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What was the track we kept listening to? I need me a copy to test at my place so I can decide how bad my in walls really are :-)
What do you mean by "how bad my walls are" ?

Room treatments ?
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What do you mean by "how bad my walls are" ?

Room treatments ?
My monoprice 3-way in-wall speakers.

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After having listened to some really awesome speakers, I'd be good to play the same material on my own set up is what I was trying to say.
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Oh.. lmao. yeah probably you are right. I never heard them. They any good?

I need a few pair of in walls for my remodel. I was looking at those.
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Thanks for the help Guygasm! JCJetta helped me bring it out so thank to him too.

It seems the TL passed the leather chair shaking test.....
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Things I'm going to try and have for the next GTG meet or at least my wish list for my room....... Butt kickers in the seats with an new amp..... maybe 2 more 18's for nearfield bass in sealed boxes (going to read up on thisif it possible) I have to finish the ceiling with that mural....going to have bass traps by my sub boxes as we talked about and room treatment up on the walls. I'm going to figure out rew once and for all and try something for my surround sound to get them dialed in even better. I have lots of reading to do but I don't mind its fun trying to figure this stuff out and avs helps!
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Things I'm going to try and have for the next GTG meet or at least my wish list for my room....... Butt kickers in the seats with an new amp..... maybe 2 more 18's for nearfield bass in sealed boxes (going to read up on thisif it possible) I have to finish the ceiling with that mural....going to have bass traps by my sub boxes as we talked about and room treatment up on the walls. I'm going to figure out rew once and for all and try something for my surround sound to get them dialed in even better. I have lots of reading to do but I don't mind its fun trying to figure this stuff out and avs helps!
Honestly I think that was the one thing I would have liked to have seen. If you went with some buttkickers or nearfields, it would "perfect" the listening experience in there. I think you would be very happy with the additional tactile feel.


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Honestly I think that was the one thing I would have liked to have seen. If you went with some buttkickers or nearfields, it would "perfect" the listening experience in there. I think you would be very happy with the additional tactile feel.


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What would you reccommend for the butt kickers I've seen parts express have the aura one for a good price but I have also heard they don't do much... Parts express also had I think the name was Clark I'm probably wrong but they were on sale for 99 each. I was thinking maybe getting 4 to start off with and work my way up. Also maybe inuke 1000 to power them. What do you think I should go with?
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I would look at the buttkicker mini's before the Clark's. I had had all 3 (Aura's, Clark's and Buttkickers) and there is a noticeable jump between the buttkickers and the others. John at Full Compass will take care of you on the buttkickers too.

I have the perfect amp to run those pretty much brand new in the box. It is a Crown XLS 1500. PM me if you are interested.
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Oh.. lmao. yeah probably you are right. I never heard them. They any good?

I need a few pair of in walls for my remodel. I was looking at those.
They are OK, can run up to reference with no problem.
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It might just be me, but I am purposefully staying away from butt kickers. I know they are the top end, but I'm strongly concerned that they are overkill. I would think going with a lesser option but more even distribution and make it complement the sound rather than draw away from the sound. Make it more seamless, I think with a Buttkicker it is easier to over do it.

Maybe we could poke some people and have them send out some units we could demo?

I should note it is on my to do list to add later this year as I am in an apartment right now, if we could get some demo units out that would be sweet!
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They are OK, can run up to reference with no problem.
Hey corradizo, which center channel are you using with your monoprice 8" three-way in-walls? Did you just use three 6816s for L/C/R or did you get one of the centers (4881)? I'm likely going to be doing those in my basement -- I have 2- and 4-year-olds so my space needs to be kid-proofed and can't really be a dedicated theater -- and I'm trying to decide which center to use. If I go w/ a 6816 for identical L/C/R, I'll need to turn it sideways, which I have a feeling is going to bother me.
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I used some cheap bass shakers on the seats in my previous theatre, and found they worked quite well, but had to limit them to 50hz or lower. If they were at around 80hz (working directly from the av amps crossover), I found they could sometimes be distracting because they were operating when there wasn't anything specifically that should be shaking the seats.

I was using a Paradign X30 box for a Servo 15 that I had lying around, but you can pick up 50hz in-line filters really cheap that are said to work OK.

