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They said the fp10k is $575 and the fp14k is $565.
Shipping and PayPal fee is extra.
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They said the fp10k is $575 and the fp14k is $565.
Shipping and PayPal fee is extra.
Might as well buy FP20ks... I don't even care if you need the power... do it

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Prices like that would make it much easier to try. Can Notnyt test a 240vac version or no?
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Prices like that would make it much easier to try. Can Notnyt test a 240vac version or no?
Last I heard his rig is only set up to test 120V and he's not interesting in testing 240v

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Last I heard his rig is only set up to test 120V and he's not interesting in testing 240v
I thought so but wasnt sure. And these prices from China are crazy. 10Q would probably be a better option for me but we still need a reliable 10Q or 20Q option.

What are you going t be using the 20Q on BTH?
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Only 120v is available at my bench. I'm not sure I have a long enough extension cord to easily be able to test 240v. I have one for my welder, but it needs to be about 25 feet. I'll check later.
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Thanks, I ended up buying tooling for my machine shop.

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I thought so but wasnt sure. And these prices from China are crazy. 10Q would probably be a better option for me but we still need a reliable 10Q or 20Q option.

What are you going t be using the 20Q on BTH?
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I was thinking the 4 LMS-18's @4ohm and the SAB-24 @ 2-ohms.
I was told not to put a 2 ohm load on the fp20k.

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I thought so but wasnt sure. And these prices from China are crazy. 10Q would probably be a better option for me but we still need a reliable 10Q or 20Q option.

What are you going t be using the 20Q on BTH?
You could already get a 10Q? He has a FP20k. If you're saying you think his amp is an option(and are not talking about the DSP models), just get it. Don't get some smaller amp.

Big amps big amps!

You never know how much power it will actually put out. That's why you need the largest amplifier in the line up always. We have a bigger amplifier. Don't get the smaller one. What if the larger one comes by and eats yours?
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Only 120v is available at my bench. I'm not sure I have a long enough extension cord to easily be able to test 240v. I have one for my welder, but it needs to be about 25 feet. I'll check later.
Easily fixable. Go to HW store buy 4 gang plastic box, one 20a 120v socket and one 240v socket, and a custom length 50a 4-conductor cable and dryer socket plug. Done!

120v and 240v to the bench upwards of 50a (or whatever breaker u got.)

240v is two hots and a ground.
120v is one hot one neutral and a ground.
Hence the 4-conductor cable.
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You could already get a 10Q? He has a FP20k. If you're saying you think his amp is an option(and are not talking about the DSP models), just get it. Don't get some smaller amp.

Big amps big amps!

You never know how much power it will actually put out. That's why you need the largest amplifier in the line up always. We have a bigger amplifier. Don't get the smaller one. What if the larger one comes by and eats yours?
I was more along the lines saying have we found a 10Q that can be bought that is as reliable as the FP14k?

20Q sounds nice but I dont want to be a ginnie pig right now. If in a couple of months it deems itself ok I may take the chance but I would just send it to Notnyt then. He can test it for all to see and then take it from there. I hope it is easily modded regarding fans as the others have been. No biggie but would be nice. And this is just an idea as I dont really need anything like this. The 10Q would be over kill but we will see. Not in a rush for anything. PLUS looking at the Fusion amps also a first purchase.
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The 20k is 46lbs according to FedEx (that includes the box I'd imagine.)
It's one of the heaviest burst amps around because it has so much stuff jammed into it.

From the video it looked like the fans that xbs uses are about half as loud as the stock Sanway fans.
I won't know for sure until I power it up and pump some bass.

I've pushed my Sanway fp14k and fp10k pretty hard (dual 2-ohm and quad 2-ohm on occasion) and I've never heard the fans go beyond half rpm at most, most of the time they are at their idle rpm...
Not a single problem in all the years since I bought them. (They are the newest 2-ohm stable versions.)
Not the older 4-ohm version that NotNyt had when his thread was first created. Mine are like 1 year newer, or whatever.
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I was more along the lines saying have we found a 10Q that can be bought that is as reliable as the FP14k?

