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Small Sub for music only.

I have a utility room that I do work in. I got a small digital amplifier with Bluetooth and a pair of cheap Dayton bookshelf speakers with ribbon tweeters. It actually sounds pretty good. I want to add a subwoofer for music only. I bought a Dayton, refurbished 10" sub and it sounded awful, very sloppy. I sent it back.

I think I' like to build a small sealed sub with a plate amp. Are there any builds out there that meet this criteria.

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I have a utility room that I do work in. I got a small digital amplifier with Bluetooth and a pair of cheap Dayton bookshelf speakers with ribbon tweeters. It actually sounds pretty good. I want to add a subwoofer for music only. I bought a Dayton, refurbished 10" sub and it sounded awful, very sloppy. I sent it back.

I think I' like to build a small sealed sub with a plate amp. Are there any builds out there that meet this criteria.

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Lots of builds with Infinity 1260, 1262 drivers. Some also use the JBL CS1214 and CX1200 drivers (if you can find them). Even just a standard 1.2 - 2.0cf box with a plate amp would work well. DIYSoundGroup flatpacks for the box, Parts Express for the plate amp.... the forum for the drivers.

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whats your budget? This kit looks solid, pretty pricey though.

https://www.parts-express.com/dayton...r-kit--300-766
The budget is cheap! It is a workshop sub.
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Small ported with a Dayton HO 10 or 12 or Infinity 1260/2 and a BASH300 amp. Tuned to about 25 Hz? Cheap, good amp with the built in 18 Hz HPF. That should work nicely!

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The budget is cheap! It is a workshop sub.
That isn't a real answer. Cheap to some is $1000, cheap to you may be $100. But you are far better off buying something prebuilt. You aren't gunna be able to build something with a real plate amp for under $400 probably. Try looking at some cheap subs on the Subwoofer forum, there is a guide there for cheap subs.
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That isn't a real answer. Cheap to some is $1000, cheap to you may be $100. But you are far better off buying something prebuilt. You aren't gunna be able to build something with a real plate amp for under $400 probably. Try looking at some cheap subs on the Subwoofer forum, there is a guide there for cheap subs.
I can get a sub for 199 that will sound poor. Or I can buy parts for 199 that will sound a lot better. I don't know the market. Buy it is for music. I don't need 20 hz

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I can get a sub for 199 that will sound poor. Or I can buy parts for 199 that will sound a lot better. I don't know the market. Buy it is for music. I don't need 20 hz


Is $200 your budget? And what amp are you using?


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I guess the point is I don't know. I want to get a decent sub for music for my workshop.

Here is a plate amp for $124
https://www.parts-express.com/dayton...ifier--300-803
Here is a driver for $85
https://www.parts-express.com/dayton...4-ohm--295-204
Here is a box for $63
http://www.diysoundgroup.com/sealed-...flat-pack.html

If I put that together I get what? I have no idea. I am looking for a bang for the buck build. My understanding has always been that DIY is a better value, I am looking to capitalize on that value.
My budget is $250, what can I do for $250?

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They don’t have WinISD on a phone yet, but I do t see why that combo won’t work. But I think you’d be better off getting a pro sub and port it.

Dayton has some cheap options that are really good.


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How big can the sub box be? I agree that a pro sub would be better. You only need 35hz for something like this. A Dayton PA 15" in a small ported cab would work, but you would have to build the box.
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So take this with a grain of salt... I'm new here in the forums and in builds, but I've been reading a lot on these and the parts express forums. With those Dayton b652 airs (I've got the regular b652 in my office) it doesn't sound like you need a big sub for a small area.

Now big to me is the sub I plan on building, a micro Marty with a 15" subwoofer (got the parts in my garage) So that gets me thrown out of here right away!

Why not take a look at carmody's voxel sub? It's tiny by the standards here, but might be worth a look at. *note I haven't heard this, but it gets good reviews on the PE forums.


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Again, I recommend just buying something prebuilt. Something like this:

https://www.amazon.com/Bic-Acoustech...ords=subwoofer
I'm in the same boat as the OP and have been eyballing that sub. Just how "musical" is it? Someone mentioned in another thread that the BIC's are mostly a 50Hz thumper.
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http://www.outlawaudio.com/products/m8.html I know it's not diy, but I was looking at outlaw's site last night and was checking out some of their subs. Looks decent.

Diy kit here might be better https://www.parts-express.com/dayton...ndle--300-7090
A guy in the reviews said he liked this plate amp with it https://www.parts-express.com/yung-s...boost--301-508 Should be under 300 all finished.

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I'm in the same boat as the OP and have been eyballing that sub. Just how "musical" is it? Someone mentioned in another thread that the BIC's are mostly a 50Hz thumper.
As with any cheap sub it’s gunna be a little bloated in the 40-80 the range. For music I don’t mind but I love everything bass heavy and don’t really care how ‘accurate’ it is. For $250 it’s hard to beat, but I’m pretty sure it goes even cheaper than that sometimes. The sub1500 from parts express may be a better option too.
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Hey, thanks for the pointer! That Dayton sounds great for under two bones. I've pulled the trigger on one and fingers crossed it gets here before the weekend.

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How about the plate amp you listed, a PA460 driver for $90-$100 and build a sealed 2-3 ft^3 box from a sheet of MDF for $50 or whatever it runs


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I recommend the most expensive B&C BMS or Eminence that you can afford, and port it at whatever.

or a PA-460 and an inuke1000dsp

or https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/B1200DPRO
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1 PA 460 $90
1 200 watt plate amp $99
1 sheet MDF $30
For less than $250 you will be rocking the house. Port this one ar 35-40hz to let it really shine.
You can port to 20hz just fine but the driver will start falling off below 30hz. It more than make up for it above 50hz.
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@Raylon thanks for the pointer. The Dayton came in today and it's doing good.
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