Originally Posted by Erich H
I don't think you've given much info here on how the speakers are going to be used though. Seating distance, how loud do you listen, subwoofers, second row of seating, etc.
Oh, I thought I did, maybe I am mixing threads. Dedicated treated room, ~15.5' x 27.5' x 9', 4' deep area behind false screen wall, speakers in there behind a 138" wide 2.39:1 AT screen on top of two subs, with two rows of seating (I always sit in the front row, slightly right of center - 4th recliner arriving soon). Running 13 speaker surround sound with 4 18" LLTs tuned ~12.5hz crossed over at 80hz. Mains are Boston Acoustics VR3s, all others on the floor are VR1s, and the 4 in ceilings are Boston Hsi 460s. The LCR will be powered by an Onkyo TX-NR3010 with Audyssey MultiEQ XT32. The two receivers powering all the speakers have their own dedicated 20 amp run, the two Carvin amps for the Avalanche 18 LLTs have their own 20 amp run, and the inuke6000 for the SI HT18 LLTs has its own 20 amp line.
I sit ~13' from the L&R and 12' from the center. I use the room for movies and music, 60:40. I watch movies at no louder than -10, and music just varies, every recording is different. I tailor all the sound for the front row, the back row is an afterthought for guests. The floor is floating on the slab with high density foam, 2x4s, and 3/4" OSB.
Originally Posted by RoboAVS
This is a bit over the top. You assume there is a best and dont consider reality.
The room makes a bigger difference than the speaker. Ive seen your threads before and think you know this but you still persist in suggesting there is a best.
What if someone has an untreated small room? Good luck finding any speaker that sounds great. Those that hate Klipsch have not heard them in a treated room. Klipsch is a top brand and the "harsh" titanium tweeters are nothing of the sort properly placed in the right room.
The largest offering is not best in most rooms...it is merely what satisfies the natural inclination to wonder what if.
I'm not asking about someone with a small untreated room though, and I'm not asking about a computer speaker on a desk. In a medium sized treated room, there will be a sound quality difference between say the waveguide on the midwoofer of the Titan and the dual horizontal mids of the 1299. We don't need to keep discussing weird what if's to deflect the question, I understand they are all of high quality and we don't want to diminish any of the designers - that's clearly not my intent. If we can't get past that "but what if" and "every room is different" stage and at least discuss some of the technical merits of the different designs in a relative way, then I'll just let it die.
Originally Posted by tential
I'm just confused here.
You have no restrictions.
Why would you bring up the Titan 15 when there is a Titan 15 LX?
To me it would be CLEAR you'd want the LX model from your posts, so I feel like I missed something.
I'm just confused since it'd be clear to me to spend the extra $100 on the LX model for the better CD after you specifically seemed to want the best quality CD you can get.
No worries, I meant the Titan 15LX, just didn't type the full name. I wouldn't skimp out over better drivers for $100. I do a lot of posting from my phone, so speed and ease takes priority.
Originally Posted by tential
Although since you said you want the best, that has to be the Intrusive 1899. If you have no restrictions, I really don't see how it's much of a discussion/debate. I feel like you have a lot of reservations on the quality of the Intrusive 1899(or any speakers for that matter).
I'm not convinced the 1899 is the best for sound quality. What are the crossover frequencies? Am I going to get much use out of the 18s, or am I better off crossing slightly higher to a 12" or 15". I'm not keen of the idea of a built in midbass hump below 300hz. The Titan has the waveguide for the mid, the 1899 does not - supposedly the key ingredient to all of the DIYSG designs is the SEOS waveguide, and they both share the same 15" SEOS waveguide for the cd, but only the Titan has one for the mid. So from my current point of view, the Titan should theoretically have the best sound quality.
If any of my posts are coming off as standoffish I apologize, not my intent. Just trying to narrow the field down because I can't do listening tests with 5 different designs. I'm getting some PMs with people being more direct on which sounds the best, so I appreciate that.