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post #31 of 1120 Old 11-12-2012, 09:54 PM - Thread Starter
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Ok, here's the first-draft of the floor plans. This is if I extend the dimensions to 20x24ft and make the walls 11 inches thick.








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The other roll has arrived from parts express. One less thing to worry about.
I have about 300 already (guestimating), this will be added upon that.
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You're not planning to run in wall rated wire?
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There are only 4 things that can burn this structure to the ground.

In order of likelyhood:
#1) The wall heaters explode
#2) The amplifiers explode
#3) Someone douces the room with gasoline
#4) It gets hit by a lightning bolt
(I do not permit smoking, so that's not a possibility.)

This isn't a dwelling, additionally there is only one room to burn down here; fire rated wiring isn't going to make any difference if the walls are already on fire, there is no concern for spreading here.

The way I see it is that *if* you are in the room when its on fire, you can just exit it and/or try to put it out.
Afterwords, fetching the nearest garden hose and/or a bag of marshmallows biggrin.gif
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Most fires are electrical. So the items that you are leaving off:

Loose electrical connection at a switch, plug, junction box, panel or any other electrical device.
Overloading a circuit repeatedly.
A shorted wire. (drywall screw hitting a wire)
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Cool project.

Anytime I see someone consider a room build, or I consider a dedicated build (I'm going to build a dedicated, all out room next, my current multi-purpose room is comprimised), one of the first room elements I think about is bass trapping. In my opinion, it seems way to few rooms possess enough bass trapping. If I'm retro-fitting an existing room, or building a room ground up, .... I'm thinking a bass trap tour de force.

I'm guessing you've given this some consideration, just sayin' it's hard to have an excessive amount.

Clearly, you've got the subs covered ..... cool.gif

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I am watching this thread with great interest, it should be great when finished! smile.gif


I assume that the cupboard area next to where you walk in the room itself is for all the equipment to power everything?


Because I was just thinking...

How much room does a fan sub need behind it to run? You could create another cupboard and leave it for future use as a fan sub enclosure wink.gif or you could even use the roof space as the enclosure and have the fan in the ceiling? I'm not sure how loud that would end up outside, though... biggrin.gif lol
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I assume that the cupboard area next to where you walk in the room itself is for all the equipment to power everything?

Correct. I figure two full racks should be more than enough.

I do have existing room treatments that I will be reusing, I doubt I will have the space or budget to go all-out in that domain. I currently have a J shaped room and so I have enough subs sprinkled around the room that it mostly equalizes itself with pure brute force (time will tell for the new one).

I'll be doing all the wiring and DW'ing myself, so I'll make sure it's done correctly.
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In case you're wondering, this is the exact version of the song I was playing here, it's the UC Davis California Orch. You can skip the first 48 seconds.

I personally don't think a better version of this song than this, exists.

If that doesn't test your system's dynamic range, I don't know what would.
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In case you're wondering, this is the exact version of the song I was playing here, it's the UC Davis California Orch. You can skip the first 48 seconds.
I personally don't think a better version of this song than this, exists.
If that doesn't test your system's dynamic range, I don't know what would.

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I purchased 1100sq of hickory flooring. Whatcha' think?

They said it was their most popular and fastest selling stuff... it's not too difficult to see why, it's pretty sweet looking.
The bathrooms are being done in marble-title; and the bedrooms and home theater are being done in matching carpet.
My house has $20,000 worth of wood flooring in it... but that's ok, because I actually owe the bank $760,000 eek.gif... and I'm loving every second of it biggrin.gif

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Today is major moving day. Everything that can be moved, (except the absolute essentials), will be.
The flooring won't be totally finished until the 19th, so I can't move any of my system until the day after; so I have time to squeak in just one last song, before all hell breaks loose.

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Just found out the theater is being dug/poured on the 26th.
The move went well today; 90% of the big stuff has now been moved.
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My house has $20,000 worth of wood flooring in it... but that's ok, because I actually owe the bank $760,000 eek.gif]
WTFuuuuuuu....!!!

That is a LOT of money!! eek.gif

Will be awesome when it's all done, though, and you can't take it with you when you go so you might as well enjoy it wink.gifbiggrin.gif

I hope the moving in goes smoothly as these things can!
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Is that a golden spitoon?

If the theater is as nice as the place then this will be fun to watch progress.
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I don't think that is his house.

http://www.krono-original.com/laminate-floor-vintage-narrow

Looks to be a marketing shot for a laminate flooring product.
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Is that a golden spitoon?

If the theater is as nice as the place then this will be fun to watch progress.
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Ahhhh.

My bad.

I am still wondering what that thing is next to the chair. The shinny gold/copper thing.

Sorry for the topic deviation... Keep the build pics coming!tongue.gif
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I am still wondering what that thing is next to the chair. The shinny gold/copper thing.
It appears to be some sort of lamp.
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Here is some before and after pics.

Before (Yuck... butt ugly):







After sexification:



Here's a walk through of part of the house. Sorry for the mess, everything is all over the place and I haven't had time to do anything about it.



and the party has only just begun, and far from finished, haven't even repainted yet... the before and after's of the theater will be just as drastic.
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I have moved 75% of my theater equipment at this point, just have to transport 6 more subwoofers, my 120" projector screen and my HTPC and power conditioners.

This will be my last night in the old house.

The theater sexification starts up on the 26th... which is going to take weeks to finish the rough-in;
and months for all the detail work (devils in the details).

