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Next Up:

Need to remove the door from my shop in order to roll this bad-boy into the theater room and place it against (and under my seating).
("boat in the basement story" - thought I had a wider door in my shop - almost messed this up).

This next step may be delayed because I am recuperating from being caught in a 4-ar expressway accident on I355 last Friday.
Good news no broken bones and the person at fault got 3 tickets. I was not ticketed - but instead was hit by 3 separate impacts, and am sore as hell and am on concussion watch, with prescription pain pills and muscle relaxers for a few more days

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oh wow man. glad youre ok. sub is looking good!

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oh wow man. glad youre ok. sub is looking good!
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in all seriousness . .

talk about serendipity . . .

NOW would be the perfect time to hook that thing up

: and am sore as hell and am on concussion watch, with prescription pain pills and muscle relaxers for a few more days

an opportune time to mellow out, sink into that comfy chair and enjoy some well deserved time out for a full body healing massage,
what could possibly go wrong ?



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Hope your feeling better Craig seems like everyone is doing 80 when I'm on 355. The cabinets look awesome along with the carpet. It should fit perfectly in your place for you.
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Thanks Mike!

Yeah I-355 is nuts these days, also hurts when they suddenly stop from 70mph to stopped in your trunk, with a few other spin-outs piling on just for fun :smirk:
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Hey Guys - thanks for the kind responses.
I might have to give asarose's "deep muscle bass-massage" suggestion a try
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Building the shape of box that you built is very hard. I know first hand because of the two I built that were kind of similar to yours but not the same. The cuts are difficult and one wrong cut in the opposite direction makes the piece of mdf into fire wood. What's cool looking in this thread is The box is a custom fit specifically for your room and the space you needed it fill that can't be bought at the store and if custom fabricated would be a fortune. It was fun watching this box build. Hopefully after a week of rest you can get the box in the room.
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Thanks Mike - appreciate that!!

Certainly was a good challenge - not yet sure how I will do the bar-top?

Could you let me know how wide (front to back, "belly-forward"). your bar top is for your second row?

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Thanks Mike - appreciate that!!

Certainly was a good challenge - not yet sure how I will do the bar-top?

Could you let me know how wide (front to back, "belly-forward"). your bar top is for your second row?

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When I get home in a few hours I'll measure my bar top and let you what size it is.
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Craig the bar top 18" by 110" inches and there's 4 L brackets underneath along with the framed wood and drywall. The granite place wanted more support underneath it. The brackets were bought from menards by the kitchen area in the store in the back on a rack priced at 15$ each. You might want to consider getting a few for more support.
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Thanks Mike - especially for the bracket info.
Will definetly be pursuing additional support

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VBBShaker is finally finished

My Bad! Between my accident recovery, and returning to work; I finally managed to get this finished up.

The bar top is 15" deep by 80' long. I used a slab of preformed formica counter-top (Menards "Baltic Slate"), and reinforced the underside with 3/4" plywood.

I then attempted some upholstery skills by trimming 3 edges with a padded Naugahyde "bump/spill" rail.
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How about 80" long
And one last "Ready to Rumble" photo, This does a nice job energizing the 2 center sweet-spot chairs, The 2 outermost chairs are energized via my original Clark Transducers
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The VBBShaker has officially replaced my loyal "Subtable".
The SubTable has become the "red-headed step-child", and is in need of a good home........
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The SubTable has become the "red-headed step-child", and is in need of a good home........
What model is that one, and what you looking for price wise? May be interested, or know someone interested...

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Nice stealth install, Eddy! Everyone is going nearfield these days, I'll have to plan ahead for that. How would you compare the new sub to the Clark's? I know it's apples to bananas... but do your best.
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My Bad! Between my accident recovery, and returning to work; I finally managed to get this finished up.
Accident?! Hanes to the rescue!



I suppose this is old news to AVS regulars, but what happened my friend, and more importantly, how are you?
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Great build!. Thanks for sharing. I notice your port is on the side. Do you feel like you're missing anything having it there instead of on the face? I realize the form would have made it pretty difficult to implement on the face with the form factor you're using, depending on the length of the port.

