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Even the speaker stands are just killer!
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I finally finished my Micro Marty...and it passed inspection! My wife is super happy with how it turned out and how it blends right into the room. This was an adventure for me since I am a woodworking noob (don't look too closely at the stain job...), but I had a total blast doing it. The goal was to match (more or less) some existing furniture which have this antique chest sort of look. My approach was a down-firing cube with a 15" Dayton 390HO running bridged from an iNuke 3000dsp.
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You are way too kind, @manuetdeo @eng-399 and @NWCgrad ! But, thanks!
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You are way too kind, @manuetdeo @eng-399 and @NWCgrad ! But, thanks!

Every time I see one of these show and tell threads, I think PassingInterest's name should be EnduringInterest.


Magnificent work.
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@PassingInterest , do you have a build thread for these? Love the finish and veneer and would like to get more info. Great work🏼

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@ambesolman - If you mean the small 2-ways, the build thread is here.
@LitoGeorge - Thank you for the kind words!
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Pics, or you bought it.
Ha! Fair enough. I put together a build thread of my little adventure. Maybe someone will find it helpful.

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PI's builds could be their own thread titled " What we aspire to be"!
Yep.
Truly awesome builds that rival the best $ has to offer in appearance.
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Yes, truly inspirational, something to aim for @PassingInterest .....if this is a passing interest for you I can only wonder when you're absorbed with something
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Well, okay. Here are a few shots...........














Lastly, the Bunker Buster subwoofer is a work in progress.







I hope that's not too many pictures.

If they sound as good as they look they must be incredible any of them for sale? I love the speakers and the stands!
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If they sound as good as they look they must be incredible any of them for sale? I love the speakers and the stands!
I do have some that I don't know what to do with. Shipping would probably suck, though.
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Hi, think i will have my first try for a DIY subwoofer in this cabinet thats a part of a computer desk.
Space is +/- 36W x 34H x 60D (centimeter)

I want to use a Sinuslive SL-W330, a 30cm woofer with a Behringer 500 amp to drive it.
Sinuslive is a car audio company and this woofer is also "car based"......
Its at the moment very cheap as its no longer a stock item from Sinuslive and is sold for just 99,00 euro inclouding shipment.

I can mount the woofer in the door, seal it and will use demping material inside.
I can use the Behringer 500 in Bridge Mono mode and get 375 watt RMS, enough to get the best out off the woofer.
I hope to start the "build" soon.........
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Hi, think i will have my first try for a DIY subwoofer in this cabinet thats a part of a computer desk.
Space is +/- 36W x 34H x 60D (centimeter)

I want to use a Sinuslive SL-W330, a 30cm woofer with a Behringer 500 amp to drive it.
Sinuslive is a car audio company and this woofer is also "car based"......
Its at the moment very cheap as its no longer a stock item from Sinuslive and is sold for just 99,00 euro inclouding shipment.

I can mount the woofer in the door, seal it and will use demping material inside.
I can use the Behringer 500 in Bridge Mono mode and get 375 watt RMS, enough to get the best out off the woofer.
I hope to start the "build" soon.........
Make sure you seal all of the joints inside that cabinet. Any air leaks will will result in greatly reduced performance. Also, you will want to add additional bracing in all directions to help reduce the cabinet panels vibrating and resonating.

Do you have the T/S parameters for that driver? Have you modeled it in that size enclosure to see how it performs?

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Well, its going to be different.


Did a SPL test where the cabinet is, and dB's are way low :-(
As i do not have a sub at the moment i did this.
I placed my Jamo C109 front speaker in the middle of the MLP and let it play some frequency test tones, 50, 45, 40, 35, 30, 25 and 20 Hz.
I get a differents between 10 and 15 dB (lower) on the cabinet spot compared with the best spot, 2.5 meter right behinde the MLP in the middle of the back wall ! (i have a L shaped room)
On some tones differents is bigger, on others smaller, but allways (far) lower.


So think the best option is get a sub i like and put it behinde me on the backwall.......
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As mentioned i can buy a sub but still like the idea to build one myself.
It will be a sealed box and when i look at sealed subs with a 12 inch woofer, all are about the same size, 38x38x38 cm.
Would it be a big problem if i use a bigger box ?
I can use a wooden table and make the sub between the legs of the table.
Size of the box will go up to +/- 44x44x38
Will this be better or just as good as the most used 38x38x38 ?
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As mentioned i can buy a sub but still like the idea to build one myself.
It will be a sealed box and when i look at sealed subs with a 12 inch woofer, all are about the same size, 38x38x38 cm.
Would it be a big problem if i use a bigger box ?
I can use a wooden table and make the sub between the legs of the table.
Size of the box will go up to +/- 44x44x38
Will this be better or just as good as the most used 38x38x38 ?
It all depends on the sub's T/S parameters. Some model better in small boxes, other large boxes... You will probably get more advice if you start a new thread about the topic.