The projector box will be one of the last things I will make, haven't even put thought into that yet.

I think I'm going to paint the theater completely black, that seems to be the main color scheme for most of my stuff.



Normal people build the electrical outlets by putting holes in their walls and canned lights, I will not be doing that because that is the worst thing you can do for sound proofing.
Holes in the walls? That's just dumb. All my outlets will be housed in the theater columns, as it should be. A true room-in-a-room, to the n-th degree. To the z-th degree. It will be so air tight it will be like a fish-tank, only the purpose-built ventilation will be a hole and what other little air that might manage to seep past the dual external solid-core door seals; and that's it, no other holes.
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I think I'm going to paint the theater completely black, that seems to be the main color scheme for most of my stuff.
Have you thought about some sort of wall covering, such as suede (or suede-effect) or a matte-velvet-type material? Would add some depth when the lights are up and would also suck in light and reflections and maybe a few sound reflections? smile.gif
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I kept waiting for you to lift the camera during your tour. Nothing to see but the floor?

Are you consulting the folks in the dedicated theater forum on your design? Lots of free knowledge in there. Couldn't hurt.
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Have you thought about some sort of wall covering, such as suede (or suede-effect) or a matte-velvet-type material? Would add some depth when the lights are up and would also suck in light and reflections and maybe a few sound reflections? smile.gif

I do have cloth blackout curtains from the windows in my previous room, and I was thinking of reusing those for the front where the screen luminescence would be at maximum. All my acoustical panels are black foam, so that helps absorb light too. But I have thought about some sort of black cloth wall-covering.
I had normal white walls before, so anything would be an improvement over that... Here is what I'm migrating away from:

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Both of your setups are completely crazy!

Might be weird but when your home theater is finished. depending on where you live, id love to swing by and hear this setup. Although idk.. I am happy with my Arx speakers.. You'll prolly give me the upgrade bug for them too! If my car comes back totaled. Might buy a cheaper car and upgrade my setup a little biggrin.gif
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Are you consulting the folks in the dedicated theater forum on your design? Lots of free knowledge in there. Couldn't hurt.

Nope, but I did read the "what not to do" thread on there. I found that many of those mistakes do not even apply to my design.
I read that several people had spent 2 years designing their system, WHAT??? I spent maybe 48hours total-time.

I find most things self-intuitive and common sense, maybe it's just because I have a fundemental grasp of physics, chemistry, math and audio.
Things such as high density and rigidity, sealed systems and the decoupling of things, just seems natural to me.

Some of that could also be because of my career/day job, as a Senior Software Engineer for a subdivision of the Department of Energy that I do not want to ever reference by name. wink.gif But let's just say, their systems are far more complex and granular in detail than a theater-room construct.
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Here is my 1000watt temp rig while I build out the theater. Can't wait...

I am now fully moved in. just got my internet hooked up moments ago.
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I do have cloth blackout curtains from the windows in my previous room, and I was thinking of reusing those for the front where the screen luminescence would be at maximum. All my acoustical panels are black foam, so that helps absorb light too. But I have thought about some sort of black cloth wall-covering.
I had normal white walls before, so anything would be an improvement over that... Here is what I'm migrating away from:
You're not married, are you? LoL
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I don't know whether or not he's married. However, my primary listening room (our kitchen family room) has been serving double duty as HT, and where I perform all sorts of experiments over the years. Everything one can imagine, varying acoustics ie diffusion, absorption, multi-sub arrays/comparos, main LCR comparos, cables, large pro audio gear, and floor mic/boom mic for measurements, .... you name it, ..... it can get disarrayed at times, and for extended periods.

This system is our "daily driver" though My wife is phenomenally understanding and very patient. When needed, everything tidys up nicely. For example, we just hosted Thanksgiving and everything looked great.

Her tolerance has manifested itself from her love of great music, well executed soundtracks and explosive special effects. She really appreciates the realism and overall capability of the system/room to blow her away at a moments notice.

My point is although it may be appear as if he's not married, you never know. cool.gif


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I don't know whether or not he's married. However, my primary listening room (our kitchen family room) has been serving double duty as HT, and where I perform all sorts of experiments over the years. Everything one can imagine, varying acoustics ie diffusion, absorption, multi-sub arrays/comparos, main LCR comparos, cables, large pro audio gear, and floor mic/boom mic for measurements, .... you name it, ..... it can get disarrayed at times, and for extended periods.
This system is our "daily driver" though My wife is phenomenally understanding and very patient. When needed, everything tidys up nicely. For example, we just hosted Thanksgiving and everything looked great.
Her tolerance has manifested itself from her love of great music, well executed soundtracks and explosive special effects. She really appreciates the realism and overall capability of the system/room to blow her away at a moments notice.
My point is although it may be appear as if he's not married, you never know. cool.gif
Best of luck with the new digs.

You are a lucky man!

Anything with base in it = TOO LOUD!!!! GET RID OF IT!!!!

No matter how hard I try , I just can't explain to her and have understand that 45dB's @ 80hz is NOT loud! rolleyes.gif

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my career/day job, as a Senior Software Engineer for a subdivision of the Department of Energy that I do not want to ever reference by name. wink.gif But let's just say, their systems are far more complex and granular in detail than a theater-room construct.
Lucky! The only person I know who works for the DoE is former marine recon and carries nice weapons as his day job. Despite being currently enlisted, I'd rather be in your shoes than in his...except coding is not my strength - BSEE, not CS major. Good luck on the build, and straightening that rats nest of wiring!

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