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DOES ANYBODY HAVE A Sketchup or 3DS or the like 3D model of these speakers I can dump into my design software for room planning?

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DOES ANYBODY HAVE A Sketchup or 3DS or the like 3D model of these speakers I can dump into my design software for room planning?

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I don't have any files but I see you are from Denton and I live on the North side of Fort Worth, if you would like a listen to the 1099's I have 3.
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Baffle surgery?

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Originally my intention was someone could build this any which way: WTMW, TMWW, TMW, TM, and horizontally. But with baffles, it's hard to make that many. I think it would be wise to choose the most popular/common baffle and let people reconfigure it as they will, or gauge interest and make more baffles if warranted. Someone could take the WTMW baffle and cut off the top woofer to get them the tux10-96 TMW version pretty easily. Saves $80 and 12" height. But then flat pack boxes add another dimension of complexity.
I've been trying to figure out ways that I could get the Tux 1099 to work in my room. After re-reading the thread, I've pretty much figured that the one way I can get it to work is to go with a TMMWW layout (deja vu), something like this (hacked up version of Erich's baffle drawing from post#320):



My question is whether cutting up one of Erich's baffles to do this would be workable or not. Good idea? Bad idea?
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DOES ANYBODY HAVE A Sketchup or 3DS or the like 3D model of these speakers I can dump into my design software for room planning?

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Pm me your email and I will send you the sketchup file.
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Spotts29, that would work fine if you're capable of making precise cuts. And you'll have to do a fair bit of filling.
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Spotts29, that would work fine if you're capable of making precise cuts. And you'll have to do a fair bit of filling.
Yep, obviously great care on the cuts, and likewise with stitching them back together... Any negative impact on SQ?

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Tux,
Can you or someone else start a thread with just the XO for 1099. Maybe call it "assembling 1099 xo". I see a few people having problems and I know dtsdig and others have pics but it would be nice to have a separate thread just for XO. As these speakers get more and more popular (cuz there that good) the questions will only increase.

A separate thread with good first post is easy to direct people too. It would be easier for you to see most of the xo questions in one thread. I know the main 1099 thread has tonnes of info but it's a huge thread now. Right now there is a dozen 1099 build threads with xo questions coming from half of them.

Just trying to make it easier. Don't want people missing out on speaker cuz there afraid to tackle XO.
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If anyone wants to gather up all the 'good' info and start posting it in the next posts, I'll get it listed on the site and maybe Tux can just add it to the first post in this thread.

I wouldn't mind putting links on the site for every build too. That might help.

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Spotts, I figure the vertical arrangement of woofers was better as WTMW, but couldn't really hear a difference. It was more a theoretical one. As by the book as I can be at times, I also always put placement/fit/aesthetics high on the list of requirements. People have constraint and so do you. Do what it takes to make the speaker work how you need. Doing a TMWW will be fine.

Edit to add. I did find with the TMWW the woofer down near the floor got a bit or floor boost in the bass. So that's nice. But the WTMW kills ceiling reflections better. So its a trade off.
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Donny, that could be done I suppose. Not sure what I'd put in it. I could put some better info on the first page if that helps. I did some cheesy XO videos a while ago. You probably saw them. I'm not that good at this kind of stuff though.

ETA, maybe if it was more general. Like "XO assembly FAQ thread" where people could ask questions about assembling any XO.
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Donny, that could be done I suppose. Not sure what I'd put in it. I could put some better info on the first page if that helps. I did some cheesy XO videos a while ago. You probably saw them. I'm not that good at this kind of stuff though.

ETA, maybe if it was more general. Like "XO assembly FAQ thread" where people could ask questions about assembling any XO.
It's not creating new stuff, just putting good stuff already there. When I get my completed xo from you I will take good pics and do that fancy smancy drawings. I need one for myself when I do the second and third
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I had a chance to listen to these guys (albeit briefly) in my theater last Saturday. In short, I thought they were excellent and look forward to listening to Matt's @mbyrnes pair again sometime very soon. Classic SEOS smoothness, excellent dynamics, and can obviously take some serious power. Tux deserves credit for a very well executed design and I just wanted to pop in hear to say great job, man!
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Speaking of power - I don't need to invest in an amp for the 1099s or, say, the Tempests do I?
Is the output of my Yamaha RX-A2000 (rated 130w) adequate for these speakers? I can't decide between the 1099s and the Tempests.
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An AVR should be more than enough power. At 1W the 1099 will play at 99db. I drive mine with an SC-71 and it is great.
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Is the common census that the Volt's are the go to surrounds to match up with the 1099's or are there other options?


