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Background info: 2016 Rough year, lost job, home and most of equipment.
2017 New job, home but 0 equipment.
My plan. Cost list of all items I would need or want. New HTPC, projector, screen, speakers, avr and wiring to support all items. Have all wiring in wall and connected to multiple battery backups.
Lets start. Loaded sketchup with room dimensions and started to figure what I could do.



Wanted seating and projector and screen.



Real pictures.






Room was full of echoes and sounded hollow. That was the first to correct. Started to build and hang sound panels.



This was my plan in sketchup.



And the outcome with an electric screen installed.





A panoramic view of panels in room. Still have 1 to install at this point.



Now onto speaker placement. With the help of @LTD02 , he gave me a good idea of placement I would need.



I started with Volt 6's as mounting would be difficult because of the placement .My finished Volt 6's.


The mounting brackets I used on the Volts.

Wall brackets that I had to build.

Mounted




Over all picture of both Volts.



Continue on next post .
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I now had a game plan for speakers. I bought up sketch up once again. My think was going toward the 1099's and sealed subs. This is what I configured.



Seeing how much room I had switched me to going with ported subs.

But First I needed an equipment rack or stand. So I built one. No nails, screws all dowels and glue.

And painted .



I did not get any pics of my building the subs. They are roughly the same as a Johnny sub, slightly larger. Tune comes in around 18. Using HO18's





Now with the stand and subs done, I focused on the speakers. After measuring once again, I found I could shoehorn the1299's in the space. The 1299 drivers.

I started to cut window braces.
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With the braces cut I started to dry fit my over braced 1299's





Oh ya I had to build some stands for the 1299's. Picture of stands I built along with my position of crossover.



I used speakon connections on all subs and speakers.




Leftover foam went into the1299 boxes



Boxes finished but needed to check my crossovers. I know they look bad but they all work.
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Now that I have confirmed all crossover work, on to paint.

Paint done and happy with the outcome. I stuffed some poly on top of the foam on all boxes on the advise of @tuxedocivic
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Now the 1299's
All the boxes unwrapped.



Drivers installed.




This is where I am today and still need an avr, projector but have some ideas for my picowreckers in this pic. Will build a counter between them and see how that measure and maybe some nearfield if needed.



Thanks for putting up with all this.
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That's far from 0 in just 2 years.

For most people their home is 99% of their total wealth, so straight-up losing a home that you had potentially put years of investment into would be devastating to say the least...
The resulting bankruptcy is never fun either, taking years to recover from.
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Looks like a cool space! Should be fun with picos and ported 18s! Are you going to use DSP on iNuke only? I'm interested how the ported subs will blend with the horns.

What's the chances you'd be interested in a Denon AVR-X4200W? I might be in the market for an upgrade soon
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Looks like a cool space! Should be fun with picos and ported 18s! Are you going to use DSP on iNuke only? I'm interested how the ported subs will blend with the horns.

What's the chances you'd be interested in a Denon AVR-X4200W? I might be in the market for an upgrade soon
My plan is to get a Nad 758v3 for AVR and see how that works with the horns and ported. If problems arise will look into a minidsp. Thanks for the offer on the Denon. Once the Nad gets here, I am looking at 4 Atmos speakers. Going with the Volt 6 but unsure ported or sealed yet.


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Great work there, I'm taking a run to the dump tomorrow myself with all the empty boxes from various diysg speaker projects.

I believe most of the curent receivers will soon be on sale as 2018/2019 models are released in August/September.
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That's far from 0 in just 2 years.

For most people their home is 99% of their total wealth, so straight-up losing a home that you had potentially put years of investment into would be devastating to say the least...
The resulting bankruptcy is never fun either, taking years to recover from.
Well when I moved into this place, I had 2 suitcases and a 55gal. Rubbermaid container. So yes not 0 but going from This to what I carried into this place could be close to 0.
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Great write up. Really good use of the space, like all of the posters you have around it. Bet it sounds great too!
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Great write up. Really good use of the space, like all of the posters you have around it. Bet it sounds great too!
Thank you. Room was really bad. Talking on phone people would ask me if I was in a tunnel. Now with the posters up, room is pretty dead. Sound quality I am hoping will be good. I only have a broken receiver with 1 channel working on it, so once the new one comes in, can take some measurements.