Just wondering what different port options you considered during design.
Using a single port, right? Overall volume around 6.25 cu ft? So is your tune 15Hz?
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Nice stealth install, Eddy! Everyone is going nearfield these days, I'll have to plan ahead for that. How would you compare the new sub to the Clark's? I know it's apples to bananas... but do your best.
OJ - Thanks!
I will post some subjective comparisons of the TR tomorrow. Today I will be finishing up my Atmos overhead speakers and then some Audysey tweaking.
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Hanes my friend; Thanks for the well-being check! Hope the Holidays are going well for you and yours?

As for my accident; the Friday of the Cubs celebration, I was heading home from work in heavier than normal expressway traffic. Traffic came to a stop (at least for most of us), and then I watched in my rear view as one car going about 70, swerved braked and caused a second car to spin out. The original offender finally got stopped well inside my trunk, and the 2nd car got straightened out enough to T-bone me, then just for fun I was pushed into the back of a pickup. Got myself a trip to the ER for numerous scans, X-rays, and observation, fortunately no broken bones or blood, got a serious concussion and severe whiplash. The offender (a 2-time DUI driver got 3 tickets)

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Great build!. Thanks for sharing. I notice your port is on the side. Do you feel like you're missing anything having it there instead of on the face? I realize the form would have made it pretty difficult to implement on the face with the form factor you're using, depending on the length of the port.

Just wondering what different port options you considered during design.
Using a single port, right? Overall volume around 6.25 cu ft? So is your tune 15Hz?
Brazle - Thanks!

By my calculations this should be a bit over 7 cu'. Yeah; the single port means it should be tuned about 15 Hz, perhaps a bit lower. I struggled a lot in trying to find port placement that I felt would mimic Mtg90's original port placement.

For the "how would I do it over again category":
I wish I would have reached out, seeked some creative advice in order to get, one large , or 2 smaller ports placed adjacent to the driver cone so that they might also energize the seat backs.
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Nice stealth install, Eddy! Everyone is going nearfield these days, I'll have to plan ahead for that. How would you compare the new sub to the Clark's? I know it's apples to bananas... but do your best.
OJ,

Sorry, I am so tardy with this update, I wanted to really explore your question and do a good evaluation of the Clark Silver transducers -vs- the VBSS in a near-field setting, so here goes:

1) My first test was with a tone-generator app from my phone to the Aux inputs of my AVR with standard audyssey level settings:
The differences were marginal down to 20 Hz. HOWEVER the VBSS had a noticeable advantage form 20Hz to 15 Hz.

2) The next test was listening to a Lead Zeppelin concert video with the LFE channel bumped up by 4 db. WOW - the VBSS seats really rocked with the kick-drum!

3) Using the same +4db bump, I then watched the new Magnificent 7 move. No comparison; the VBSS shook from the footrests , including deep chest thumps, and continued to the headrest. The Clarks shook well enough in the butt, however they "paled by comparison"
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Great write up Craig sounds like this box and sub is winner for sure. I love these crazy angled boxes there very challenging to build.
Thanks Mike!
Challenge for sure - but each challenge moves me one-step-up from the wood butcher I used to be (still am)
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Another pa460 success story! Makes me want to sell my HT18's and build a stack of VBSS! Maybe this ULF stuff is less important than the 25hz and up stuff?? Congrats on a great build.

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Challenge for sure - but each challenge moves me one-step-up from the wood butcher I used to be (still am)


Your far from a butcher that box is crazy impressive in my book. Lots of angles nothing isn't really square on that thing and looks great.
As soon as we get some warmer days I'm starting on two more nearfield boxes myself since I picked up 2 more subs making it 6-15's for the nearfield action behind the seats. Can't wait!
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Sorry, I am so tardy with this update, I wanted to really explore your question and do a good evaluation of the Clark Silver transducers -vs- the VBSS in a near-field setting, so here goes...
Thanks for this effort, cuzed! It sounds like you have the best of both worlds, but the nearfield came out looking better than I had expected! I don't think I'll have any way to squeeze one into my future setup, so I'll stick with shakers, but I appreciate the detailed comparison!
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