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These seem like a winner. Good job @mtg90 . Nice build @eng-399 . Now I have to decide if I'm going to move my current surround Volt 6s to atmos ceiling duty and to try these as my side and rear surrounds. Hmmm....

Thanks!

That's exactly what I have Vic the volt 6's for Atmos and these HTM-10's for all my surrounds.
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Do they keep up with the 15's in the B215XL???


I only took them to 0 on the avr I'll have to try that out tomorrow morning since I had to leave for work. They do sound better than the berry's and have more midbass that's for sure.
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That's exactly what I have Vic the volt 6's for Atmos and these HTM-10's for all my surrounds.
Are you going to swap out your Berrys for the HTM-12 or F15?
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DIYSG HTM-10 Speaker Build

My review on the HTM-10's

First off for the size of these speakers I was impressed with the amount of midbass these have since they only have one ten inch speaker in them.
They don't seem bright to me at all. The voices coming from these are spot on and at no time I wanted to turn them down. The cd on them sounds great very smooth. This is a very dynamic speaker that keep up with my 8 subs in the room. My room for reference is 31 feet long with 2 rows of seats and a bar behind the last row with four more seats there to.

The deep voices were clear the S's in female voices were spot on. These are a lot better than my 15" berry's that I use for my LCR. I'm not sure once I take it it any louder how they would do compared to what I already have up front because I didn't test that yet but I'm super impressed so far. I knew these were going to sound good but my expectations of these were beat once turned up.

When the subs are on I crossed these at 80hz. When it was played with 2 channel music they were in pure mode.

My recommendation for these....
Small to medium size rooms for an LCR setup yes.
For a large room buy the HTM -12 for that.
You don't really listen to movies all the time above reference even though these had no problem running at that level that's why I'm posting about these in certain size rooms. It was really loud in today down there. Buy these speakers they sound great.

I'll post more once I have more time my son was with me this morning so it was hard to spend more than 2 hours down there. More videos to come tomorrow.

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@mtg90 great job on these.


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Good review

Does that little inner voice start to bother you? Ya know the one, the OCD fairy. Put those HTM-10s in the surround area and crank up a movie--then the OCD fairy starts to whisper than the surrounds have better sound quality than the mains. You fight it at first but ponder three HTM-12s across the front--then dismiss the thought. And yet, you hear those echoes and really start to ponder HTM-12s--for the subs of course. Yeah, you could also use the excuse they are more efficient than the Berries so you are saving electricity--and in so doing, saving the planet.

Looking forward to your review on the HTM-12s--because you know you will eventually. Thanks for the info and I'm sure everything will be out of stock soon.
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I had 3 HTM-12 in my basket earlier but want to confirm I can get hold of some crossover boards at some point before I go all out :/
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I had 3 HTM-12 in my basket earlier but want to confirm I can get hold of some crossover boards at some point before I go all out :/


I personally saw a ton of brand new crossover parts still in the bags at Matt's house last week as we talked about the boards. Send him a PM I'm sure he would be happy to build them for you.
@18Hurts lol I know bro I do have the upgrade fever. Those MTM-12's might just happen and would save on the electric bill which means a happy wife seeing lower bills come.
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@eng-399 , how would you compare these to other well regarded DIYSG speakers - 1099, F15, etc?
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I personally saw a ton of brand new crossover parts still in the bags at Matt's house last week as we talked about the boards. Send him a PM I'm sure he would be happy to build them for you.
I will do when I hit 15 posts so I can PM!
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Glad you are liking them. I've been mullin over 4 htm-12 for my surrounds as it is the same woofer as the 1899 mid.
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@eng-399 , how would you compare these to other well regarded DIYSG speakers - 1099, F15, etc?


That's tuff I would have to hear them in a A/B setup the fusion 15 has a lot more midbass to them but the fusion 15's also have a 15 inch speaker in it along with the 1099's having dual 10" speakers , mids and a cd. I like all the speakers your asking about but I find the HTM-10 less bright than the 1099's. I know you can fix that if one thinks that speaker is bright sounding to them like talked about on the 1099 thread but I haven't heard one that it was done to. As for the 1099's it would be Unfair for me to really judge those two since it's been a while hearing the 1099's.

The 1099's and F15's I think work best in larger rooms but for smaller to medium size rooms these work very IMO. The HTM has a very smooth sound to it which I like.

I think it would be a better comparison if I had the HTM-12 up against those two speakers blind so the battle ground would be more even.

One thing to think about is price and the space your using these in. If you can go bigger do it but if can't these would definitely do the job and you wouldn't be unhappy with the sound from them.
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Glad you are liking them. I've been mullin over 4 htm-12 for my surrounds as it is the same woofer as the 1899 mid.


Perfect match then you won't regret the sound from these. Funny thing is I'm running these as LCR's or testing but going to use mine for surrounds like your saying. The HTM-12 will keep up with your 1899's since there being used for surrounds with no problem on output.
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Perfect match then you won't regret the sound from these. Funny thing is I'm running these as LCR's or testing but going to use mine for surrounds like your saying. The HTM-12 will keep up with your 1899's since there being used for surrounds with no problem on output.
Yeah I was thinking it was the best choice for the match. They would be replacing klipsch rs52's. The keep up okay, but sound quite different.
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I had 3 HTM-12 in my basket earlier but want to confirm I can get hold of some crossover boards at some point before I go all out :/
My email is my username @ msn.com, if you want just the circuit boards to assemble the crossovers yourself I have a bunch ready and I could send some to Erich to pack up with your kits otherwise I'll likely start shipping assembled boards to him sometime next week I am sure he would be able to hold onto the kits until the assembled boards get there.
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@eng-399 - is this what you use on your boxes prior to priming/painting: DAP Vinyl Spackling?
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@eng-399 - is this what you use on your boxes prior to priming/painting: DAP Vinyl Spackling?


