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DIYSG HTM-10 Speaker Build

Hi guy's I'll be building these new HTM-10 speakers that DIYSG just launched a few weeks a ago. The plan is to use these for all my surrounds side and rear. I bought the kit with out the flat pack due to them being 1 inch to wide for all my columns in my room. I be building the box with the same volume as the flat pack but making the depth of it wider. All these will be powered through my Emotiva 7 channel amp and Marantz SR7010 AVR.

Today when I was leaving to go to work FEDEX showed up with the kit so tonight when I get home I'll post pictures of the kit. Once this project is done I run these up front as my left and right channel for a day to see how these will play with my 8 subs in my room. I know there's a few guys out there wondering if these can be used as mains.
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I'm looking forward to this build as well. My drywall guy just asked to buy my 1099s from me. I'm debating whether I should order the HTM-12 to compare with the 1099s. Then I could keep whichever set I like best and sell him the other set.
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I'm looking forward to this build as well. My drywall guy just asked to buy my 1099s from me. I'm debating whether I should order the HTM-12 to compare with the 1099s. Then I could keep whichever set I like best and sell him the other set.


You would be the first to test them out. I bet a ton of guys including myself would like to know the sound difference between the two. That would be pretty active thread if you did that. My vote is to do it!
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You would be the first to test them out. I bet a ton of guys including myself would like to know the sound difference between the two. That would be pretty active thread if you did that. My vote is to do it!
I'm with Mike....DO IT VIC!!

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@eng-399 - Mike, do you still have access to the 1099s that you had at your GTG? I believe you also built some 1099s for another AVSer, correct? I wonder if you'll be able to compare.
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I can call dman and see if he's ok with doing that. That's who I built the 1099's for. He's about 1 HT away so it's hard to get out there but I'll try to make time once these are done.
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Need pics!
Looking forward to these making noise and the review.
I may go AT and that would allow going thin and as wide as I want.
Are these built yet
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I can call dman and see if he's ok with doing that. That's who I built the 1099's for. He's about 1 HT away so it's hard to get out there but I'll try to make time once these are done.
Hm, is that some new AVS lingo that I havent learned yet? How far is 1 HT? Is that next door, next city over, what? How do I convert Home Theater into time/distance? LOL, sorry Mike, had to give you a hard time on that one, couldn't pass it up

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Need pics!

Looking forward to these making noise and the review.

I may go AT and that would allow going thin and as wide as I want.

Are these built yet


No there not built yet I'm starting tomorrow on that. I hoping tonight to have another sub box built for my buddy I've been working on for the last few days. I just need to clamp a few more panels and then it's pretty much done. I sold him my JBL cs1214's so once the clamps come off in the morning I'll start on mine.

I liked the way Matt and Erich were thinking when these were designed keeping the depth of the boxes narrow it helps a lot in HT rooms with not a lot of space.
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Without an At screen many are doomed to skinny width speakers to max the screen. This often forces the wides closer or next to side walls. That is my problem. Plus the center has to go under or over.

I don't have much room depth, so an AT screen will allow speaker width, but speaker depth pushes the screen into my limited depth...

I wonder how much differnce there is between the wider seos Vs a narrow seos for off axis dispersion? Or whatever horizontal clarity is called. I would like to improve my off center horizontal vocal clarity. Like up to 45 degrees for my single row wide theater CHEAP seats. 1 row theater for me....
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Show in tell time
First is the box
Erich really knows how to pack these take a look at the side it's lined with more cardboard and foam to insure nothing gets damaged during the shipment.
After a few mins getting everything out here's what comes it. The ten inch speakers btw will be at my house next week from Erich.


The baffles are 1 inch thick and with the cut out for the speaker to sit flush I'm not sure if I'll use any backer blocks behind it since it already has about a 1/2inch to screw on to it.

The crossover parts I showed in the pictures that are layed out are just for one speaker the other xo parts are still in the bag. Man @mtg90 that's a lot of parts to install on the board looks like this was really thought out great work man!

Again the two 10 inch speakers will be at my house next week once they get here and I'll post pictures of them to they do come with the kit so no worries if any one is wondering about that.
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The columns in the room were these HTM-10's will be installed. I'm buying two more this week for the rear surrounds.


Now the rear surrounds


Behind the fabric frames in the columns... if anyone wants to know what fabric I used it was the black DMD fabric.
PI Bass reflex 2 speakers coming out
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Tasty!
These kits look too perfect. Not my style. Maybe I can get in on seconds or shipping mishaps after the first 100 are sold?
If these 10 inchers rock I think I am in for the 12s for the front stage. At 8" MLP they should be more than plenty. I just need a few e.q. Channels to overload the mid bass...?
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wish i could upgrade my speakers every 3 months...

looking forward to this thread..i got my eyes on those beauties..

great job as always Mike!!!
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Beautiful room! Looking forward to the results and build!
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Bah, apparently my post didn't go through. That's a nice looking room! That packaging looks familiar too! Love it every time I see it lol! Looking forward to the build
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Today when I was leaving to go to work FEDEX showed up with the kit so tonight when I get home I'll post pictures of the kit....


