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Which DIYSG kit to serve as LCR's for now, surrounds later?

Hello!

I've recently stepped up to an Emotiva XMC-1 for my 5.2 setup in my theater which consists of:
  • Def Tech BP 30
  • Def Tech CLR 2000
  • Polk F/XiA4 surrounds
  • Dual MicroMarty subs with Dayton RSS390HO-4, powered by a Crown XLS 2500

Right now I have everything in a small bedroom while I plan out a basement renovation. The bedroom is 10' by 16', with speakers on the long wall. (So only really 8' distance from screen to listening position.) My basement theater build out should be around 13' by 17' with an acoustically transparent screen, and a full 7.2.4 Atmos build. That project is probably a year out from getting finished though. (I haven't even started anything firm yet.)

While Dirac Live on the XMC-1 has done wonders for my existing speakers, the bipolar nature of the BP 30's is holding it back I think. It's just difficult to tame and I think they are the wrong speakers for this tiny room, and will be the wrong speakers to stick behind a screen. They need at least 2-3 feet of breathing room behind them to sound right, and I'd rather have speakers that are more controlled/predictable/have less placement limitations.

Ultimately I think I'd like three vertical 1099's for LCR's for the basement, but that's way too big for my current space. As a compromise I'm thinking of doing Fusion 8's for the LCRs now, and then moving those into the surrounds for the basement. It's still going to be tight-ish in the basement so I didn't want huge speakers for the surrounds.

Anyone have any recommendations otherwise?

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Since you are going to be moving into a more dedicated basement, thats how I would plan and decide on my purchases. I wouldn't say no to a great speaker because it won't be ideal in your bedroom setup. This will help in the long run because you won't be spending more money and time buying and assembling more speakers. Most of the speakers at DIYSG, at least all the cinema speakers are either sealed or front ported which means you can butt them up against the wall as close as possible.

If you wanted to get something now, I would get the Atmos and surround speakers you want to use in your basement setup and build those to use in your bedroom. Those smaller cinema speakers still do fantastic as LCRs because of the high sensitivity, high impedance and good power handling. Since you are in a smaller room, that makes things even easier to driver to loud levels, not to mention you are using subs. That would be my advice if you're looking for an efficient way to get some DIYSG speakers and effectively use them in the dedicated basement. That means you would only need to build the 1099s and move the already finished "surrounds" into place without having to sell or closet anything else.

If you compromise and get the Fusion 8s now, how would you actually use them in the basement if it's going to be a tighter fitting space? I wouldn't make any compromises. Plan, plan, and plan again. I would also add a couple more subs to the list But thats personal preference. I don't know your bass needs. Good luck and enjoy, I'm sure you will get lots of advice.

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I had Volt 6s for mains while finishing up my 893 and I really liked them. In your case you might want to try the Volt 8 or 10
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Volt 6 or Fusion 10's get my vote

Why waste $ on more cheap stuff, it's like challenging a dragon with a pocket knife.
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volt 10lx sounded great for lcr in my temporary setup
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The other good thing about the volts is that they can be used as atmos speakers. So you can have all volts for surrounds and atmos speakers.
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Volt 10LXs sound great as my desktop speakers.
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Love the Volt 6's these are my mains for now.
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I auditioned my F4Q4's as mains in my <110 ft^2 mancave, in an 8.2 setup,

total blowout

they are my surrounds in the set up in my sig, that room is 14.5 wide, for 1 couch/row of seating,
XT32 put the xo @40

I also gave the Volt6's the same run and then as mains in the big room,
definitely not lacking, they need subs , just not the same oomph as the Fusion 15's, needless to say

As ATMOS tops, they will not disappoint

link for F4Q4 build
https://www.avsforum.com/forum/155-di...le-d-f4q4.html

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Thanks everyone. I'm leaning towards the Volts and would go for the angled versions. The Volt 8 angled version is ported and the site says it'll go down to 65 hz, but the larger Volt 10 angled enclosure is sealed and only hits 70 hz. With Dirac Live, would this difference really matter? Should I go for the larger driver to have more overhead + sensitivity, or the smaller ported enclosure to have lower extension naturally?
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Thanks everyone. I'm leaning towards the Volts and would go for the angled versions. The Volt 8 angled version is ported and the site says it'll go down to 65 hz, but the larger Volt 10 angled enclosure is sealed and only hits 70 hz. With Dirac Live, would this difference really matter? Should I go for the larger driver to have more overhead + sensitivity, or the smaller ported enclosure to have lower extension naturally?
Are you not using subs? Crossing over at 80hz should take care of that question you have. Take into consideration the size. They are eventually going to be mounted. But I'm glad you're looking at these like I originally suggested and not compromising.

My vote is always larger driver sealed.

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