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Volt-10 LX Edition Atmos build

Here's my Volt-10 LX Edition Atmos build. I wanted something shallow for my narrow theater and decided these would fit the bill. If they didn't work I'd still have decent speakers I could use for rears or atmos. I originally was going to paint them flat black, for the sake of a dark theater, but since they are off to the sides their color is less important. Plus, they are very noticeable being white which hopefully lessens the chance of knocking into one of them by accident.

I've included a REW chart from early testing before any EQing and run in an untreated room. I ran each speaker separately in the identical position. Should I be concerned with that difference from 450 to 700 hz where one speaker is about 3-4 dbs lower? Is there anything obvious that could have caused it like poor seal, a difference in fiberfill, a messed up crossover, or should I just wait for them to break-in and do another test?

As far as sound quality goes...I think they sound good...great? I'm not an audio expert, but I'm not disappointed. I've heard bad speakers (boomy or boxy) and these are not bad. They fit in fine with my Frankenstein theater of Klipsch, B212XL's, and Monoprice...all compression driver speakers.

And one odd note is that Audyssey set the crossover on the Volts at a very low 40Hz where the small atmos box (I used the same dimensions as the flat packs) is supposed to only reach to 80Hz. I manually changed them to 80Hz to match the other speakers anyway, but I thought that was odd they'd go that low being sealed and mounted right up against a wall.
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The dip in frequenzy response is most likely a room problem that can only be fixed with speaker placement and/or acoustical treatments.

But you can always swap the speakers and measure again to eliminate a speaker issue.

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Nice build, may I know what radius of that roundover you used?
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The dip in frequenzy response is most likely a room problem that can only be fixed with speaker placement and/or acoustical treatments.

But you can always swap the speakers and measure again to eliminate a speaker issue.
I measured each speaker separately from the same speaker position and the same mic position.

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Nice build, may I know what radius of that roundover you used?
3/8" roundover bit.
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Always good to see nice clean tight work

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Always good to see nice clean tight work

Enjoy!
Thanks. They're not quite perfect though....a few more coats and more sanding is in store, but listening to them for now trumps looking at them.

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Volts in white satin
I'm hoping to blend
Speakers I'm sanding
Never seeming to end

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Yes I love you
Oh how I love you

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Nice build. I just opened the shipping box on my Volt-6's, and was pleasantly surprised at how beefy they were. I bet the 10 is a pretty imposing speaker in person. These Volts probably don't get the credit they deserve, because they look so unimposing in the small boxes, but they seem like great quality speakers. I'd guess that being wall mounted helped give them some low end, which might explain Audyssey, but it's nice to know they could play low if needed.
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Nice build. I just opened the shipping box on my Volt-6's, and was pleasantly surprised at how beefy they were. I bet the 10 is a pretty imposing speaker in person. These Volts probably don't get the credit they deserve, because they look so unimposing in the small boxes, but they seem like great quality speakers. I'd guess that being wall mounted helped give them some low end, which might explain Audyssey, but it's nice to know they could play low if needed.
i agree with that..i was surprised how beefy they actually were..

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Nice build. I just opened the shipping box on my Volt-6's, and was pleasantly surprised at how beefy they were. I bet the 10 is a pretty imposing speaker in person. These Volts probably don't get the credit they deserve, because they look so unimposing in the small boxes, but they seem like great quality speakers. I'd guess that being wall mounted helped give them some low end, which might explain Audyssey, but it's nice to know they could play low if needed.
I don't know...every Volt review I've read including the 6's and 8's have been glowing. I'm considering more in the future, but ported this time. (Use the sealed for Atmos and ported for surround.)

I didn't know wall mounting could help with the bottom end.

Watched the Spielberg movie "War Horse" for the first time last night expecting to be impressed with the bass, but was more impressed with the surround effects particularly the surround Volt-10LX's. The Behringer B212xl's in the rear also sounded nice...I usually don't hear the rears much. This movie must have an especially good sound mix.
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Nice looking, how do you hang/mount it on the ceiling?
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Nice looking, how do you hang/mount it on the ceiling?
They're not being used for atmos / ceiling...just as surrounds.

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I don't know...every Volt review I've read including the 6's and 8's have been glowing. I'm considering more in the future, but ported this time. (Use the sealed for Atmos and ported for surround.)

I didn't know wall mounting could help with the bottom end.
You're right, they do get great reviews... Maybe what I was trying to say is that they get pigeonholed as surround/atmos speakers, when they can make great mains for smaller setups too.

I think wall mounting (or placing against the wall) can add some boundary reinforcement in the lower octaves, but don't quote me on that.

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The main selling point for coax speakers like the Volt 10s is Atmos, IMO, due to their point-source like nature which results in better imaging. Of course that should apply for traditional stereo / 7.1 as well, it just seems weird to not go Atmos with these. Although they are definitely pretty big for height speakers!

Also it would likely be better to have angled enclosures for the ceiling speakers so the drivers can be aimed at the main listening position.

Terrific looking enclosures btw, love the white satin look (although again, for home theater black everything is ideal, especially if placing these behind an AT screen. White would reflect light back at the viewer unless there were many layers of fabric)
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Here's my Volt-10 LX Edition Atmos build. I wanted something shallow for my narrow theater and decided these would fit the bill. If they didn't work I'd still have decent speakers I could use for rears or atmos. I originally was going to paint them flat black, for the sake of a dark theater, but since they are off to the sides their color is less important. Plus, they are very noticeable being white which hopefully lessens the chance of knocking into one of them by accident.

I've included a REW chart from early testing before any EQing and run in an untreated room. I ran each speaker separately in the identical position. Should I be concerned with that difference from 450 to 700 hz where one speaker is about 3-4 dbs lower? Is there anything obvious that could have caused it like poor seal, a difference in fiberfill, a messed up crossover, or should I just wait for them to break-in and do another test?

As far as sound quality goes...I think they sound good...great? I'm not an audio expert, but I'm not disappointed. I've heard bad speakers (boomy or boxy) and these are not bad. They fit in fine with my Frankenstein theater of Klipsch, B212XL's, and Monoprice...all compression driver speakers.

And one odd note is that Audyssey set the crossover on the Volts at a very low 40Hz where the small atmos box (I used the same dimensions as the flat packs) is supposed to only reach to 80Hz. I manually changed them to 80Hz to match the other speakers anyway, but I thought that was odd they'd go that low being sealed and mounted right up against a wall.
Did you put a window pane brace inside as instructed in here? https://www.diysoundgroup.com/volt-10.html
I am trying to build these but dont understand how to put the braze as described in that link.

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Did you put a window pane brace inside as instructed in here? https://www.diysoundgroup.com/volt-10.html
I am trying to build these but dont understand how to put the braze as described in that link.

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I did not add a brace. I made my own boxes...if you get the flatpacks the braces should be included ..they were with my titans flatpack.


Edit: The DIYSG site states "No brace is needed for the angled surround design" and I built the even smaller atmos box so it should not be required. If you are porting I guess that's a different story.

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Volt make some of the best drivers in the business so not at all surprised you were impressed, some beautifully crafted boxes you have there..... really nice work.

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Volt make some of the best drivers in the business so not at all surprised you were impressed, some beautifully crafted boxes you have there..... really nice work.

Thanks! Actually they are black now.
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