Originally Posted by EndersShadow
FYI Parts Express flatpacks are the same as the DIYSoundGroup. Denovo Audio IS
Parts Express just offers them as a kit (sub + flatpack).
The items YOU NEED to provide are just the connections to the sub (binding post/speakon/quick disconnects depending on what you use), polyfill/denim if you want to stuff a sealed box, and then the amp to connect things to (if not included in the parts express kit).
That and if you want a Grill Parts Express can provide kits for that as well (purchased separately).
was not aware of that, I have read so many good thing about the DIYSG speaker but was not aware they made subs.
That why I wanted to go with them as it seem pretty simple.
Originally Posted by strawberry
You can get 4.0cf sealed flat packs from DIYSG pretty affordably. For a larger ported enclosure, you're going to need to DIY- I'd look at either one of the Marty designs or the VBSS design if you're on a tighter budget/need smaller boxes than the Martys. One option would be to shop around for a local carpenter or handyman and get some quotes to have them cut the parts out for you. These designs are not difficult to cut and build- that's the whole point. Or, do you have a friend with a table saw? Skill saw, even? It's just a bunch of straight cuts and a circle cutout. The rest you can do with glue, clamps and nails.
As for competing with ID stuff- you can build a pair of UM18's in full/mini Marty cabs or, (if you're limited on cabinet size) you can do 4x VBSS for ~$1,200 all in. You simply can't get close to that amount of output in the ID world in that price range. Nowhere remotely close.
I was not aware they have sub boxes, so it seem there are no ported flat packs?
so the UM18 and VBSS are completely custom cuts no flat pack?
I invited a co-worker to hear/test my 18'' and he was not surprised by the punch more by the $$ price he had before 12'' klipsch.
that why I am reconsidering my options.
even quad 10 or 12 for the price of dual18'' internet direct
I don't have any friend with carpenter tools. That why I was looking into ready made boxes.
Don't know how the find a carpenter idea would work I guess that would be a last source kind of thing.
Originally Posted by trilkb
It kind of sucks that DIYSG dropped the ported cube 15. I think mostly because people who knew about DIYSG speakers had way bigger plans for subs and the little ported cube 15 just didnt fit the bill, and by little I mean still threw your back out if you tried to move it alone (I owned one). Most people had martys in mind or something else for a subwoofer and that sub probably mixed better with your basic speakers, not fusion 15's or something.
You may be able to get the dimensions for it from Erich.
Check out the 29$ jbl thread...its gone crazy. IF you have the room i say its probably even better then VBSS subs, but ive never heard the VBSS subs.
If the cost is reasonable I can do quad up front as one 18'' direct cost about $1400
Originally Posted by DaBateman
Came here to post this lol.
I’d definitely check out 4 JBL 12’s in dual sealed boxes like these
4 of those 12’s is equivalent to one UM18.
You could get everything you need for ~$300 excluding the amp.
That is more in line to what I am looking at. I could even put the L/R speaker on top and angle it down to aim the tweeter as it might be to high.
Do you have any idea how much one weight fully loaded?
and what amp is recommended?
would the vented one be better for Home theater?
what about this one https://www.parts-express.com/goldwo...binet--260-630
one on top of another would that be better than the dual box or pretty much the same?
quad of the single 12'' vs dual of the 12'' double box
wow you need 4 of the 12'' to equal 1 UM18''
well the ID 18'' is about $1500
that why I am looking at other options as my friend was not super impressed.
Originally Posted by Shades228
The biggest difference is that PE can afford to eat the shipping cost if you order it through them. As discussed in other threads as well a ported 15" I doubt sold as well as the 4cu ft pack.
are this the ones 4cu
I was looking for vented for more slam
So it seem no much love for the part express 15'' or 18'' or is because they cost more.