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I know I should probably just use 10 gauge speaker wire, its just that if 8 was available, why not. With amplifiers having to be in a closet becasue of noise, the runs are going to have to be 25-30 feet. Not a problem with 10 gauge, its just that if 8 was available, I don't see a problem using 8 gauge either.

I've been doing some Googling regarding banana connection vs spade and not anything factual coming up... I had no problem using banana with the BH subs becasue they are amazingly efficient and so easy to power... I guess the thought of running up to 4000W/driver just makes me think about these things more than usual.

Go with the Speakons. They are made for high power applications and are absolutely fool-proof. I don't think I'll use any other method on future projects.
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I'll second speakons, once you try them it's hard to think of using anything else. They may not have the cosmetic appeal of some banana/spades but from a high power and functionality perspective, they are amazing.

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The speakers have already been built a while back. Either way, I'm happy with my choice.
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jesus...of course you will be happy. you are creating arguably one of the most impactful systems of all time of all time!

we are all super excited to follow your build. from time to time it may seem like we are busting your balls or something, but mostly we are just trying to help out.

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Just a quick update:

1) I'm currently waiting for the LMS 5400 drivers at this point. The cabinets have been completed for a while now.

2) The black Caesar Stone Quartz will be here next week, but I will not have the fabrication done until the LMS 5400 drivers are in my hands and I can verify that the cutouts are 100% correct. The black quartz material and fabrication costs will be $6,000.00+, so it makes sense to wait to place the driver in the cuttouts first, and verify the cutouts.

3) I decided a while back that I will cover all surfaces of the cabinet with mitered stone, so this will be a complete stone box. The good news as I mentioned earlier is that it will be only 1 cm thick. Not many companies offer this thin of a thickness and it had to be special ordered. I had to add and additional slab to the order once I decided to cover all 6 surfaces and make a complete stone box. either way, it is due the first week of Januray.

4) Phil Marchand said the custom bassis should ship out within one week. I had some custom 2 ft XLR cables made at Blue Jeans cable which will connect the Meridian 861 (v4) to the bassis, and then another set of 25' XLR will run to the closet in the back of the room which is where the (2) Lab Gruppen FP+ 14000 will sit.

5) The Lab Gruppen FP+14000 220V versions were ordered last week and should be here the first week of January.

6) I ran 16 runs of 7 guage speaker wire to the back closet (a month ago). I used both leads on the 10 guage Belden wire since it was so cheap with that 500 ft spool of speaker wire... The XLR cables, speaker wire, and 220 lines are all there in the closet, just waiting for the amps.

So essentially, I'm just waiting on the LMS 5400. Hopefully they will be in by mid January because I'd like to have them finished by the end of January.
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I've been wondering where you were at on this project. GL and don't be shy with the pics.
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YES! Pix please!

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The two Lab Gruppen FP+ 14000 arrived today

The power cord is hard wired to the internal, no way to change power cord. My 220receptacle outlelts don't match... I guess I'll have to have electrician come back out to change outlet to match this plug:
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Here is the Power plug and the receptacle:
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"I've been wondering where you were at on this project."

me too. glad to see that you received your amps. any preliminary pics of your cabs?

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Chris,

You can either switch the outlets or switch the plugs on the end of the cords. Either way.
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I was wondering about this build.

Any update from TC about the subs? Are they still scheduled to be delivered at the end of this month?
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I hope they are back on track.

I emailed them about pricing and they got back to me within 6 hours.

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You can either switch the outlets or switch the plugs on the end of the cords. Either way.

The plug is hard molded (as shown in the picture) and goes directly into the amp, so there is no ability to change the power cord in any way. I'll check again, since I was tired.

I guess I'll have to change the receptical....
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"I've been wondering where you were at on this project."

me too. glad to see that you received your amps. any preliminary pics of your cabs?

The 4cm thick baltic birch portion of the cabs have been done for a while and tons of pics are earlier on this thread. The special order Black Quartz Caeser Stone should be in any day or might be in already, I have to call. the weakest link is the LMS5400 driver availability since there is no way I'm going to pay $7K in stone and stone fabrication costs until I see the drivers fit 100%

I'm really hoping the drivers are coming in soon...
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you should be able to find an adapter. here is just one source:
http://tony-chen.amazonwebstore.com/...s-Adapters.htm

figure out what the exact type of connection is at each end so that you know what to ask for.
here is a source that shows the various ends:
http://www.frentzandsons.com/Hardwar...receptacle.htm

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"special order Black Quartz Caeser Stone should be in any day"

can't wait to see it.