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Is the common census that the Volt's are the go to surrounds to match up with the 1099's or are there other options?
Not necessarily census, just seems to be a popular and cost effective option; for myself included.
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Tux,
Can you or someone else start a thread with just the XO for 1099. Maybe call it "assembling 1099 xo". I see a few people having problems and I know dtsdig and others have pics but it would be nice to have a separate thread just for XO. As these speakers get more and more popular (cuz there that good) the questions will only increase.

A separate thread with good first post is easy to direct people too. It would be easier for you to see most of the xo questions in one thread. I know the main 1099 thread has tonnes of info but it's a huge thread now. Right now there is a dozen 1099 build threads with xo questions coming from half of them.

Just trying to make it easier. Don't want people missing out on speaker cuz there afraid to tackle XO.
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If anyone wants to gather up all the 'good' info and start posting it in the next posts, I'll get it listed on the site and maybe Tux can just add it to the first post in this thread.

I wouldn't mind putting links on the site for every build too. That might help.
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Donny, that could be done I suppose. Not sure what I'd put in it. I could put some better info on the first page if that helps. I did some cheesy XO videos a while ago. You probably saw them. I'm not that good at this kind of stuff though.

ETA, maybe if it was more general. Like "XO assembly FAQ thread" where people could ask questions about assembling any XO.
Robert Jones II is doing great things here:
https://www.avsforum.com/forum/155-di...ve-1099-a.html
I think this is about the most clear set of "instructions" yet!
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I like the idea of using the Volt's. Earlier in the thread Tux recommended possibly using the Fusion 10's. But they are huge for surrounds. I am currently using Fusion 8's and they are big.

I've always struggled with putting large speakers in for surrounds (in a smaller room) with that amount of sound meant for them.
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The Volt 10s are a good option because (no particular order):

1. Very effective size.
2. The woofer is based on the delta 10 woofer used in the 1099.
3. Coaxial design has many advantages in surround use.
4. Very cost effective.

If you aren't as $ or space limited the the Fusion 10 will be the most similar, but will be more placement picky as well.
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I am thinking that I will end up with 1099's LCR (on their way), Volt 10's for surround, and Fusion 10 for front heights. How does this sound, Tux?
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I'm a tad unfamiliar with the requirements of a front height speaker. It may be worthwhile just doing the Volt 10s for those also. The LCR certainly uses the most power and so the 1099 is a good choice in those locations. That doesn't mean the Fusion 10 would be a bad choice, just unsure if the fit of the smaller Volt would be a better match
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Is there anything in the works or planning stage for a surround match for the 1099's?
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Yes, the Fusion 10 and Volt 10 are the two I recommend most. The differences are described above; the Fusion 10 is designed by me and uses the same Waveguide, CD, and woofer. The Volt 10 is a little more $, size, and placement friendly. Both are good choices. If you have the $ and space and want the ideal surround match, it would be the Fusion 10.

Note, I've never heard the Volt 10 so I'm just saying that based on the specs and what I know about coaxials. If it's a junk speaker I wouldn't know. You can ask others about that. By all accounts they sound great.
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Erich you should put this on website for 1099 . Great job rj2
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nice work donny!

you just keep racking up the points / votes for forum mvp.

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nice work donny!

you just keep racking up the points / votes for forum mvp.

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Not mine. It's Robert Jones 2. Just reposted it for Erich to hopefully put it on his site.

You finished that 4th sub yet ?
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fourth sub if finished, and bumping nicely. On Thursday, I'm gonna take some pics and post up a quick build thread to share it / help out anyone else who might want to do a coffee table design.

I gotta tell you Donny......i think it came out pretty nice. Every time i walk through the home theater room I look and it and think to myself...."damn, she turned out sexy" : )
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fourth sub if finished, and bumping nicely. On Thursday, I'm gonna take some pics and post up a quick build thread to share it / help out anyone else who might want to do a coffee table design.

I gotta tell you Donny......i think it came out pretty nice. Every time i walk through the home theater room I look and it and think to myself...."damn, she turned out sexy" : )
So when you jumping on 1099 train ? The caboose is getting full
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Im going to have an AT screen in my theater, would 3 vertical 1099's be ideal or stick with horizontal center?
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If going behind an AT screen, stick to 3 of the same, all vertical.
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