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Franks 1099 Build

My delivery has come and time to get things started.








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I doubt it I'm thinking around first week in November. Fingeres crossed
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@frankie2075 @HFGuy I already have one glued up. Its a race... lets see who finishes first. You ship out your XO's to Matt yet?

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@frankie2075 @HFGuy I already have one glued up. Its a race... lets see who finishes first. You ship out your XO's to Matt yet?
I got 2 glued but didn't put the baffles on because I believe I need to drill holes though each brace to pass the wires through. And i want to silicon everything then I need to attach the insulation. I shipped out the XOS to Matt they should be there Wednesday. I just hope I shipped all the parts and didn't leave any out. Stupid question but the panel that has the groves in it for the dividers that's the back and the the baffle is the one that's parallel to that? Pls tell me yes

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I got 2 glued but didn't put the baffles on because I believe I need to drill holes though each brace to pass the wires through. And i want to silicon everything then I need to attach the insulation. I shipped out the XOS to Matt they should be there Wednesday. I just hope I shipped all the parts and didn't leave any out. Stupid question but the panel that has the groves in it for the dividers that's the back and the the baffle is the one that's parallel to that? Pls tell me yes
There is really only one way they go together. The Back has all the cutouts for sides and mid inserts. The baffle or face of the speaker has the speaker holes. The recessed cuts goes out as the speaker sit flush in it.

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dry fit it all first so your sure
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one more to go!
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I use the 1" version of the stuff in my dual opposed subwoofer cabinets. I like that they already have an adhesive backing so you can just peel off the white paper and stick it on the cabinet walls after cutting them.


I'm not sure how well these may work for the 1099s. I've been wondering about using these myself for my own 1099 build. I'm being quite indecisive right now with damping material.
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Things are looking good! Have no worries about about Matt doing the crossover board he does great work and has a very professional work station layed out for doing these XO boards.
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Ahh! You guys are killing me with these super fast flat pack builds!

Looking good, Frankie!
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I use the 1" version of the stuff in my dual opposed subwoofer cabinets. I like that they already have an adhesive backing so you can just peel off the white paper and stick it on the cabinet walls after cutting them.


I'm not sure how well these may work for the 1099s. I've been wondering about using these myself for my own 1099 build. I'm being quite indecisive right now with damping material.
Yea that's the reason I bought these cause of the ease of use. I bought 5 sheets but I'm thinking I might need more. Just wondering if I need more or how much should I stuff the box.
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Ahh! You guys are killing me with these super fast flat pack builds!

Looking good, Frankie!
Haha it's a no brainier. I finished all 3 thank you sir! Got to silicon the inside tomorrow.
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Things are looking good! Have no worries about about Matt doing the crossover board he does great work and has a very professional work station layed out for doing these XO boards.
Yea I not worried. Just anxious. I'm sure he got it all down pat.
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How big should I drill the holes in the dividers?
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And I see there are gaskets that came with the speakers what are those for?
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Yea that's the reason I bought these cause of the ease of use. I bought 5 sheets but I'm thinking I might need more. Just wondering if I need more or how much should I stuff the box.
As far as I can tell, after reading around a lot and even seeing @tuxedocivic 's YouTube videos on stuffing, you probably won't need more than just lining the woofer cabinets with the stuff normally. By the sound of it, the mid/tweeter chamber apparently can benefit from the most stuffing as long as it's not right up against the midrange drivers.

He actually talks about that in this video:
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Also, here's a quote of when someone answered my questions about the materials to use between sealed/ported. I thought it may be helpful to go with the sealed portion you are looking for.

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2) Polyster fill you can get a huge bag at Wall-mart identical to the Parts Express
3)UltraTouch™ Denim Insulation I (I like this no scratchiness like fiberglass)

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3)Foam from Walley world look in the craft section or buy a foam mattress topper or look at (http://www.foamdistributing.com/)

I just spray painted the front of the foam with flat back on the side where the ports. A quick spray and you can't see it once the ports are put in.

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And I see there are gaskets that came with the speakers what are those for?
For the SEOS and midrange drivers. I see that most people recommend placing the gaskets on the drivers themselves, and not the MDF.
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For the SEOS and midrange drivers. I see that most people recommend placing the gaskets on the drivers themselves, and not the MDF.
I've always put the gaskets on the MDF.
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I've always put the gaskets on the MDF.
I guess either way, it's not like anyone's going to be removing and reinstalling the drivers often.
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I guess either way, it's not like anyone's going to be removing and reinstalling the drivers often.

hopefully not but you never know. I put the gaskets on the enclosure.
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I've always put the gaskets on the MDF.
what about the SEOS horn dose it go around that too?
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You should have 3 pieces included with each kit. They are for the waveguide and the mids.
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You should have 3 pieces included with each kit. They are for the waveguide and the mids.
Okay thanks!
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You should have 3 pieces included with each kit. They are for the waveguide and the mids.
It may go without saying, but I think Erich often cuts them at lengths that will work for the either the wave guide or the mids (so make sure you lay them out and figure out which piece is intended for which before you start to install them).

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How big should I drill the holes in the dividers?
Don't make the holes too small or you'll have a hard time getting enough sealant in there. I used a 1/4" hole for two 16 gauge wires and I still had to use my finger to push sealant into the hole from both sides and wiggle the wires around a bit.

Wow, you guys really fly with the flat packs!
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How big should I drill the holes in the dividers?
as big as your speaker wires, then fill with silicone.

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^^^^so good to hear this, lemon! I get the use of PL being used as an adhesive to bond parts together, but never understood why some value PL for an interior seal over a high-quality, pure silicone.
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^^^^so good to hear this, lemon! I get the use of PL being used as an adhesive to bond parts together, but never understood why some value PL for an interior seal over a high-quality, pure silicone.
PL doesnt shrink which I get and sure its great for gluing things together. We all tent to get over analytical with building stuff. A solution one would normally use gets second guest due to the over abundance of information. I do this myself all the time. I made plenty of speakers sealing the insides with silicone. If it can keep the water from coming in through the gaps in my windows in all types of weather. I am sure it can keep air from passing through a small hole

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Thanks guys for the answers to my questions. I'm going with silicon not PL I hate that stuff. It works great just to much of a mess for me. Is there any specific type of silicon that I should buy?
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