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Very acute observation. The HS-24 mkII will only be around $75 more than the current model. The motor costs more and it is a little heavier so it will cost a little more to ship but no big price increase.
The current version and mk2 are already a steal at their prices.
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I currently have 3 Danley DTS-10 which are modded with the LMSR-12. If I were to do 4 BHS-24 in a sealed say 8 cubic ft enclosure what can I expect? Is a crest pro 9200 which has 2200 w @ 4 ohm enough to power one per each channel?
Even in 8 ft^3 sealed the F3 is right at 35 Hz so LFE should not be a problem as the Qtc alignment is barely over a 0.80. The neat thing about the BHS is its inductive performance so the upper end is pretty brutal with its easy midbass integration and performance. You'll have people going "that sound is coming from those big 24's"?

2200 watts is plenty of power. Just because they are rated for 4,000 watts doesn't mean that you MUST send it that much power.
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I currently have 3 Danley DTS-10 which are modded with the LMSR-12. If I were to do 4 BHS-24 in a sealed say 8 cubic ft enclosure what can I expect? Is a crest pro 9200 which has 2200 w @ 4 ohm enough to power one per each channel?
if you choose BHS-24, it's better to feed them 4000W RMS to fully exploit its full potential otherwise HS-24 is more economical choice with 2200W power each
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The BHS will work better in 8cuft enclosures than the HS24.
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I am more of a one and done type of guy so if I make this move it will be the BHS model.
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The BHS will work better in 8cuft enclosures than the HS24.


Why is that?

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Why is that?
I believe Scott is referring to the Qtc alignment between the two drivers in an 8 ft^3 sealed box.
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Ben, your second driver being put together is pictured on the far left. Shouldn't be but a few more business days and I'll have both of your HS-24 mkII's built and tested and ready to be shipped.

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Ben, your second driver being put together is pictured on the far left. Shouldn't be but a few more business days and I'll have both of your HS-24 mkII's built and tested and ready to be shipped.
Any excursion vids of the BHS out in the wild?
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I believe Scott is referring to the Qtc alignment between the two drivers in an 8 ft^3 sealed box.
Yes. Correct.

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Any excursion vids of the BHS out in the wild?
I've got a video of of Nick's friends' van loaded with two BHS24's and that roof is moving pretty good. No shots of the drivers though.
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Not an action shot, but same Tahoe.








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I've got a video of of Nick's friends' van loaded with two BHS24's and that roof is moving pretty good. No shots of the drivers though.
What you've been holding out on posting it for a rainy day or something?

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Been too lazy to upload it to YT. I figured Sterling (sp?) has better videos of his system by now. Guy probably has four of these things now.
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Taming the HS-24

No doubt, probably towing the other two

Scott, what's your YouTube channel?

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Any excursion vids of the BHS out in the wild?
Why yes, yes I do.

Here is a video I took of a customers BHS-24 that is being used in a 20 ft^3 ported enclosure for home music and theater:

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I also have a video of Baniels' HS-24 mkII on the test bench:

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Why yes, yes I do.

Here is a video I took of a customers BHS-24 that is being used in a 20 ft^3 ported enclosure for home music and theater:

I also have a video of Baniels' HS-24 mkII on the test bench:
Nice! Looks fast, articulate and concrete shattering...
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Nice! Looks fast, articulate and concrete shattering...
You need two of the BHS's in your vehicle in Qatar! Think of the impact, be seen, standout and make waves. Just like the Embassy teaches us.
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Ok Ben, your second driver is all buttoned up. I'll test it tomorrow to allow the glues to dry overnight. Until tomorrow comes around here are two pictures of your second driver:



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Wow. Those are so badass.


No doubt!


You are going to be so happy!


I'm especially interested in your thoughts/impression of these beauties!

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I'm happy to report that, just in time for Halloween, I have two enormous monsters in my basement.

I expected them this week, but they were delivered late last Friday. I trucked them home yesterday. The packaging was phenomenal. Way to go, Nick. The drivers were securely bolted to the top plywood, and not shown was a top cap of plywood with edges that let it float above the surround.

I know this will be disappointing, but the "wave shell" is out of the plans. I don't have the time or material to complete that, and with the drivers now in hand I am very motivated to bring them to life. I'm exploring a few options for the final finish.










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Dude, you are going to have soooo much fun with those babies!


Careful though, Nick should send those with warning labels - you should see what my pair did to my drywall!
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Was there a delay getting them shipped out? Seems like it took a while to get them delivered.


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No delay... I had to put the project on hold for a (long) while.

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I picture surfed the whole thread, whats powering these beasts
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I'll be amp-limited with an iNuke NU6000 DSP for the time being.

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3k watts per channel, that'll get you started

...... and great job documenting the build, envy around every corner !

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From the bench tests I've seen it'll be closer to 1.8kwpc, which is still adequate.

Thank you. The build thread will be starting from again scratch soon. I'm going to redesign and build some 8ft^3 cabinets. The parameters of the new HS24's need less volume for a .7-.8 QTC. The actual math is over my head, but these magnets are much bigger than the original design. I'm not sure what else has changed.

The decision to rebuild is made easier by the mold that has taken over the cabinets. The external mold would be easy to deal with, but I can see it on the inside, where access is very limited. They spent two summers in my humid Iowa garage.

A friend of mine will re-purpose the cabinets so the effort isn't wasted. The smaller cabinets will certainly integrate into our living room better. Planning to use all baltic birch this time, with some bamboo ply on the front and top to make them pretty. I'll share the design once complete.

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From the bench tests I've seen it'll be closer to 1.8kwpc, which is still adequate.

Thank you. The build thread will be starting from again scratch soon. I'm going to redesign and build some 8ft^3 cabinets. The parameters of the new HS24's need less volume for a .7-.8 QTC. The actual math is over my head, but these magnets are much bigger than the original design. I'm not sure what else has changed.

The decision to rebuild is made easier by the mold that has taken over the cabinets. The external mold would be easy to deal with, but I can see it on the inside, where access is very limited. They spent two summers in my humid Iowa garage.

A friend of mine will re-purpose the cabinets so the effort isn't wasted. The smaller cabinets will certainly integrate into our living room better. Planning to use all baltic birch this time, with some bamboo ply on the front and top to make them pretty. I'll share the design once complete.
more like 1200w with both channels running. You should get an SP2-8000 and run each one with the vcs in parallel.
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I'll put that on my wish list. Good suggestion, but it's outside the budget at this point.

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