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There are two ultras for sale in the classifieds. Price is good.
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I had inquired a month ago about them. They look terrible. (dirty)
Thanks for looking out for me though.
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Are G-Horns not cool anymore? Too big for your space? Not sure if the V2 solved the ringing issue @50Hz (IIRC), but man... 4 G-Horns would rip.

Maybe only buy four (4) of the 21SW152-4 to build some Othorns?

I mean, 4 G's & 4 O's would be a site to see & hear!!!!

Call me old school I guess...haha.
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Are G-Horns not cool anymore? Too big for your space? Not sure if the V2 solved the ringing issue @50Hz (IIRC), but man... 4 G-Horns would rip.

Maybe only buy four (4) of the 21SW152-4 to build some Othorns?

I mean, 4 G's & 4 O's would be a site to see & hear!!!!

Call me old school I guess...haha.
I'm sure they're all higher SPL but I simply need to even out room response by adding at least one more of what I already have. I rarely ever see clip lights so I have sufficient SPL. I should have bought 6 of the TC's when I ordered but I thought it was already overkill with 4 not thinking about possible nulls in a square room. Live and learn.

The ringing was a curiosity to me. No one complains about it but it is there. I too would love to experience what you suggest but I don't think I have enough room for it even if it was what I was looking for. Midbass isn't lacking so the Othorn isn't my thing.
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4 G horns in 4 locations should help you out?
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4 G horns in 4 locations should help you out?
It was addressed in the post before yours
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I'm sure they're all higher SPL but I simply need to even out room response by adding at least one more of what I already have. I rarely ever see clip lights so I have sufficient SPL. I should have bought 6 of the TC's when I ordered but I thought it was already overkill with 4 not thinking about possible nulls in a square room. Live and learn.

The ringing was a curiosity to me. No one complains about it but it is there. I too would love to experience what you suggest but I don't think I have enough room for it even if it was what I was looking for. Midbass isn't lacking so the Othorn isn't my thing.
Cool cool. Nearfield out of the question? Not hard to even out room response when you pretty much take the room out of the equation...

My bad if I am making suggestions you've already shut down.
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What is the closest match / better driver than the LMS Ultra today?
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What is the closest match / better driver than the LMS Ultra today?
https://www.harbottleaudio.com/speak...ver-index.html they have some really nice drivers and just modeling them they have some very nice output. I think price wise they are $1200-1500+ for the 18" and 21" depending on the model. I think they are the same or similar drivers that Funk Audio uses and data-bass has tested some of the older models.

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https://www.harbottleaudio.com/speak...ver-index.html they have some really nice drivers and just modeling them they have some very nice output. I think price wise they are $1200-1500+ for the 18" and 21" depending on the model. I think they are the same or similar drivers that Funk Audio uses and data-bass has tested some of the older models.
They're nice, but the prices are insane and their 'contact us for pricing' model is stupid.
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They're nice, but the prices are insane and their 'contact us for pricing' model is stupid.
The UH12" is $1,800 and the UH 24" is $3,600. I was considering buying from them until I got the price list. Im sure they are great but thats a tough pill to swallow
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The specs look really good and $1200 is not that crazy for an 18 with a neo motor. It looks to be very efficient too. Under 500 grams for MMS
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They're nice, but the prices are insane and their 'contact us for pricing' model is stupid.
I think the custom pricing is built in to give quantity discounts and to adjust for varying materials cost since the euro is not stable.
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I think the custom pricing is built in to give quantity discounts and to adjust for varying materials cost since the euro is not stable.
Because it's easier to give everyone individual pricing instead of just updating a database?
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Because it's easier to give everyone individual pricing instead of just updating a database?
I agree that like P express, they can just put some quantity discounts right on a page. I was just offering some possible reasons for it playing dev's advocate. Have pity. I'm sick in bed.
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I agree that like P express, they can just put some quantity discounts right on a page. I was just offering some possible reasons for it playing dev's advocate. Have pity. I'm sick in bed.
Lol, wasn't trying to attack you if it came off that way, just the stupid pricing stuff like that.

Anyway, feel better
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Location is key!
You have 4 subs aleady. if they are on the front wall, place them 1/4 into to room from the sidewalls, and then you have almost eliminated sidewall reflections. at the same time, build the boxes so the driver is 1/4 up from the floor. Also stack the 2 other on top, so those driver is 1/4 down from the roof. Boom, you now have a single bass aray setup, and you have basicly eliminated both sidewall and floor/celing reflections. All that is left is front and backwall reflections. Add som EQ and you might get away with just that. (depends where your null is, and if you can live with it.)
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You have 4 subs aleady. if they are on the front wall, place them 1/4 into to room from the sidewalls, and then you have almost eliminated sidewall reflections. at the same time, build the boxes so the driver is 1/4 up from the floor. Also stack the 2 other on top, so those driver is 1/4 down from the roof. Boom, you now have a single bass aray setup, and you have basicly eliminated both sidewall and floor/celing reflections. All that is left is front and backwall reflections. Add som EQ and you might get away with just that. (depends where your null is, and if you can live with it.)
Thanks for responding. Location is key but in my case, it's not negotiable. I think a description of the system and the room was elsewhere in the thread. I have 2 subs that have 2 18's in each box. They are built. I have a 192" screen that owns the front of the room and the 6' tall subs flank the corners. Having 2 18's in each box allowed them to be at staggered heights and I think that is valuable. The left wall is all glass and subs can't be 1/4 way into the room. I need 2 more 18's for a 3rd sub to even out room response. I will find them eventually.
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