AM tuner + built-in antenna, and I'm _very_ happy with the HDR-18's antenna + AM tuner.

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I'd also be curious to hear what you think of the AM side of the tuner, if you ever use it. I don't know (or don't recall?) whether the HDT-20 has a built-in ferrite antenna. I'm quite happy with the HDR-16's AM tuner + built-in antenna, and I'm _very_ happy with the HDR-18's antenna + AM tuner.
The HDT-20 doesn't come with internal antennas, but did come with a T antenna for FM and an AM loop antenna. The only AM station I typically listened to was news radio and it's simulcast on a FM HD subchannel. Unless I find something else in the AM band I'm interested in that isn't simulcast, I'll likely not be using AM at all anymore.

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The only AM station I typically listened to was news radio and it's simulcast on a FM HD subchannel.
There are a couple AMs here that do the same thing. I’m glad insofar as my house is a giant interference-laden faraday cage (stucco, but some MAJOR noise inside).
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