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post #211 of 939 Old 01-13-2017, 09:54 PM
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It looks like some people that have been planning on the HTM-12 now want the Titans instead. I'd play the devils advocate by stating that although the Titans sound better according to Matt, it also may be $200+ more per speaker depending on how much the Titan ends up being. Is it really worth the $600+ difference (LCR), especially if the HTM-12 is already adequate for the space?
I don't think it's just the lower cost that should sway people to the HTMs, it's what fits best for a persons room.

The HTM's and Titans and different speakers designed for different set ups. They weren't meant to be competing models, actually their designs were almost totally opposite. HTM's are in a small shallow cabinet, and light enough to actually hang on a wall, or sit on a small stand. No need to reach much under 60-70hz because of your subwoofers handle that. They can play very loud even when using an average receiver.

The Titan models on the other hand are large floor standing 3-ways and near full range for overkill even in the biggest home theaters.
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Would be very interesting comparison with JBL 3730
http://www.jblpro.com/www/products/c...way/3730#Specs

@mtg90 Is there a polar response ?

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These look rather compelling. I'm currently using and enjoying Fusion12s in LCR built in to my front wall, with the L and R in 45-degree-angled corners. If I can build a variant on this that will fit into the ~19" wide wall boxes... I think this might be just the ticket. I feel like I'd like a dedicated midrange.
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I know what your saying when we had just one 1099 playing mono along with rest these got bad press in the midbass region and were a tad bit bright bright but once I finished Mike D.'s 1099's and installed them behind my screen for a week and running Audy before he picked them up my initial opinion on the speakers just did a 180 and I loved them the mid bass was there and sounded great.
Now this we're it gets interesting when I heard the Titan-615 in mono it did have bass and a lot of midbass which reminded me of the JTR speaker right off the bat. I'm not going to compare those two speakers to each other but the Titan-615 so far has me really excited after hearing it and I haven't been this excited about a speaker in along time.
Reminded you of which JTR?
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Reminded you of which JTR?


Yes that's why I I'm excited about this. I know I haven't heard any music through the titan so maybe it's not right I post this but some of the movie clips had bass which was the reason why I asked Matt if he had any of his subs on. These speakers have the most amount of bass and midbass imo out of all the diysg speakers I've heard and sound great to. Again I only had 20-30 mins hearing them.

Once these are for sale on diysg And I build mine, I have a new GoPro hero 5 camera I'll record videos of them and post it.
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Yes that's why I I'm excited about this. I know I haven't heard any music through the titan so maybe it's not right I post this but some of the movie clips had bass which was the reason why I asked Matt if he had any of his subs on. These speakers have the most amount of bass and midbass imo out of all the diysg speakers I've heard and sound great to. Again I only had 20-30 mins hearing them.

Once these are for sale on diysg And I build mine, I have a new GoPro hero 5 camera I'll record videos of them and post it.
Which JTR model? 210RT/215RT/RM?
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Which JTR model? 210RT/215RT/RM?


I've only heard one model that Jeff brought over to my house. I'll take a look through my thread and see what model. It wasn't exact, JTR speakers are bad a$$ but the titan reminded me of it.

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I've only heard one model that Jeff brought over to my house. I'll take a look through my thread and see what model. It wasn't exact JTR speakers are bad a$$ but the titan reminded me of it.
That is awesome. If these had been out 9 months ago I would have likely tried them.

I am hoping @Samps builds them so I can hear them
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Lol, I'm certainly considering it. They don't really fit my needs, but if they live up to the hype it will be hard to pass up.

I would be more interested in a similar 3 way kit with maybe a 10" woofer and higher tune. I crossover at 120hz so midbass isn't needed. I want crystal clear vocals and great off axis response.
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Lol, I'm certainly considering it. They don't really fit my needs, but if they live up to the hype it will be hard to pass up.

I would be more interested in a similar 3 way kit with maybe a 10" woofer and higher tune. I crossover at 120hz so midbass isn't needed. I want crystal clear vocals and great off axis response.
Would you cross to subs right at 120hz?