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I'm not sure which is more awesome; the come back or the room. Just fantastic!!
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I'm not sure which is more awesome; the come back or the room. Just fantastic!!
I knew what I wanted since I used to have the 1099's with volt 10 and that just sounded out of this world. So my plan was the 1099's again but then found I could fit the 1299's and said H3ll ya I am going do it. Just playing one channel, I can tell these are going to be explosive with sound and clarity.
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Echoing johnson636's statement. Congrats on the come back, the setup looks great!
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Very nice! Grills look great.
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Thanks. I plan to have grills on the 1299's also. I have the fabric and want to follow the same round over as the volts. I was working on that layout today.


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Thank you. Room was really bad. Talking on phone people would ask me if I was in a tunnel. Now with the posters up, room is pretty dead. Sound quality I am hoping will be good. I only have a broken receiver with 1 channel working on it, so once the new one comes in, can take some measurements.
Hmm... 1.2 channel surround... you may have something there
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Wow, excellent job. I especially like the grills on the volts and the custom media stand.

I am interested to hear about how well this works in a non-ideal room. A lot of us don't have the luxury to build or buy a house with an ideal theater room. I ahve a feeling your sysytem is going to be rock-solid.

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Wow, excellent job. I especially like the grills on the volts and the custom media stand.

I am interested to hear about how well this works in a non-ideal room. A lot of us don't have the luxury to build or buy a house with an ideal theater room. I ahve a feeling your sysytem is going to be rock-solid.

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Thanks. The stand took about 5 different shapes before I settled on what was built. Took a while to get general dimensions of AVR's, inukes, cable box, and htpc to fit into what I had in my mind. Then sketchup ti bring that into a visual view help with the design. All shelves are removable if needed, but everything should fit as is.
I really wanted a 7.x.4 setup but room would not allow for that, so ending at 5.x.4 is what I will settle for. I think everyone wishes for that ideal home theater but compromises have to be met. I live alone so no WAF but still wanted wiring hidden and a clean look.
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Really awesome change of events. Also really like the way those 18HO's look. Reminds me of the NS18 cones a little bit. Happy things are shaping up for you.
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1899s would have been better for this space.
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Thanks. I plan to have grills on the 1299's also. I have the fabric and want to follow the same round over as the volts. I was working on that layout today.
Are the 1299s normally this tall or did you build a base for them?

BTW, those grills on the volts look great.
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I think @BCRSS made a wonderful choice with choosing the 1299s
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Are the 1299s normally this tall or did you build a base for them?

BTW, those grills on the volts look great.
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These are the sealed 1299's and height wise are 40 inches. Ti bring the waveguide up to 36-38 inches I needed a base for then. The base is 12inches tall and waveguide is now at 36 inches. Almost perfect to ear height in my seating.

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I spent numerous hours in sketchup with different speaker/sub dimensions to find what would work. Not only in the space I had but also with the height I had with my screen. The subs I built could be turned down and would match up perfectly with my equipment stand. This thinking was in the line of using the subs as a stand along with the HTM or Fusion line. I could then run all three straight across. With those DIY lines I was having problems with the height from stand to screen. So it was either the 1099's or the 1299's. I had the 1099's and loved them , so got the 1299's for extra mid punch with the 12's.
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This is an excellent question. My first thoughts on the 1299's were to go ported. With ported default dimensions would have been 12 inches taller for L/R channels and 12 wider for center. I could handle the L/R taller but if I went 12 wider on center, meant I would need to rotate the subs down to match the height of my equipment stand. The subs and the stand would match up height wise at that point, but would then limit me on the L/R speakers. I would not be able to toe them in and would need to move everything off center which then would put my right speaker into the doorway of my bedroom. So the logical choice was to go sealed. I thought with my picowreckers I could take up that lack of extension from the 1299's. If I am not satisfied after I get everything tuned in, I can still add more.


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Ok, makes sense then. Nice looking setup you have there. I really like the panels on the walls. Do you have a thread about them - What you used, how you built them, etc ?
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Ok, makes sense then. Nice looking setup you have there. I really like the panels on the walls. Do you have a thread about them - What you used, how you built them, etc ?
Thank you.
I do not have a thread on the posters. I followed general guides from this thread. https://www.avsforum.com/forum/19-de...els-cheap.html
The panels have made a BIG improvement with taming all the echoes and hollow sound. I am really looking forward to some measurements to confirm this once I get my Nad 758v3.


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