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1899 build with horizontal center

I was hooked from the beginning when Erich started the original thread that evolved into the 1899. I had tossed the thought of a quad 1099 or 1299 around, but couldn't shake the 1899. Patzig's 1899 thread made me cave, lol. He has the only other build thread I am aware of, but it is buried with the diysoundgroup forum that is no longer accessible. I have added a link to his thread below. It is late and I am tired, so here are the baffles and some speaker porn for now, more to come. @Patzig thread:
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Awesome! I'm happy to see another 1899 build. In that last photo, is there a chunk taken out of the rim of one of the woofers?
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Awesome! I'm happy to see another 1899 build. In that last photo, is there a chunk taken out of the rim of one of the woofers?

I knew the eagle eyes around here would not disappoint! Yes, that one was damaged in shipping. I am awaiting a replacement. Damn, I purposely placed it that way when I received them a month or so ago wondering how long it would go until someone caught it, hahah!
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I knew the eagle eyes around here would not disappoint! Yes, that one was damaged in shipping. I am awaiting a replacement. Damn, I purposely placed it that way when I received them a month or so ago wondering how long it would go until someone caught it, hahah!
Hey, you could have at least said I wasn't the one that packaged/shipped those woofers!

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I was hooked from the beginning when Erich started the original thread that evolved into the 1899. I had tossed the thought of a quad 1099 or 1299 around, but couldn't shake the 1899. Patzig's 1899 thread made me cave, lol. He has the only other build thread I am aware of, but it is buried with the diysoundgroup forum that is no longer accessible. I have added a link to his thread below. It is late and I am tired, so here are the baffles and some speaker porn for now, more to come. @Patzig thread:
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This picture certainly puts the size of the 1899 into perspective...

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The speakers are great and all, but that shop.... Immaculate!
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Awesome, I didn't it would work that way, thanks!
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Hey, you could have at least said I wasn't the one that packaged/shipped those woofers!
Lol I haven't even gotten that far in the thread yet! I would guess 90% of the forum knows your packaging would survive being thrown into Grand Canyon, let alone giving 20 five year olds at xmas a run for their money unwrapping it! Heheh, Erich's packaging is something to behold fellas. If it is damaged in transit, it probably would never had made it any other way.
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This picture certainly puts the size of the 1899 into perspective...

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I thought it looked big when I first set it up. Then I looked iver and saw the door. Moved it over next to the door and yep, almost as big as a door!
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The speakers are great and all, but that shop.... Immaculate!
Thanks for the kind words! I don't know that I could function anymore without it!
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So about Erich's packaging. This is only some of what was packing the CDs, ports, mids, seos, etc. There was what seemed like 2 rolls worth of packing tape used holding all of the boxes everything together inside the main box as well lol. I was chuckling every minute it took to unwrap





Did I mention ports? I never thought I would get to the end of unwrapping each port from paper and package tape. You don't really think about how many there are until you receive them, 18 of them bastards haha....




Then I received the baffles, Erich left me details notes to be sure....




Unwrapping those was just as much of an adventure as I am sure it was for him to package it! It was so involved that totally forgot to take pics of it until the notes were about to be hauled outside. I have those big blue trash cans that the trucks latch onto to dump, the packaging pretty much filled it lol.

That said, I am not complaining one bit, everything from Erich arrived intact without issue. Keep doing what you do, Erich, it was fun unwrapping your presents


Now, the shipment from Parts Express on the other hand...





Their packaging had a lot to be desired, and the results show. There was nothing protecting the woofer other than the box flaps on the top. The bottom had expand type foam, that was it. I am surprise only one woofer was damaged. Erich needs to show em how it's done...
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subbed. been waiting to see someone build these with a horizontal layout. congrats you own probably the biggest horizontal center on this entire planet.
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subbed. been waiting to see someone build these with a horizontal layout. congrats you own probably the biggest horizontal center on this entire planet.
Haha yeah that has been a long running thing with a friend of mine. He has one of those old big Martin Logan electro stats. Think I finally got him lol
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The drivers and speaker baffles are nice and all, but I'll take the shop and the toys in it over those items every day of the week that ends in "y".