I vote eng-399 as the employee of the year! C'mon, how many of us would bailed on work under these circumstances (no need to raise your hand, the boss may be watching).


Really nice looking space, the HTM's seemed tailor made for those columns. I love wide but thin speakers, they just are so much easier to position in a room yet still have the required cu ft.
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I vote eng-399 as the employee of the year! C'mon, how many of us would bailed on work under these circumstances (no need to raise your hand, the boss may be watching).


Really nice looking space, the HTM's seemed tailor made for those columns. I love wide but thin speakers, they just are so much easier to position in a room yet still have the required cu ft.


Haha I won't confirm or deny any box building at work from me. I haven't made much progress on these I've had a nasty ear ache that slowed me down... As for the boxes on these I started to cut the baffles down to size for my columns and then noticed I need 1/2 mdf for the sides so off to Meanards again in the more to get all the cuts done.

I only had to shave the sides off 3/4 of an inch total so they can fit were there going.


On another note I just ordered two more of the HTM-10's for the back surrounds just now. I figured why wait and get them all done at one time plus I can see how these will be for a small room setup for LCR's. Can't wait to start glueing the pieces together.
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Really interested in seeing how these come together. Thanks for taking the time to write this up.

Your room is gorgeous...can I ask what the dimensions are?

Thanks again.

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Really interested in seeing how these come together. Thanks for taking the time to write this up.



Your room is gorgeous...can I ask what the dimensions are?



Thanks again.


Thanks man the room size is 31 feet long , 8.7 high after drywall and 13.5 wide on average. The room is strange with the width it starts out at 12.5 then goes to 13.5 then 16ft wide in a he back due the concrete foundation on the house. If I could do it over again I would of reversed the room and framed it 1-2 ft wider...
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2 more quick questions about your room:

What's your screen size, and how far back is the second row of seating. (if you can't guess I'm trying to size my room, which has similar dimensions). Thanks

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What's your screen size, and how far back is the second row of seating. (if you can't guess I'm trying to size my room, which has similar dimensions). Thanks
120" Falcon Horizon screen 16.9

The room behind my screen is 30" inches so I have enough room for subs and LCR's. Then from my screen to my head is 12 ft in the first row. Then the second row is 18ft from my screen to my head so basically six from the first row. You want a minimum of 6 feet from your first row to the second so when you recline your chairs your feet don't hit the the quest sitting In Your first row. I have 14-15"inches behind my seats for nearfield subs'(wish I had more space) in the 2nd row to. Then I have a bar with 4 bar stools for additional sitting in the room behind the last row. The last row and the bar all sit on a 2/10 riser and if your building your room I suggest building with 2/12's so when sitting in the 2 row your not straining to see above your guests heads sitting there. I learned this the hard way once the room was complete. The rest off length is what ever is left I would have to measure but I'm not at home right now.

Also If you like to have a great theatrical realistic feeling in your room I really suggest wiring for nearfield subs and installing them back there. Theres nothing like hearing and at the same time really feeling the gun shots and explosions from the movie your watching it's like being punched in the back of the chair. Hope this helps.

I would suggest to plan for Atmos by running wires even if you don't think you want it. I made that mistake myself but was lucky enough to have a bulkhead in my ceiling on each side to run the speaker wires in. There's so much to this... I if I could go back I would of changed a few things in there like pre wiring for Atmos with mdf-green glue-drywall walled boxes between my floor joist before drywall was installed.
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I made a little progress on these boxes yesterday. I installed all the bracing inside all 4 boxes and next on the list is to drill the holes for the speaker terminals on the back of the box and glue the front baffles on. I'm also waiting on the two kits that I bought so I can get the crossover parts over to Matt's house for him to assemble. The kit doesn't come with the blank board or wiring schematic for the cross parts so I have no idea what needs to be soldered together. I'm sure down the road the schematic will be included in the kit I think. I was first guy who bought these kits...
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Funny, I was working on my 1299's today and noticed how 90% of my HF clamps still had that green & white tag on them. Guess most of us just ignore those tags and start clamping away

Things seem to be going smoothly with the build. Think you'll have it knocked out by the end of the week?

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Funny, I was working on my 1299's today and noticed how 90% of my HF clamps still had that green & white tag on them. Guess most of us just ignore those things and start clamping away

Things seem to be going smoothly with the build. Think you'll have it knocked out by the end of the week?

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Man I just noticed that to the green and white sticker on the clamps from harbor freight lol. I hope these will be done later this week. I took off work tomorrow for Halloween so I should have time get both baffles on two of the boxes and then start sanding and getting the drywall mud on these to make seamless. The crazy thing is these will be in cased in my columns so one will see them but at least I'll know they look good. Hopefully my two other HTM-10's kits ship this week to me so o can button these up.
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I should have time get both baffles on two of the boxes and then start sanding and getting the drywall mud on these to make seamless. The crazy thing is these will be in cased in my columns so one will see them but at least I'll know they look good.
I was having the exact same thoughts today while I was sanding and filling holes with Bondo today. I mean they'll be going behind a screen why in the world am I doing all this work? But like you said, it'll make me feel better knowing they look good back there.

Does drywall mud work well for you, I was going to use it under Duratex but read that it crumbles. You're not painting them though are you?



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