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post #961 of 969 Old 01-21-2017, 07:44 PM
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Ok, so it looks like the only "budget" 18's available are the Daytons....


Is it worth taking up an extra 8ft^3 to go with the Ultimax Drivers instead of the Reference? (4ft^3 vs 6ft^3 per driver?)


I have an Si HT18d2 and recently added an Ultimax. I use mine ported tuned to 18hz. The Si ht18 is an amazing driver for the price and I was going to wait for the re-release in 2017 but decided to go with the Ultimax. Two reasons I didn't wait and went with the Ultimax. First was availability (I didn't won't to wait any longer) but second and more importantly I saw that at least 2 Seaton sound subs use the Ultimax driver (or a modded version of it). Mr. Seaton's use of this driver is a very strong recommendation in my opinion.

I lived with my Si for over 2 years and loved it but as soon as I hooked up the Ultimax it was apparent this driver is in a whole different league. The sensitivity is a bit higher and the Ultimax just seems to have more output even at low volume hooked to the same amp. The Ultimax is a Beast of an 18" driver that will flap my pant legs, crack sheet rock, and take all the 1800 watts RMS i send it. The rss460ho is prob a good driver but it has never seemed that impressive to me, has a much lower xmax, and it cost the same as the Ultimax so easy decision in my mind between those 2. Maybe for the right application.

Now don't get me wrong there are better drivers than the Ultimax I'm sure. The Si HST comes to mind. @ Beastaudio's nearfeild HST are insanity for tactile feel and punch but you could have very close to 4 Ultimax 18's and build the enclosure's for the same price as just 2 HST drivers. Hell your 24's are way better than the Ultimax too ( they better be, right) but I was really not prepared by what I read for how strong the performance of the um18-22 is. I can't recommend the Ultimax enough. I know I'll be buying more.

Also I don't have Crowson's(I want some) but I do have a Buttkicker LFE and I love it too. I power it with an Inuke 3000DSP and it will shake your teeth out if you want it to. @SBurger uses Buttkicker's and Crowson's together on one couch and that's what I'm looking to try next myself .

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I use reship.com I have a box in Oregon that Erich ships to, then they contact me with shipping options.
I know there are different reshipping companies across the northern states..
Or I happen to know a guy with a "trio of 1099's" already for sale in Canada. Lol..
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I think I need to crawl back into my little hideaway hole and think about this for a bit... Those JBL's are beautiful - but its hard for me to justify that much cash...


The DIYSG stuff is right in the sweet spot for me (F15's and Volt10's)... but without direct shipping, for me its un-obtainium....
I emailed DIYSG anyway... I think I would really enjoy a set of F15's! Hopefully I can find a way to get them here....
Tux can build you a set of speakers! He's in Canada .
Impulseaudio.ca why not drop Ryan a line and discuss what he could build.

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Tux can build you a set of speakers! He's in Canada .
Impulseaudio.ca why not drop Ryan a line and discuss what he could build.
Great idea. Ryan built all of mine for me

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sorry, I'm not following along very well, and i should probably rear more, but oh well...

are you saying that the 4722s have a CD upgrade which makes them pretty much amazing and has all the mid bass slam you need, or are you saying the to replace the CD in the 2453H-SL?
He's saying if you upgrade the CD in the 4722n with the 2453 (or 2452 and be diaphragm if still available), then you have a killer setup for relatively cheap.
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Great idea. Ryan built all of mine for me

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If you're putting this box directly against the back of your seat, I'd consider going with some HE drivers. The PA460, in a box tuned to about 45-55hz, would be great for tactile response, especially in the midbass region. I'd also consider designing it such that you have the ability to plug a portion of the port to lower the tune to approximately 25-30hz at your convenience. This would allow you to eq a flat response down low with dsp. The tactile feel I get from my two PA460s tuned to 42hz (approximately) is quite nice. If you're going for the ULFE, then I'd go in the direction of some of the above suggestions.
This is what I did and it worked out perfect. I even used @VicTorious1 design but added 8" to the port for 35hz tune or 24hz if I plug one side of the slot. Made all the difference in my room. Great TR and much improved chest punch.

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What drivers are those?
Left over Reaction Audio 21" subs that ST picked up from Jeremy after he went out. ST was under the impression that would help with getting people refunds and he can drive across the border. If in Canada Id try IST first. Excellent stuff, though only seen/heard a couple of IST's products.

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sorry, I'm not following along very well, and i should probably rear more, but oh well...

are you saying that the 4722s have a CD upgrade which makes them pretty much amazing and has all the mid bass slam you need, or are you saying the to replace the CD in the 2453H-SL?
The CD that comes with the 4722 is no slouch, but it can be switched out, without any crossover work with the JBL 2453H-SL which is IMO a very worthwhile improvement over the stock CD still. You can get the full stock 4722 and decide for yourself later if you wanted to upgrade, but I'd definitely say it's worth it, especially when you can sell the old CD's on ebay and only end up basically paying a couple bennies to upgrade an entire LCR with the better 2453H-SL.

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