Even crossing at 80hz using the 15's would be in incredible movies. I cross over to my 215RT's at 80hz for movies and then full range for music If these are tuned to 40hz you could do that too.
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This will be an ubercool speaker! I saw it on DIYSG yesterday and had to look twice whether the website wasn't hacked and a joker put a drawing on the homepage! Then reading these 8 pages...

This would definitely have been a contender if I knew it was going to surface as I really wanted a big three-way LCR. When I compare the cost and complexity of mine vs Titan (under $600!) it would have been hard to justify vs the probably small benefits is SQ and oomph.

What are the acoustical differences of a dual mid+tweeter horn vs a SEOS 24 with coaxial BMS? I have read on earlier pages here that it takes at least 10 ft (3m) to blend. Is that for mids and highs?

Also, what is the dispersion coverage?

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It doesnt take 3m to blend. I think people were saying the benefits of directivity like this speaker offers are most enjoyed/benefited at longer listening distances. Also the output ability is somewhat wasted at short distances.

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It doesnt take 3m to blend. I think people were saying the benefits of directivity like this speaker offers are most enjoyed/benefited at longer listening distances. Also the output ability is somewhat wasted at short distances.
What distance/length are we talking about?
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I would think everything is blended well by 2m.

Id check with Matt, but Id consider flipping the woofer cab upside down. That would then require a bit more distance but would help eliminate floor bounce and provide some floor loading to the woofer. 350hz XO is perfect for that. Certainly worth exploring. I go over this in more detail in my MBM thread. If something like that was done youd probably want 3m.

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It was tested with the woofer section flipped upside down and on it's side. It actually sounded better up towards the top.

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Oh ok. In that case the 350hz may be a little to high for that trick. Or another room may benefit from it more than another.

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So as I'm laying in bed last night, I hear a "crunch"... I pop my head up to look out the window, what do I see some asshat backing up from my truck...before I can get pants on to run outside he's gone...
Truck isn't even 3 weeks old yet.. 1100km..
Funny how life tells you, you don't need a speaker upgrade..

Ok.. Back to our regularly scheduled program.. I'll be drowning my sorrows in Submaximus "bliss" for the remainder of the day..
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So as I'm laying in bed last night, I hear a "crunch"... I pop my head up to look out the window, what do I see some asshat backing up from my truck...before I can get pants on to run outside he's gone...
Truck isn't even 3 weeks old yet.. 1100km..
Funny how life tells you, you don't need a speaker upgrade..

Ok.. Back to our regularly scheduled program.. I'll be drowning my sorrows in Submaximus "bliss" for the remainder of the day..
Oh man that suck's that's a brand new truck I would of been out of my mind seeing that. I think the only thing to get your mind off this terrible situation would be a new set of Titan-615's while the truck's in the body shop.
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So as I'm laying in bed last night, I hear a "crunch"... I pop my head up to look out the window, what do I see some asshat backing up from my truck...before I can get pants on to run outside he's gone...
Truck isn't even 3 weeks old yet.. 1100km..
Funny how life tells you, you don't need a speaker upgrade..

Ok.. Back to our regularly scheduled program.. I'll be drowning my sorrows in Submaximus "bliss" for the remainder of the day..
I say we assemble a DIYSG search party for a Big Mac Beatdown. This exceeds Asshat levels and is well engrained in the Douchenozzle levels.

Just thinking of all possibilities for you. File a PD report. If you have description of the vehicle (black pickup for example) make sure to put that in the report. Does your area or town have cameras for red lights, etc? Neighbors up or down the street have CCTV coverage? Just some thoughts that may help cuz that is awful. Then there's the decision of claim or not claim to Insurance. Best of luck my friend. Now go drown in SubMax world.
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I say we assemble a DIYSG search party for a Big Mac Beatdown. This exceeds Asshat levels and is well engrained in the Douchenozzle levels.

Just thinking of all possibilities for you. File a PD report. If you have description of the vehicle (black pickup for example) make sure to put that in the report. Does your area or town have cameras for red lights, etc? Neighbors up or down the street have CCTV coverage? Just some thoughts that may help cuz that is awful. Then there's the decision of claim or not claim to Insurance. Best of luck my friend. Now go drown in SubMax world.
Such a bummer about the truck.