Good luck with the build and have some fun ... subscribed
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Speakers are cool, but I see a removable front end, a dry sump tank, stacks.... LETS SEE THE CAMARO!


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You guys gotta focus! Good eye, the other toys are tremendous fun. After I get through this thread, I may try to see if I can find pics of those
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Awesome man!!! Can't wait to track this. I'm sure this build will be as immaculate as your work space. I always wondered what the horizontal orientation would look like...looks awesome! Good luck with everything, post lots of pics!

I posted final pictures of mine in my build thread. I can't add anymore posts, but I was able to edit post #2
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Awesome man!!! Can't wait to track this. I'm sure this build will be as immaculate as your work space. I always wondered what the horizontal orientation would look like...looks awesome! Good luck with everything, post lots of pics!

I posted final pictures of mine in my build thread. I can't add anymore posts, but I was able to edit post #2
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Next up is some progress. I did the verticals first. I had home depot cut down the full sheets so that I had a few inches extra for each panel both width and height. This made it manageable and let me control the final cuts. I am not the guy that can sit around and mess with 30 clamps waiting for glue to dry either, lol. I used one clamp in a few areas to make life easy. All of the cabs are glued and nailed. On with some pics.





After getting the mid chamber in there, I decided to drill a couple holes for the volume, I wouldn't be able to sleep if I didn't At some point I decided the cordless was taking too long and burning the wood too much for my liking so I drug out the big corded drill and drilled the holes before securing the chamber in the next cab.






The adjustable triangle square is a fantastic tool that has so many uses other than, of course, checking for square. We used it to set depth and mark lines on the outside for nailing throughout the entire project.






And a dry fit, this pic pissed me off, no matter how I rotate it, it would not upload right

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How many horizontal braces are you going to be installing and when do the baffles get glued on?

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How many horizontal braces are you going to be installing and when do the baffles get glued on?
There are three horizontal braces that are as wide as the mid chamber is deep, going across. The baffles are on.
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Are they 'window pane' style braces? It looked like they were solid pieces of wood, but not sure.

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Are they 'window pane' style braces? It looked like they were solid pieces of wood, but not sure.
The two sides of the mid chamber have holes cut out to allow the volume in the gaps to be open. The third brace does not have holes as it does not go the entire depth of the cab, so I felt it was not necessary.
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And a dry fit, this pic pissed me off, no matter how I rotate it, it would not upload right
I hate that glitch. Worst case scenario, screen cap it on your phone when it's in the proper orientation, and use that.

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I hate that glitch. Worst case scenario, screen cap it on your phone when it's in the proper orientation, and use that.

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Great suggestion! I will remember that if it happens again. He is die hard ku, he is the guy that has them winning the championship in his bracket every year, and actually believes it......lol
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Working with the horizontal center was more or less the same as the verticals. Erich did not like the initial turn out for the baffle as the spacing did not look right after the mid and seos were rotated. He had the idea to shorten the width by 4" to 60" instead of the original 64". This made the spacing of the speakers match closer to the verticals. I agree and think it looks pretty good. This of course resulted in the depth needing to be 7/8" deeper to match the volume of the verticals. Another subject of note, is that the mid chamber needed to be adjusted as well due to the orientation. On the verticals, only the baffle serves as a side for the chamber. With the center, the baffle and the bottom serve as two sides of the chamber. Easy enough to adjust, just be mindful when you go to measure it out if you do a horizontal. Erich was on the fence about continuing to offer a horizontal center. The end result of this one is fantastic so I hope it remains available. Also note that the center baffle is 3/4 instead of 1" for the verticals. I have used double baffles for these, so after cutting the holes for the double baffle, you will want to remove the recess on the outer baffle for the woofers and mid so they will as close to flush as possible. Once could even recess a little more on the second baffle if desired, but I did not.




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so the jayhawk shirt....where are you located at? i wanna come see these in person possibly. I'm a little north of kansas city.
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