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Talking about woofers is boring though... I've lurked on AVS for nearly 20years, how many times and in how many ways can a person possibly say:
Electrons flow in, boom flows out.

As you already know, the only exciting part is when it arrives and the thing is measured and vids are made. The rest is just theory and words.
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Great article on ribs! Hope you don't smoke the 24 (thread tie in)
I was actually wondering if you could get the drivers hot enough to SMOKE the ribs without them tasting like chemical waste anyway....
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Bacon over charcoal is the food of Gods! The tinfoil pan is only for when the bacon is done. Bacon is put right on the grill and when it flames up you move it to the pan and back and forth until it's ready.



20lb Lasagna with Chorizo, ricotta and spinach is the norm around here. Cheese on top isn't melted cause it's cold out of the fridge.


made in an xlarge turkey roaster.


Sometimes we do a little ox tail stew.


...and once in a while when the there's no charcoal we do ribs on a gas grill. Half wet and half dry.



But there is always ketchup on a hot dog.


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Right or wrong, the reason for boiling (actually, simmering) ribs is to precook them before grilling, same idea as the reverse sear mentioned above. Better to slow cook them in the oven, or get a grill that cooks low and slow.
Yes. 275 for a couple hours covered and meat side down followed by open roasting with bbq sauce etc or on grill but honestly in oven is good unless you're actually gonna smoke them and then all this goes out the window. Did some t bones in oven for 10 mins at 275 and then pan seared. Was good and got great feedback.

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24" 3500w RMS $254

Dry ribs only here. Only prep I do is small trimming, covered in my secret rub (salt, pepper, paprika, cayenne) and letting them warm up room temp before I throw them in the smoker. Only time I check for temp is the first hour to see if they got to temp fast enough and take them off when I first start getting pull back.

Brisket though I'll finish in the oven. 8 hours of smoking and 4+ in the oven depending on size. I'll chop up my left over bacon ends and slather the brisket in them for the oven portion. The bacon ends are usually what disappear first.


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Bacon over charcoal is the food of Gods! The tinfoil pan is only for when the bacon is done. Bacon is put right on the grill and when it flames up you move it to the pan and back and forth until it's ready.

where do you live and why aren't we friends lol.

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Bacon over charcoal is the food of Gods! The tinfoil pan is only for when the bacon is done. Bacon is put right on the grill and when it flames up you move it to the pan and back and forth until it's ready.



20lb Lasagna with Chorizo, ricotta and spinach is the norm around here. Cheese on top isn't melted cause it's cold out of the fridge.


made in an xlarge turkey roaster.


Sometimes we do a little ox tail stew.


...and once in a while when the there's no charcoal we do ribs on a gas grill. Half wet and half dry.



But there is always ketchup on a hot dog.


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XL BGE for when we get serious.
What kind of cap is that on the Egg? I cook on the bge about 5 nights a week. Does that mean I'm serious a lot?
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It's about lunch time on the West Coast, yo!

Bacon cheeseburger is on the menu today. And chili fries.

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any of you guys ever try this smoker? its one of my best purchases ever..i love smoked food but i sucked at it.never could quite get it right...a buddy of mine turned me on to this one..fill it with charcoal, add some wood chips on the inside, set it and forget it...3 to 3 1/2 hours later I got a boston butt falling off the bone..this thing is amazing..wifey said we will never buy smoked food from the local BBQ places again.

figured i would throw my 2 cents in since we were off topic.....figured it could help some select few of us who liked smoked food but wasnt good at it.


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Talking about woofers is boring though... I've lurked on AVS for nearly 20years, how many times and in how many ways can a person possibly say:
Electrons flow in, boom flows out.

As you already know, the only exciting part is when it arrives and the thing is measured and vids are made. The rest is just theory and words.
Boom? What about the those house shaking infrasonics man?
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What kind of cap is that on the Egg? I cook on the bge about 5 nights a week. Does that mean I'm serious a lot?
I'd say yes. lol

Here is the link to the manufacturer. You can also get them from Amazon.
It's very well made.
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They finally said the woofer is built.
(I assume shipping happens next... LOL!)

If I take the T/S parameters of the SI-24 and add more coil mass and a higher inductance, while keeping the cone area identical, it basically makes a slightly lower tuned woofer with more roll-off above 100hz. Which is pretty much what I'm expecting.

I expect this thing to be quite an energy pig being a 5inch VC. That's an inch larger than the LMS-18 which is already piggish.
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They finally said the woofer is built.
(I assume shipping happens next... LOL!)

If I take the T/S parameters of the SI-24 and add more coil mass and a higher inductance, while keeping the cone area identical, it basically makes a slightly lower tuned woofer with more roll-off above 100hz. Which is pretty much what I'm expecting.

I expect this thing to be quite an energy pig being a 5inch VC. That's an inch larger than the LMS-18 which is already piggish.
The motor itself is actually quite efficient on the LMS. mms on the LMS isn't too terrible around 550g, it's high, but not the worst in the pack. Hc on the lms is almost 4" tall, that coupled with the 4" dia and the aluminum cone is why it's heavy. It's the weight that makes it inefficient, not so much the diameter.
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As a rule diameter increases efficiency, as perusing any driver catalog will show.
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As a rule diameter increases efficiency, as perusing any driver catalog will show.
Higher radiation resistance, better power transfer from the diaphragm to air as the driver diameter goes up, at low frequencies.
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Higher radiation resistance, better power transfer from the diaphragm to air as the driver diameter goes up, at low frequencies.
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Since the force factor is based on the B field and the length of wire in the gap, larger diameter, longer coil wind is more wire length, although typically the gauge of wire is made larger at the same time.

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I name this sub the: 5024MOQ.

Even the Matterhorn has met its widow-maker.
25 FP14k's only seems logical here.

It definitely proves once and for all that: Never Enough Bass = false
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Thoughts from JL: Just snagged a brisket today, guess I'm posting pics now Monday? Waded through after not keeping up with after the first page and had many lols. My two different subwoofer drivers are FTW21's (many answered emails with Mark, drivers work great) and SI18HT's so what does this make me? Bought tri tip roast today. I am a big time experienced steak/meat (medium rare) cooker/smoker. Certainly love a thick steak but I stumbled across this: a tri tip roast in freezer for 5-6 hrs, pull out then thin slice. Easier to cut this way, little firm but not frozen. Season with garlic salt and cracked black pepper, juice with some liquid teriyaki. Needs to chill for at least a few hrs then jack the grill up on high heat/sear. If using a gas grill throw a couple big chunks of mesquite on there as it must have smoke. I use a thick sweet teriyaki with sesame seeds in it basting/painting each side at least 4 times. After a nice extra browning and thickening/gumming of the sauce throw over some rice with whatever sides you want. I like to sauté cabbage, mushrooms, peepers with garlic salt/pepper. But the meat turns out almost like a teriyaki jerky but using tri tip makes it tender enough it avoids being chewy for well done beef. Seems like blasphemy I know but don't knock it till you try it!

Have a pulled pork rub recipe that is plain stupid. First bite melts you off your chair (literally) and super easy really, just takes a day in the brine and 10-12 hrs on smoker, totally worth it and cheap meat too!
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If I take the T/S parameters of the SI-24 and add more coil mass and a higher inductance, while keeping the cone area identical, it basically makes a slightly lower tuned woofer with more roll-off above 100hz. Which is pretty much what I'm expecting.

I expect this thing to be quite an energy pig being a 5inch VC. That's an inch larger than the LMS-18 which is already piggish.
What was the final shipping quote?
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