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post #61 of 95 Old 03-28-2015, 08:15 AM
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The Fusion-8 does have inverted polarity on the compression driver. So if you built your own crossover, then reverse the polarity when wiring it up.

But if you bought the assembled crossovers they have the inverted polarity already built into the kit, so just wire up black to negative and red to positive like any other speaker.
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Ok! Just to make sure I understand you correctly, when using the pcb's you provided I have to invert the polarity. Thanks for replying!
ippodrome: if I read Erich's post correctly, and you have the PCB's ordered from DIYSG, you DO NOT have to invert the polarity because it is already done with the wiring on the crossover boards. If you decided to make your own crossovers, you would need to make sure that you essentially wire the black-to-red and red-to-black to reverse the polarity since the speaker terminals are opposite from normal configuration.
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If you have the preassembled crossover or you bought the printed board, then you would just wire it up like any other speaker you have.

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Super! Now I'm with you! Will wire them up tonight!
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Erich H, Will the quad 4 be back in stock or are you phasing this model out?

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Erich H, Will the quad 4 be back in stock or are you phasing this model out?
I'll be awaiting an answer too.
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Erich H, Will the quad 4 be back in stock or are you phasing this model out?
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I'll be awaiting an answer too.
Pretty sure it was the tweeter he was waiting for...

http://www.diysoundgroup.com/compres...s/dna-150.html


Either way, it sounds like a lot of people (you guys included) are interested in the fusion 4 quad speaker. The tweeter (denovo 150), for its size and price, is a gem. They are in the Karma 8's I built and shine compared to others I've heard

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So, now i have been using my Fusion 8's for a good while in my temporary room...
I like the way they sound very much but am missing midbass thump/chest slam in combination with my microcubes.

That is for sure a matter of settings, I'm not having luck getting them integrated.
And my microcubes probably needs to have some attention since they don't sound the way I assume they are supposed to.
(But that's another thread and I've gotten some input and tips in that matter.)

I'm using a marantz SR6004 which I believe is adequate for the task. XO is at 100hz now, tried 80 and 120 but no difference...
The Fusions are about 4" from front wall and L/R are almost in corners due to my non AT-screen.
The room is closed and measures W9 1/2' x L14 1/2' x H8'

Are there anyone with experience from these speaker with some input to my situation?

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I've been thinking about using the diysg for a bit.

For the LCR I will be using the 1299.

My questions are more for the remaining channels:
1. For surrounds , I am thinking either 4x HTM12 or 4x VOLT12
2. For Atmos I am thinking either 4xVOLT 12 or 4x VOLT10.

The above speakers are rated 10W up to 400/500W.

My questions related to the amps:

1. Is it preferable to use 4x "pro" amp like QSC GXD4 400W/channel, 2 channel (total amount about $2000

2. Or to use consumer class a/b amp like emotiva eight-0-4
(8 channel) @65watt/channel $1400

2. Or differentiating power to atmos and surround: emotiva eight-4-2s (eight channel with 4 channels @ 300W + 4 channels @ 65W ) $1800

3. Or (considering diysg speaker sensitivity) use low end emotiva basx series :
4pcs x A100(50W/2ch) $230x4=$920 OR
4pcs x A300 (150W/2ch) $400x4=$1600 OR
1pcs x Multizone (30w/8ch) $500x1 =$500

4. Also, I'd like to ask if anyone is using the HTM / VOLT and QSC / Emotiva DR / BasX combination. Are you experiencing problems ? Hiss ?

Thank you for your feedback
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This thread makes me think very impure thoughts.
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I've been thinking about using the diysg for a bit.

For the LCR I will be using the 1299.

My questions are more for the remaining channels:
1. For surrounds , I am thinking either 4x HTM12 or 4x VOLT12
2. For Atmos I am thinking either 4xVOLT 12 or 4x VOLT10.

The above speakers are rated 10W up to 400/500W.

My questions related to the amps:

1. Is it preferable to use 4x "pro" amp like QSC GXD4 400W/channel, 2 channel (total amount about $2000

2. Or to use consumer class a/b amp like emotiva eight-0-4
(8 channel) @65watt/channel $1400

2. Or differentiating power to atmos and surround: emotiva eight-4-2s (eight channel with 4 channels @ 300W + 4 channels @ 65W ) $1800

3. Or (considering diysg speaker sensitivity) use low end emotiva basx series :
4pcs x A100(50W/2ch) $230x4=$920 OR
4pcs x A300 (150W/2ch) $400x4=$1600 OR
1pcs x Multizone (30w/8ch) $500x1 =$500

4. Also, I'd like to ask if anyone is using the HTM / VOLT and QSC / Emotiva DR / BasX combination. Are you experiencing problems ? Hiss ?