20Q sounds nice but I dont want to be a ginnie pig right now. If in a couple of months it deems itself ok I may take the chance but I would just send it to Notnyt then. He can test it for all to see and then take it from there. I hope it is easily modded regarding fans as the others have been. No biggie but would be nice. And this is just an idea as I dont really need anything like this. The 10Q would be over kill but we will see. Not in a rush for anything. PLUS looking at the Fusion amps also a first purchase.
Lol, I'm still confused, because there is no 20Q. That was my point. It's the FP20k.

Q denotes the DSP models, which we aren't talking about?
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Lol, I'm still confused, because there is no 20Q. That was my point. It's the FP20k.

Q denotes the DSP models, which we aren't talking about?
LOL, sorry about that. Thinking Q was four channel and not DSP. Now I know.
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LOL, sorry about that. Thinking Q was four channel and not DSP. Now I know.
No, I could be wrong too. I was just confused as to what you meant. I think Q could be Quad channel. I just wasn't sure if you meant DSP model or not.

Edit: Ya, it's the D/DSP models. Q is Q channel. D/DSP are the DSP models. FP are the non DSP models.
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I was thinking the 4 LMS-18's @4ohm s but if it's too weak or rolls of at 7hz then maybe my 6 UM-15's @ 8-ohms x3 and the SAB-24 @ 2-ohms.

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If in a couple of months it deems itself ok I may take the chance but I would just send it to Notnyt then. He can test it for all to see and then take it from there.
His test rig is not setup to test 240v and he doesn't seem interested in changing.

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His test rig is not setup to test 240v and he doesn't seem interested in changing.
Yes Notnyt replied earlier. And I dont know if he is not interested but no need for it yet. He has been very helpful to the forum so I wouldnt immediately rule it out for a future thing.
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So did you order the ds-20q from the link you provided?
Ah, now I see where 20Q is coming from again, ya I believe its the same model. I've seen it labeled DS-20Q and FP20k on pages.
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I've pushed my Sanway fp14k and fp10k pretty hard (dual 2-ohm and quad 2-ohm on occasion) and I've never heard the fans go beyond half rpm at most, most of the time they are at their idle rpm...
Not a single problem in all the years since I bought them. (They are the newest 2-ohm stable versions.)
Not the older 4-ohm version that NotNyt had when his thread was first created. Mine are like 1 year newer, or whatever.
Good to know.
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Good to know.
I'd err on the side of caution regarding 2 ohm loads..... at least for a fp10k and fp20k. I've blown a fuse on one channel of my fp10k trying 2 0hm stereo. No biggie though as I'm using it to power my lcr Mine was an older version I believe.

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Ah, now I see where 20Q is coming from again, ya I believe its the same model. I've seen it labeled DS-20Q and FP20k on pages.
I wouldn't get caught up in the "Q".

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Ah, now I see where 20Q is coming from again, ya I believe its the same model. I've seen it labeled DS-20Q and FP20k on pages.
Had me confused as hell too. I haven't even seen the fp20k listed anywhere.. only the DS-20Q that BTH linked to.

Following this thread closely!
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Had me confused as hell too. I haven't even seen the fp20k listed anywhere.. only the DS-20Q that BTH linked to.

Following this thread closely!
https://www.ebay.com/itm/FP20000Q-4X...-/162389801011

I think it's the same thing.

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All 20k's are quad channel.
XBS makes dsp and nondsp version
And like 5 different cases.

You want the classic black fp20000q.
I just hope they can read LOL because otherwise they'll have sent me a pink case dsp 110v (this could end badly LOL! )
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All 20k's are quad channel.
XBS makes dsp and nondsp version
And like 5 different cases.

You want the classic black fp20000q.
I just hope they can read LOL because otherwise they'll have sent me a pink case dsp 110v (this could end badly LOL! )
I seriously pray they send you a pink case.
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All 20k's are quad channel.
XBS makes dsp and nondsp version
And like 5 different cases.

You want the classic black fp20000q.
I just hope they can read LOL because otherwise they'll have sent me a pink case dsp 110v (this could end badly LOL! )
So you were asked which case you wanted? I wasn't?

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