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Hah, yeah, if I had the space where I could get 10-12 feet on either side of me, like a 30 foot wide room, I would love to have all 11 speakers matching exactly. It's probably the best way to do it, just difficult at the room sizes that are average for a home.

If you've got a 30x50 room, then hell yeah. Wouldn't that be something, a 20 foot ceiling with 1299 as atmos speakers flown from the ceiling with chains!
You are losing focus! 1899 atmos bolted to the joists!
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Haha actually, yeah lol. Maybe not 1299, but something. 1899 for surrounds would be fun! Although thst would be some expensive surrounds I have only just recently been considering replacing my klipsch surrounds. I need some good seat time with 1899 before I get into that. 1299 would be pimp though, perhaps @DrDyna can build em for me too because these look great!
Thrown' that one out there!

Since the 1899's are so efficient, to "keep up" with them maybe the new HTM 12's would do it for you? Same massive 15" horn like the 1899's but "only" a 12 for mid-bass--should work great with the monstas. They are also 97dB efficient to beat the Volt 10's....and... well, overkill is the theme.

Besides, a 35 pound surround would be much easier and safer to install on a wall. Good luck!
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Thrown' that one out there!

Since the 1899's are so efficient, to "keep up" with them maybe the new HTM 12's would do it for you? Same massive 15" horn like the 1899's but "only" a 12 for mid-bass--should work great with the monstas. They are also 97dB efficient to beat the Volt 10's....and... well, overkill is the theme.

Besides, a 35 pound surround would be much easier and safer to install on a wall. Good luck!
Or Fusion 15s.. I can personally vouch for those, too
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Thrown' that one out there!

Since the 1899's are so efficient, to "keep up" with them maybe the new HTM 12's would do it for you? Same massive 15" horn like the 1899's but "only" a 12 for mid-bass--should work great with the monstas. They are also 97dB efficient to beat the Volt 10's....and... well, overkill is the theme.

Besides, a 35 pound surround would be much easier and safer to install on a wall. Good luck!
Think that may be the same delta lite that is in the 1899, not sure though. That could be good, thought about the sentinel, but then wondered if I would rather have a 3way.


.....someone must be enjoying their 1299's....
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Or Fusion 15s.. I can personally vouch for those, too
Yeah. Gotta keep it overkill for sure. I think my dad would crap a purple Twinkie if I told him I said screw it and ordered 4 more 1899 rofl. Erich would love me hahahaha
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Think that may be the same delta lite that is in the 1899, not sure though. That could be good, thought about the sentinel, but then wondered if I would rather have a 3way.
You won't miss the mid one bit, if anything (personally) I prefer the way the f15 handles mids over the 1299. :2c:

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.....someone must be enjoying their 1299's....
Oh, I bet! Hopefully no hernia moving them about.
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You won't miss the mid one bit, if anything (personally) I prefer the way the f15 handles mids over the 1299. :2c:



Oh, I bet! Hopefully no hernia moving them about.
Right on. I will be thinking on it for a while.

Wonder if he using tractor and trailer to move em? I did!
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Think that may be the same delta lite that is in the 1899, not sure though. That could be good, thought about the sentinel, but then wondered if I would rather have a 3way.
It is the same 12" Deltalite used in both speakers.
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It is the same 12" Deltalite used in both speakers.
The same "mid" and horn used in both speakers--HTM 12s would be a very close match as surrounds.

Then again, maybe he don't want to pack FOUR 1899's...

Or... 1899's for surrounds and HTM 12's for Atmos--although it would be terrifying to have 200 pound Atmos speakers hanging over your head for that extra sense of dread helpful in movies.

You could get with Ricci and build four MAUL subs to "keep up" with your surrounds--geez, time to take my meds...
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That could be good, thought about the sentinel, but then wondered if I would rather have a 3way.
Not going near that one...
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It is the same 12" Deltalite used in both speakers.
Thanks for clarifying sir!
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The same "mid" and horn used in both speakers--HTM 12s would be a very close match as surrounds.

Then again, maybe he don't want to pack FOUR 1899's...

Or... 1899's for surrounds and HTM 12's for Atmos--although it would be terrifying to have 200 pound Atmos speakers hanging over your head for that extra sense of dread helpful in movies.

You could get with Ricci and build four MAUL subs to "keep up" with your surrounds--geez, time to take my meds...

I think I need some of your meds just for considering it myself...

I mean, why not just get like 10 hst24's, rip the subfloor from the flor above the basement so that I can increase the volume of the subfloor so that I can, in turn, mount all 10 of those in the ceiling. This would clear up room in the basement to allow the 1899 surrounds. Then lay the 24's spaced out enough for the 1899 atmos. Gonna have to figure out how I can work the screen wall to accommodate my 1899 heights though. Any ideas?
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Think that may be the same delta lite that is in the 1899, not sure though. That could be good, thought about the sentinel, but then wondered if I would rather have a 3way.