Thank you for your feedback
I run a 5 channel system with 899 LCR and volt 6 surrounds. My Yamaha AVR was 'good enough', but adding an Outlaw 5000 power amp made the whole system sound better. Make sure the AVR has pre-amp outs.
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My questions are more for the remaining channels:
1. For surrounds , I am thinking either 4x HTM12 or 4x VOLT12
Unless you are privy to some inside information, there are no Volt 12s.
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Volt 12's or Volt 15's would be so sweet.
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I thought i heard that they were working on some neo 10", 12", and 15" coaxial speakers. Kinda like a Volt on steroids. Sounds cool to me.
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Typo... sorry
I meant volt 10
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@Erich H ,

I've been doing some research on the 1099's and was wondering if you might be able to tell me what the height of the waveguide is from the bottom of the cabinet so that I will know how tall to build stands for them.


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The middle of the waveguide is about 21" up from the bottom of the enclosure.

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The middle of the waveguide is about 21" up from the bottom of the enclosure.
Thank you for the info Erich.

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Are the subwoofer flat packs going to be available again in the future? All show out of stock
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Is this where we can get the real time updates on the new DIYSG speakers that are coming out? I hope the site gets to where Eric wants it and he is able to start selling the 1099's again!
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while awaiting Erich's ever ongoing "re-organizing"

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after a demo of my HTM6's at the LAHTG
in a well done dedicated space of about <2K ft3 as compared to my mere 900 ,
i walked away knowing to apply some better TLC for my own setup of them
tho the room can do 5.2.4, at about 10 x 10, not a lot of breathing room for all those speakers at the same time,

DSU with only Fh's , still not as clear as just stereo,( but the ATMOS demo discs are a treat)
but the 6's can do very very well for imaging ,clarity, detail , immersiveness and beyond- source dependent

for the time being I've opted to use Neo:X .
Canclled out the SS and any heights
with only LCR, the CC being a F6 CC from awhile back.

Last fall I had to wait several weeks wrt getting the 6's back in stock

but doing the homework for choosing your setup , from DIYSG, is that's the case,
well worth the wait.

on a side note,
I also took my F15's which were also run , no subs. they got good room gain, fantastic imaging, to be very close to acceptable as full range.
So, I asked mtg90 about the HTM12's as they use the 15" horn and a way to perhaps lower the tuning for stereo full range duty, no baffle mod required.
his reply:

If the HTM-12 was built as 18"w x 25"h x 18"d it will give an F3 in the upper 40's and in room should give decent extension and output down to the low 40's upper 30's. Ports for this modification do not need to be changed from the 3" stock length.

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I built some 1299s last summer. Ended up doing a ported design. Have yet to veneer them. But I love the speakers. Room needs some work, but it’s my living room and it’s totally open, so it tends to suck quite a bit of bass out. I plan on building a couple subs... movies are fantastic with these, most importantly. Very clear speech, and very dynamic.

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I'm looking for something the size of the Fusion 8 towers that used to be available. Does diysg have anything similar to the size of those anymore?

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I'm looking for something the size of the Fusion 8 towers that used to be available. Does diysg have anything similar to the size of those anymore?
I think the Cobalt mtm could be made into a tower.
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I think there are so many possibilities on the table for DIYSG. It will be VERY interesting to see what Eric releases here in the very near future. I, personally, am dying to see what he comes up with!!
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After Months of research and some waiting I ordered 3 HT8's and 2 Volt6's to go with the Mini Marty I'm wrapping up. Can't wait to finish it all, what a rabbit hole. This all started with me deciding to cobble together some surround sound speakers for my living room. I'll put together a build thread at some point.
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After Months of research and some waiting I ordered 3 HT8's and 2 Volt6's to go with the Mini Marty I'm wrapping up. Can't wait to finish it all, what a rabbit hole. This all started with me deciding to cobble together some surround sound speakers for my living room. I'll put together a build thread at some point.
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I see that the HT-6s have been officially listed on the DIYSG site. No price listed yet, but very happy to see them there. Had originally planned to go with HT-12s up front with Volt 6 surrounds, but will definitely go with the HT-6 now. Theoretically, I could go with HT-8s for the surrounds, but the smaller footprint of the 6s have me leaning that direction.
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i wonder how the off axis graphs for the HT6's look

Matt does very thorough work before he puts his name on a speaker (i think he's the designer)

FTR my HTM6's as LR mains are easy listening.

and now, you've made me want to get a pair for good low profile surrounds, in a narrow room

thanks a lot. . .
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you've made me want to get a pair for good low profile surrounds, in a narrow room

thanks a lot. . .
I really like my HTM 6's for side surrounds.

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^

at a recent speaker shoot out, the HTM6's about 10 feet apart, toed in, and I think on an amp @ 200 wpc (iirc) and listening distance of 8ish, row, and then the second row

due to some of the speakers involved and some of the attendees , I don't think naming names is wise.
there are reputations and industry connections I have no business talking about. the big boys will talk amongst themselves . .

after an equitable test,
folks wanted to go into extra innings,
as at about < $500 as a flatpack kit, the ROI for quality DIY made itself clear, detailed, BIG, and a better sweet spot,

are they $1K + gems as normal scuttelbutt DIY estimates of worth might brag about

in my small room, as surrounds they'd be like only 5 feet or less . . . seems like a waste . .

but I wold consider a set of V6's II. ported

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