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They need a low pass filter and delay at a minimum. Otherwise your seat will vibrate at too high of frequencies and they will start vibrating before the sound from your subs hits your ears.
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I received so much tactile feedback in my gut, pantlegs, and face that I cannot possibly fathom the need for additional transducers in your seats, Mike. Four 18's tuned to 16Hz kinda provided that effect quite vigorously on their own.
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I received so much tactile feedback in my gut, pantlegs, and face that I cannot possibly fathom the need for additional transducers in your seats, Mike. Four 18's tuned to 16Hz kinda provided that effect quite vigorously on their own.

It did shake my pants and body when I was back of the room and front lol. I was thinking having these for when I have the family or friends are over and having the effect of the chair shaking when it's at -10 on the avr. I've never played it that loud before the GTG meet because I thought I was going to blow a sub or a speaker up. I guess I'm trying to tweak stuff in the room for some type of improvement. I think I'll start with bass traps and other wall treatments first. Those are cheap if made by me diy.
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I received so much tactile feedback in my gut, pantlegs, and face that I cannot possibly fathom the need for additional transducers in your seats, Mike. Four 18's tuned to 16Hz kinda provided that effect quite vigorously on their own.
I spent movie time in the 2nd row, and I will tell you that nearfield subs provide a totally different experience. Also, the tactile feel would be nice to have even at lower volumes. I doubt he'll be running at reference all the time.
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I doubt he'll be running at reference all the time.
You guys didn't epoxy the volume knob at reference?
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I use transducer for the purpose of playing things at lower volume. They still add a little bit at higher volume. If the FR is adjusted a certain way things won't seem as loud at Reference and you still get great tactile feel. This is tricky and takes lots of trial an error re-adjusting the gain structure of the system.

I was playing with the some of the clips that we used at the gtg today after tweaking the gain structure. I broke a vase but, I used some super glue to fix it. When the wife returns I will see how long before she noticed it and, then I will be in the doghouse.
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I use transducer for the purpose of playing things at lower volume. They still add a little bit at higher volume. If the FR is adjusted a certain way things won't seem as loud at Reference and you still get great tactile feel. This is tricky and takes lots of trial an error re-adjusting the gain structure of the system.

I was playing with the some of the clips that we used at the gtg today after tweaking the gain structure. I broke a vase but, I used some super glue to fix it. When the wife returns I will see how long before she noticed it and, then I will be in the doghouse.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uF9e...has_verified=1
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Lol great video... Watch out Derrick just don't place the vase with water on the dinner table or else your going to run into trouble from the wife as the video shows
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Pete are you talking about the drum song that @mtg90 was playing if that's the one I agree 100 percent that is a great way to demo speakers it's my number 1!!! Matt what was that song?
The Sheffield Lab Drum & Track Disc: Drum Improvisation 1


I wish I would have played it on the Fusion-15's, impact is similar to that felt with the DIY Synergy Horns.
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Guys my sincere apologies on the delay in posting the pictures, but i had to post process these a bit to set the accurate white balance and a bit of exposure settings as the pictures were taken in dark room.

Here are are a few pictures of the event, i am also posting a dropbox link containing 300+ pictures. Feel free to download them.














Matt the man the machine, the genius.


One of the best pairs at the GTG. The Synergy Horns.
















Matt the holyone.




Definitely the Bose killer






















The formidable last pair of speakers on the GTG sounded really good.


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@holyindian thanks sooo much for posting this!!! Pictures really turned out great!!!!!! Steak dinner on me next time we meet... I wish I would of wiped the bottom sub off with all the dust on it lol.
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I felt like the Synergy horns and Fusion 15s had a kind of shimmer or top end detail that the rest of the speakers didn't quite match except for maybe the QSC speakers. I'm not sure if it was because maybe they were played louder or if my ears were shot afterward, or maybe the treble is a tad hot on them. Anyway that Sheffield drum track has incredible dynamic range, a superb recording.
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I felt like the Synergy horns and Fusion 15s had a kind of shimmer or top end detail that the rest of the speakers didn't quite match except for maybe the QSC speakers. I'm not sure if it was because maybe they were played louder or if my ears were shot afterward, or maybe the treble is a tad hot on them. Anyway that Sheffield drum track has incredible dynamic range, a superb recording.

I would love to get my hands on the plans of those synergy horns! It would probably take me about a year to build them but they're so nice!!! I'm going to buy that Sheffield track if it's on iTunes! That was the best song to demo all of these.
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Here's the Dropbox link to over 300 pictures of the GTG
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Sconces finally were installed the next day down there and the well needed toilet sorry everyone who had to truck up the stairs to use washroom. The non level tv on the wall is next on the list to straighten out lol.
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