.....someone must be enjoying their 1299's....
The only listen I've done so far when i pick them up a week ago. Right now I'm in the process of buying a PJ. I was real ecstatic how efficient & accurate they sound. Hopefully by the end of the month i should have everything in place to get more listen time in.

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Hmmm,

Thinking about balance--OK, you run 1899's as surrounds so have eight 18"s for SURROUND duty--basicallly you need some really, really BIG subs to stay in balance. Considering you have the same surface area with dual 18's per surround as a 24" subwoofer cone--you gotta go bigger!

Give Powersoft a call, they have the M-Force 40" cone system with 3 or 4 inches of stroke. Four of them should work for ya... some people fall down the rabbit hole, you are driving a bus through it.
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Hmmm,

Thinking about balance--OK, you run 1899's as surrounds so have eight 18"s for SURROUND duty--basicallly you need some really, really BIG subs to stay in balance. Considering you have the same surface area with dual 18's per surround as a 24" subwoofer cone--you gotta go bigger!

Give Powersoft a call, they have the M-Force 40" cone system with 3 or 4 inches of stroke. Four of them should work for ya... some people fall down the rabbit hole, you are driving a bus through it.

I'm so confused, you lost me at four? Is it even legal to do anything less than double digits? Did you mean 14?
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I'm so confused, you lost me at four? Is it even legal to do anything less than double digits? Did you mean 14?
Just four subs

After all, those Powersoft M-Force subs come with "free" 15 KW amps built in and when you mount it in a 15 Hz tuned front loaded horn--they can take up some serious space. To save time when building an enclosure, just use a large industrial dumpster and double up 1" thick ply for the leaves to prevent flex.

Four 12 foot dumpsters to make your horns should be enough. Set your crossover for 50 Hz to blow the dust off your dual 18 surrounds and you should be OK.

Don't want to go overboard or anything.
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Just four subs

After all, those Powersoft M-Force subs come with "free" 15 KW amps built in and when you mount it in a 15 Hz tuned front loaded horn--they can take up some serious space. To save time when building an enclosure, just use a large industrial dumpster and double up 1" thick ply for the leaves to prevent flex.

Four 12 foot dumpsters to make your horns should be enough. Set your crossover for 50 Hz to blow the dust off your dual 18 surrounds and you should be OK.

Don't want to go overboard or anything.

Me thinks you are half steppin. I'm gonna buy a Jensen car eq booster and 12v converter to splice in line with my subs. All of that talk up there with no walk. When all of the lights are lit on the booster....................game over.
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Me thinks you are half steppin. I'm gonna buy a Jensen car eq booster and 12v converter to splice in line with my subs. All of that talk up there with no walk. When all of the lights are lit on the booster....................game over.
Well, it is always good to be different--a big box with a port is so... typical! Granted, dual 18's in a surround is different but only in size--not in uber tech. To bring out the subs from the shadow (literally) of your massive mains, crazy horns would do it.

I'm not worthy, I have a pair of push-pull slot loaded 15's in the garage and a 12 with an 18 inch passive radiator in the house. In the real man world of AVS, I'm an infant! I can easily exceed reference in the garage (over 29Hz) but not in the house... I'm not worthy (yet)

It is cool to have something different, to the typical person giant passive radiators and PPSL sub enclosures are spacemen spiff level stuff. You KNOW you want a horn! Come on... your mains are 200 pounds so... what would be wrong with a 300 pound sub?

Maybe an Alpinegeist dual 15" push pull horn, a dozen Lilwreckers, G-horns---nothing like the arena concert look of horn mouths all lined up together along a wall. Get with Ricci and Lilmike for a 15Hz tapped horn so you can look at the beefy Rockford Fosgate 19" sub? It would make sense to have the sub cone be larger than the woofers in your surround!

Embrace the madness!

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... a dozen Lilwreckers, G-horns---nothing like the arena concert look of horn mouths all lined up together along a wall. Get with Ricci and Lilmike for a 15Hz tapped horn so you can look at the beefy Rockford Fosgate 19" sub? It would make sense to have the sub cone be larger than the woofers in your surround!

Embrace the madness!
You tuck it mister, I don't wanna have to build 12 lilwreckers!

I would in a second, though. LOL
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You tuck it mister, I don't wanna have to build 12 lilwreckers!

I would in a second, though. LOL
Hahahah especially when I have already outsourced you to build my surrounds, those are first! Lol
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What are the dimensions of these 1299 speakers you've built? I like that they look like the 1099 units..

Did you get the ports from Erich?
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What are the dimensions of these 1299 speakers you've built? I like that they look like the 1099 units..

Did you get the ports from Erich?
I know 44Hx15Wx15D..........Ports came from diysoundgroup. But keep in mine you can go seal or vented.
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@Nexgen76 @DrDyna Sorry for digging up an old thread. I am very interested in getting some 1299s soon. I have going 1299 all the way around. Left, right, center, and surrounds. Im debating on going ported. I would like to know the tune of these 1299s and possibly the size of the center channel. Any dimensions etc would be greatly appreciated.

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