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I don't need any more.

But I WANT more.

What to do???
Use my method of reasoning for purchasing...

Do I want them? - Yes
Do I need them? well all we really need is food and water....and speakers...- Yes
Do I have the extra money for them? - Yes
Can I manipulate my mind into thinking I deserve them? - Yes
Do I only live once? - Yes
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I have stopped after 12.

Got 4 under the screen and 4 left and 4 right.
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I have stopped after 12.

Got 4 under the screen and 4 left and 4 right.
Good deal.

I'm thinking that 18 is the magic number. Michael, god bless him, posted the notion of hanging 9 of these off of one amp channel for a load of 4ohms. So 18 of them will take up my iNuke. 18 of them should cover the back of my one row of 4 seats quite nicely. I plan on building a bar behind the seats. JBLs on one side facing the seats, with stools with a footrest on the other side.

After that, I think I'm done
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I bought 5 with my main bestbuy account. Then I made a second account with my secondary email and bought 5. Had my SO order 5, then her sister ordered 5. I'm still waiting to see if they catch on that I bought them with 2 separate email accounts...
Thanks bud. I just ordered two more through the same online login but chose "pick up" this time. The order went through so we'll see what happens.
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Came here to let everyone know they are back on sale for $30 but someone beat me to it. I have 20 on the way. I'm going to put 16 in an infinite baffle, coming up through the floor from the basement. Winisd says it's not a good infinite baffle sub, but it changes it's mind when you put 16 into the simulation lol. I'll make a post of me cutting holes in the floor next month. Winisd says 110db @ 10hz, 125db @ 20hz, 130db @ 30hz, and a ridiculous 140db at 50hz lol.
I was going to use the Fi IB318's but after your post and some Winisd moding, I am going with two manifolds of six and looks like there will be more output then the two Fi's I was going to go with.

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I was going to use the Fi IB318's but after your post and some Winisd moding, I am going with two manifolds of six and looks like there will be more output then the two Fi's I was going to go with.
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After that, I think I'm done
Yeah, Chris has said that once or twice, too.

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I have lost count of where I'm at.

Dozen behind couch: 12
Four in computer room: 16
fifteen in boxes in office closet: 31
7 in boxes on shelf in living room: 38
6-8 (I think) in boxes behind L side of couch: 44-46
4 more just ordered: 48-50

So I guess I'm near 50 of them, total. Not all will be in the same system, not sure if that still "counts", but it's certainly a lot of those little orange JBL stickers to put on co-workers desks/laptops/nalgene containers/etc. when no one is looking.

Should be sufficient for my plans, a couple spares, and maybe even juice up the computer room a little.
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I have lost count of where I'm at.

Dozen behind couch: 12
Four in computer room: 16
fifteen in boxes in office closet: 31
7 in boxes on shelf in living room: 38
6-8 (I think) in boxes behind L side of couch: 44-46
4 more just ordered: 48-50

So I guess I'm near 50 of them, total. Not all will be in the same system, not sure if that still "counts", but it's certainly a lot of those little orange JBL stickers to put on co-workers desks/laptops/nalgene containers/etc. when no one is looking.

Should be sufficient for my plans, a couple spares, and maybe even juice up the computer room a little.
Makes it easier to build boxes to. Just take a full sheet of MDF and start routing holes lol....

You can get of 3 rows of 7 per sheet, but if you bump it down for spacing to 3 rows of 6......... then you get two perfect squares of 9 per sheet, with some spacing side to side and top to bottom for adequate bracing..... a single amp to power both sides and your golden.

That or you run 16 total, wire in sets of 4 and run 4 channels of amplification to em lol...... thats what I was gonna do, though buying 3 more sometime so I COULD run 2 perfect squares seems intriguing..... just not sure that possibility is plausible enough to spend the money....

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Amp Wise I currently have 6 crown xls1502's and 2 xls2502's. I need two of them for the office (mains plus whatever sub I run). If I use a single 1502 for the mains that leaves me with 2 xls2502's and 3 xls1502's for living room bass. I was thinking 3x3 on the 2502's. I may need a couple more 1502's or another 2502. I could probably get by with a 1502 on 3x3 for the nearfield ones since they need so much less power vs farfield. For now def getting 18 going up front asap. and figure it out from there. I can pretty much do what I want placement wise, working with the space I have available, so maybe a mid-wall one too. Could probably even stack two for a 1x6 in the corner haha. It's going to be like the most fun set of legos ever.
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You should just do two columns straight up the wall, continue it in the ceiling and then down the back wall lol...