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It all depends on the sub's T/S parameters. Some model better in small boxes, other large boxes... You will probably get more advice if you start a new thread about the topic.

Problem is i can not find any T/S parameters of the woofer, a Sinuslive SL-W330.


Found them but it makes no sense to me:
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Problem is i can not find any T/S parameters of the woofer, a Sinuslive SL-W330.
A lot of manufacturers do not advertise them for some reason... the best you can do is pick a reasonable size, measure the response, then decide if you want to try a bigger or smaller box depending on how the response looks. Might be a better idea to buy a proven driver with T/S parameters...

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Problem is i can not find any T/S parameters of the woofer, a Sinuslive SL-W330.


Found them but it makes no sense to me:
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The T/S parameters plugged into modeling software is what you need to do to make sense of them....this thread isn't the place, start one and ask for modeling help.
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Just did, thanks for the help.
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I wouldn't say mine is 'awesome' but it certainly gets WAF acceptance (I was even asked to make a similar one to hide a beer fridge in ). The rear 'table' sub goes mostly un-noticed sat next to the matching oak sideboard. The front one (just ahead of the cream sofa to the left of the room) is just a black box with an oak top, though it isn't too prominent in the room. It is turned to face the wall now and the AV gear is in a rack outside of the room too, which helps greatly in black out scenes when using my projector as there are no LEDs to shine on the screen now.

My OH doesn't mind about having speakers on show, but I prefer the room to look like there is no HT gear at all bar a TV. My aim next year is to hide all the speakers and subs bar the table sub, though there will be three other identical volume (but tall and shallow) subs to go with it.
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I wouldn't say mine is 'awesome'...
I would, they look great!
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I wouldn't say mine is 'awesome' but it certainly gets WAF acceptance (I was even asked to make a similar one to hide a beer fridge in ). The rear 'table' sub goes mostly un-noticed sat next to the matching oak sideboard. The front one (just ahead of the cream sofa to the left of the room) is just a black box with an oak top, though it isn't too prominent in the room. It is turned to face the wall now and the AV gear is in a rack outside of the room too, which helps greatly in black out scenes when using my projector as there are no LEDs to shine on the screen now.

My OH doesn't mind about having speakers on show, but I prefer the room to look like there is no HT gear at all bar a TV. My aim next year is to hide all the speakers and subs bar the table sub, though there will be three other identical volume (but tall and shallow) subs to go with it.

Nice.....
Did you make any calculations for box size or just took a size that fit and put the woofer in ?
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Thanks for the kind comments.

I did various calculations before having the MDF boxes built (there is a guy on eBay in the UK who will make the boxes up for little more than it would cost me to buy the MDF). I used WinISD for the calcs.

I also used REW room sim to work out the best locations for the subs (opposite diagonals front left and rear right) which nicely filled a null that I suffer from at the MLP around 40Hz. I get a great response with room gain (and some EQ in the iNuke 6000DSP) so I can run flat down to 10Hz at 110dB.

Since I tend to listen about -10dB down from reference that gives me enough headroom, though if I add another pair of FiQ 15 and another iNuke 6000DSP then that will give an even better pre eq response in the room and of course extra headroom again. I'm now using a miniDSP DDRC-88A for Dirac live room eq and the way it integrates these subs with my MK MP150 series speakers is making me wonder if I need to bother with the extra subs...but I probably will anyway. Having them all 'invisible' in the room makes the surprise for guests even more fun.
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After seeing high prices for subs in the size i want, i will do do a DIY sub and started the build.
When i am done i will post pics.

To get the "best" spot for the sub i moved my fronts around (30Hz -3 dB) and used an SPL meter in the MLP to see what spot gave me the most SPL on subwoofer frequencies test tones.
Its a bit difficult as i did 6 messurement in each spot, 45-40-35-30-24 and 20 Hz.
In one corner the 40 numbers will peak more, in the other corner or spot the 30 numbers will do higher SPL.
So i took the spot that did the best overall, and that is behinde the MPL in the middle of the back wall.
The sub will be a table so the wife is also happy......

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Ok, here my "solution" to get (keep) the wife happy

This is a Lack table from IKEA (just 4,99 euro !!!!!!) and used the legs as main support for the case.
I have the volume up to 74 liter, exact what the T/S info advices for the woofer.
Sub Amp is a Behringer A500 in mono mode (375 watt RMS) and the woofer is a Sinuslive SL-W330, a 320mm "car audio" woofer that can handle 500 watt RMS on 8 Ohm and 92 dB.
All in cost (amp new, woofer new): 350,00 euro !
Wife happy, i happy........
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Wow, that looks great! That is definitely a different way of going about the construction. Did it all work out with the angle brackets? Were you able to use woodglue as well?

I like the design a lot.
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Wow, that looks great! That is definitely a different way of going about the construction. Did it all work out with the angle brackets? Were you able to use woodglue as well?

I like the design a lot.
I used metal brackets and constuction sealant to fix the wood bracing.
All the sides are screwed and also applied acrylic sealant to get all air thight.
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