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I'll get an adaptor if needed, but the electrician is fairly cheap... I wonder if he can swap out the parts since those twist lock receptacles are like 40.00 each... or such I don't remember... He'll do it for nothing the labor part, or something trivial like 20.00
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The plug is hard molded (as shown in the picture) and goes directly into the amp, so there is no ability to change the power cord in any way. I'll check again, since I was tired.

I guess I'll have to change the receptical....

Hmmm. They don't usually do that on big pro amps like this because they know that a few different tupes of plugs may be used. You could always cut the sucker off and strip the wire and add the appropriate plug. Not a big deal really, but I can understand if you don't want to do that first thing with your brand new multi million dollar multi gigawatt amps.
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Hey Health Nut ! Long time no see my friend.

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"I'll get an adaptor if needed, but the electrician is fairly cheap..."
cool. i just wanted to kick in the option of an adapter.

"I can understand if you don't want to do that first thing with your brand new multi million dollar multi gigawatt amps."
lol. if i dropped that coin on amps, i'd be hesitant to chop the plugs too.

i'll go back to lurking now...

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The two Lab Gruppen FP+ 14000 arrived today

The power cord is hard wired to the internal, no way to change power cord. My 220receptacle outlelts don't match... I guess I'll have to have electrician come back out to change outlet to match this plug:

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The plug is hard molded (as shown in the picture) and goes directly into the amp, so there is no ability to change the power cord in any way. I'll check again, since I was tired.

I guess I'll have to change the receptical....

Curious... Be sure to double check the label, etc, that you do indeed have a 220V unit, as that power cord is a common 20A 120V plug. Typically a higher Voltage plug will have the other fork turned.

As others mentioned, you can always just retrofit the plug by cutting the current connector off and re-terminating appropriately.

Again, double check the Voltage operation of the amp.

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Photo LG4 shows the voltage... It came direct from LG Sweden... Seems 220V to me so far...
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Hey Health Nut ! Long time no see my friend.

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Good idea on the receptacle change, its much easier...
Nice pics there of the new equipment... did we get pics of the Cabinets...?
Maybe they can return the old ones...

I haven't heard anything on the update either from TC-Sounds, waiting on my lone wolf as well... getting close... I got my hands full on another project anyways...
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Bottom of page 3 and top of page 4 show the finished Baltic Birch portion of the cabinets from October 25th... Just waiting on the drivers to put on the stone... all 6 surfaces will be stone, a complete miter cut stone box.
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. Just waiting on the drivers to put on the stone... all 6 surfaces will be stone, a complete miter cut stone box.

That will be one bad ass setup!

Every time I see your signature I think you are in Pittsburgh and get excited since Pitt is only 60 miles from me...until I read further.

I would love to see those bad boys!

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That will be one bad ass setup!

Every time I see your signature I think you are in Pittsburgh and get excited since Pitt is only 60 miles from me...until I read further.

I would love to see those bad boys!

Born and rasied in Pittsburgh, parents are there... but out in San Fran for who knows how long... the outdoors and weather are like a human trap, but the California govt and cost of living kinda ruin it a little, so we'll see what happens...
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the outdoors and weather are like a human trap, but the California govt and cost of living kinda ruin it a little, so we'll see what happens...

Were in agreement there but then you step outside on a day like today and it is 70 with beautiful clear skies. I actually had shorts on over the weekend and when I get home
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Born and rasied in Pittsburgh, parents are there... but out in San Fran for who knows how long... the outdoors and weather are like a human trap, but the California govt and cost of living kinda ruin it a little, so we'll see what happens...

Ya, I hear ya. I have some friends just outside San Fran. They love it, but complain about the cost of living. I can only imagine.

I do envy the weather! Living her is punishing this time of year.

Congrats on a great build. I am looking forward to seeing the final result and your impressions.

I still love my LMSs. It is one very special driver.

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