Subs as racing stripes is what you could call it lol


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Or alternately, make them a border around the walls like wainscoting
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I don't need any more.

But I WANT more.

What to do???
I will have 24 total, I only need 16. Some for spare, some for the his/hers gaming room, maybe some for the car? I don't know, they're so cheap haha. I was also thinking of doing a pair of volts or HT-6 for a 2.1 setup in the kitchen, and maybe another for the garage.
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I just cant imagine. My 8 are still putting a smile on my face. The only thing I can think to do is add 4 more just so I have 12 across my whole front wall lol. Maybe its my small sealed room but hey, small sealed rooms keep stuff cheap.

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Ok guys, I've been following this thread with some interest. Since they're back on sale I've dipped my little toe in the water, and ordered nine.

This should be fun. (Evil laughter)

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I picked up one of these yesterday...been waiting for months to get it at this price.
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OSince they're back on sale I've dipped my little toe in the water, and ordered nine.
You've got a pretty decent sized little toe

How will you use 9? Just curious. The odd number doesn't lend it self to symmetric placement in the room.
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How will you use 9? Just curious. The odd number doesn't lend it self to symmetric placement in the room.
With two pairs on each side (forward pop outs)or I might just do a magic square of all 9 behind the screen (false wall, plenty of room).

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I might just do a magic square of all 9 behind the screen (false wall, plenty of room).
And another nine nearfield (plenty of room).

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And another nine nearfield (plenty of room).

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Well, I do have a pair of 18" Dayton HO's nearfield currently...

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Very nice room! My setup is very similar; one row of seats, A-frame with knee-walls. I bet the nine up front will work great. And of course, the other nine right behind you.
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I've been trying to decide what to power them with...I've got crown XLS1502's on the Dayton's but since this is a budget play, I am thinking an NX6k and just use one channel. It never hurts to have more capacity...any other opinions?

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I've been trying to decide what to power them with...I've got crowns XLS1502's on the Dayton's but since this is a budget play, I am thinking an NX6k and just use one channel. It never hurts to have more capacity...any other opinions?

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That's what I'd do. Run your 9 off of one channel of a 6000. Then you've got a spare channel for the "back nine"
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What do you guys think is the max of these I could run with an iNuke NU3000? I've got four currently, but I'm itching for more. It's a tiny room so I don't necessarily need a ton more SPL, I just want to dig a bit deeper and get more tactile impact.
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Well... when you add more you gain some sensitivity. If you want them to go deeper you'll need more boost, which is more power. If you want to keep the iNuke at 4 ohms, you can run:

1
4
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16
25
etc

The most I'd probably run on one amp of that size is 16, which will give you somewhere north of 100 watts per driver if you believe it can do that (~2000 watts bridged into 4 ohms). That's a lot of cone area and a solid upgrade from 4 drivers. Do it!
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Well... when you add more you gain some sensitivity. If you want them to go deeper you'll need more boost, which is more power. If you want to keep the iNuke at 4 ohms, you can run:

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The most I'd probably run on one amp of that size is 16, which will give you somewhere north of 100 watts per driver if you believe it can do that (~2000 watts bridged into 4 ohms). That's a lot of cone area and a solid upgrade from 4 drivers. Do it!

I guess I could probably figure this out on my own by drawing it out, but why 9 instead of 8? Right now I have two double boxes wired in series and then paralleled to a single bridged terminal. I figured I could add two more boxes stacked on the existing ones and maintain a 4 ohm load?
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9 gets you to 4 ohms. Put three woofers in parallel, three times, you get three triples each 1.33 ohms. Put those stacks of three in series with each other and you're back to 4 ohms. That's why people call it the "magic square", same number in series as in parallel.

4 woofers: (two squared) two in series, two sets in parallel (or vice versa): 4 ohms
9 woofers: (three squared) three in series, three sets in parallel (or vice versa): 4 ohms
16 woofers: (four squared)
25 woofers: (five squared)
etc.

If you do eight 4 ohm speakers, your options are 2 ohms or 8 ohms, or (two 4 ohm loads... which bridged amplifier wise is same as one 8 ohm load).

Right now you have 4 ohms. If you add two more on your existing boxes you'll have 8 ohms (or 2, which you can't run).

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It seems the obvious answer here is to upgrade this system to a 6000, run 2x4 at 4 ohms, and use the spare 3000 as an excuse to build a pair of 15s or 18s for my living room....
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Just bought two more (8 unused total). Like some here I'm just stocking up for a future project. Maybe bombard my theater with all sealed 4 18's and 16 12's?
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