That's the nice thing about Michigan. No fault insurance. Someone hits your car it's to your benefit they drive away and you have no idea who it was. Way less hassle. Your insurance is paying no matter what. No 3rd party to complicate things and slow down there process. No man hunt needed.
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Wow, sucks about the truck man. I imagine your deductible would buy you a Titan-615 or two. I once rolled a brand new car with 400 miles on it that had no insurance coverage (long story)...

These speakers have me really intrigued. I've known Erich before DIYSG was even a thing...got in on the "Big JBL Theater items for the DIY Guy" group buy he had and a few other deals as well (including the interesting BMS group buy). I've always wanted to support DIYSG but truth be told I have way too many speakers and couldn't quite rationalize where I'd use any of them.

My theater space (project) is pretty decent sized and I have Yorkville U15 Unity slated for the LCR but am still not sold that the single 15 in the Unity will give me the slam I'm looking for...was considering throwing 2 2226J's under each U15 but that adds a bit more complexity getting it all tuned properly. Have always liked the thought of horn-loaded mids as well...
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Really!? Wow. That's pretty great. In that case.... just Submaximate!
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Its design parameters and intent? How does it compare to the SEOS in tyipical 7' to 9' tall rooms? How does it do close to side walls ( within a 1' or 2') ?

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Wow, sucks about the truck man. I imagine your deductible would buy you a Titan-615 or two. I once rolled a brand new car with 400 miles on it that had no insurance coverage (long story)...

These speakers have me really intrigued. I've known Erich before DIYSG was even a thing...got in on the "Big JBL Theater items for the DIY Guy" group buy he had and a few other deals as well (including the interesting BMS group buy). I've always wanted to support DIYSG but truth be told I have way too many speakers and couldn't quite rationalize where I'd use any of them.

My theater space (project) is pretty decent sized and I have Yorkville U15 Unity slated for the LCR but am still not sold that the single 15 in the Unity will give me the slam I'm looking for...was considering throwing 2 2226J's under each U15 but that adds a bit more complexity getting it all tuned properly. Have always liked the thought of horn-loaded mids as well...
Your mids are horn loaded in the U15. Can you go with the U215 instead?
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My theater space (project) is pretty decent sized and I have Yorkville U15 Unity slated for the LCR but am still not sold that the single 15 in the Unity will give me the slam I'm looking for...was considering throwing 2 2226J's under each U15 but that adds a bit more complexity getting it all tuned properly. Have always liked the thought of horn-loaded mids as well...
The 15s in the unity speakers are great. I owned the U215s and they do not lack midbass slam what-so-ever. Never had the U15, but I wouldn't expect it to be much different.

I sold the U215s and the buyer also quickly moved on from them (he had JTR 212HTRs prior to the U215s).
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Your mids are horn loaded in the U15. Can you go with the U215 instead?
True. I have intimate knowledge of these things as one of the 5 I have arrived with a bad compression driver, so I had the pleasure of tearing it down to replace it.

The baffle wall will probably go a long way and shore up the midbass by 6 dB or so.

I do like what they do for HT speakers.
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The 15s in the unity speakers are great. I owned the U215s and they do not lack midbass slam what-so-ever. Never had the U15, but I wouldn't expect it to be much different.

I sold the U215s and the buyer also quickly moved on from them (he had JTR 212HTRs prior to the U215s).
Agreed; like them quite a bit...owned these for about 4 years but only have 2 or so months listening.

I've read many people's thoughts on the Yorkville Unity stuff (yours included), and the single woofer U15 is known to have noticeably less 'slam' than the double woofer U215. Baffle wall will definitely help, but the sub system is kind of a big deal with twenty 18's.
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Agreed; like them quite a bit...owned these for about 4 years but only have 2 or so months listening.

I've read many people's thoughts on the Yorkville Unity stuff (yours included), and the single woofer U15 is known to have noticeably less 'slam' than the double woofer U215. Baffle wall will definitely help, but the sub system is kind of a big deal with twenty 18's.
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