I bought this from menards. Next time I'll try bondo but I already had this at home from other box builds so I figured why not use it again. Plus it's easy to sand off and drys fast.
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Wow @eng-399 thanks for the review and videos. It sounds like the HTM line is going to be a big success, and I think you've just convinced me to go for a set of 3 HTM-12s up front.

What was that last gun battle clip from?

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@mtg90 hey Matt, are the completed crossovers an extra charge for the kits, or just an option? Same for the circuit boards... Even just having the boards would make assembly a lot easier and cleaner.

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Wow @eng-399 thanks for the review and videos. It sounds like the HTM line is going to be a big success, and I think you've just convinced me to go for a set of 3 HTM-12s up front.

What was that last gun battle clip from?

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Congrats! Your going to really like them!

The last movie clip was 13 hours of Benghazi the gun shots in the movie are a lot of with subs going along with everything else.
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@mtg90 hey Matt, are the completed crossovers an extra charge for the kits, or just an option? Same for the circuit boards... Even just having the boards would make assembly a lot easier and cleaner.

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The completed crossover boards would be an additional option for the kit (like the flatpack). The kits will likely come with PCB's in the future like the Volts do once Erich can get the boards made up and ordered in bulk, might be a slight price increase once they get added.
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Awesome, thanks guys!

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Order placed for 3 HTM-12
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Order placed for 3 HTM-12
Me too. With a side order of eight Volt-6 kits for surround and Atmos.


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@eng-399 did you listen to the HTM-10's as per your picture with them pretty much on the floor angled up?

Only reason I ask as I could do something similar to allow the screen to remain low. Just wondering if the sound is compromised in any way with them being below MLP. Roughly what is the angle to MLP you have?
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@eng-399 did you listen to the HTM-10's as per your picture with them pretty much on the floor angled up?



Only reason I ask as I could do something similar to allow the screen to remain low. Just wondering if the sound is compromised in any way with them being below MLP. Roughly what is the angle to MLP you have?


Yes I listened to them just like the picture I posted. I could of put them behind my screen but was to lazy to pull out my LCR's. I noticed there was a little change in sound when these were on the ground and not tilted up a little. When having the cd facing your ears it sounds much better. I would definitely recommend doing the same if there going to be placed below your screen and not at ear level height. I basically took a 2/4 and stuck it underneath and that angle worked out fine. Here's the latest pictures of them.


I need to re run Audyssey tonight now that these are in place and get them dialed in. Once done I'll run a test tone via my avr and have my UMM-6 mic out and tweak the levels all around the room.

The next thing on the list for these after the holidays is to install my rgb led lights inside all my columns so the speakers can be displayed when playing music for party's at my house.

I also need to fill in the cavities above each speaker with Denim or drywall painted black so there's no gaps above each speaker kinda like mini baffle wall.

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So, @eng-399 , have you played around with them in their new locations?

I picked up my kits and am starting to plan my build, so I came back to the thread to see if you specified where you mounted your crossovers, but I didn't see a pic of that. I was thinking on the side of the encolsure? Is there room at the back?


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So, @eng-399 , have you played around with them in their new locations?

I picked up my kits and am starting to plan my build, so I came back to the thread to see if you specified where you mounted your crossovers, but I didn't see a pic of that. I was thinking on the side of the encolsure? Is there room at the back?


I'm really liking these speakers! One thing about these is they play loud and I listen to music loud and movies of course when the family isn't there. These have midbass that my pi speakers (bass reflex 2's) didn't have. It's perfect for my setup and I really don't see me looking to upgrade anytime soon. I forgot to take pictures of the crossovers but I basically placed them on the bottom of the box between the ports. You really don't see them at all. I used 2 pieces 3m Velcro to the bottom of the board to the box so they don't move. There's many ways to mount the crossover but I had the Velcro handy and it holds them in place with out any movement.

There is room in the back for these and the sides you can basically mount them anyway you want to. I just choose the bottom since gravity and my Velcro will keep it from moving around.
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Good call. I'll see if I can do a bottom mount too, since there's no risk of them shaking loose and falling that way. Glad to hear how much you like these. I was thinking yesterday that the 12's are really probably "too much" speaker for the small room I'm going to have (I know, I know... "what is too much!?") but I figure going with the biggest speakers I could fit will eliminate any doubts or desires to upgrade.


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Good call. I'll see if I can do a bottom mount too, since there's no risk of them shaking loose and falling that way. Glad to hear how much you like these. I was thinking yesterday that the 12's are really probably "too much" speaker for the small room I'm going to have (I know, I know... "what is too much!?") but I figure going with the biggest speakers I could fit will eliminate any doubts or desires to upgrade.


These do need a sub backing them like the rest of the 10" and 12" speaker kits but I liked the amount of midbass these made.
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