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Dtsdig's Original Volt-10 to Volt-10LX build!

Well it's about time I get to build something new for myself! We moved into a different house last April (2017) and since it's a complete money pit, all of my interests have been put on hold while I scramble to gut, renovate and rebuild dozens of aspects of this house. While I have had my 1099's and curvy subs set up for quite some time now, I have yet to have surround speakers in this house. It is finally time to change that.
My original Volt-10 thread using Erich's slanted sealed boxes is here:
https://www.avsforum.com/forum/155-d...-10-build.html

At the end of that thread, in November of 2017, I bought the new crossover components required to convert these into LX versions, minus the newer black coned woofer, but I have a fix for that.

So, here we go! This was the very first time of using my completely set up garage shop since I moved into the house! The last few weeks consisted of converting my Grizzly single stage dust collector into a 2 stage cyclone powered monster and then building a ductwork system with all the bells and whistles. It is truly a dream setup for me and I know many of you were along for the early parts of my ride into the wild world of woodworking here:
https://www.avsforum.com/forum/155-d...ations-go.html

Let's build some new boxes. I started with a quick sketch and then setup the track saw table to break down the MDF:



I basically just ripped a rough width using the track saw and then made the final cuts on the table saw. After a bit of that and some assembly, here's what I had.





After 3 hours of cutting MDF, this is the mess I made. What a difference powerful dust collection can make! This thing is a monster!

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Well it's about time I get to build something new for myself! We moved into a different house last April (2017) and since it's a complete money pit, all of my interests have been put on hold while I scramble to gut, renovate and rebuild dozens of aspects of this house. While I have had my 1099's and curvy subs set up for quite some time now, I have yet to have surround speakers in this house. It is finally time to change that.
My original Volt-10 thread using Erich's slanted sealed boxes is here:
https://www.avsforum.com/forum/155-d...-10-build.html
At the end of that thread, in November of 2017, I bought the new crossover components required to convert these into LX versions, minus the newer black coned woofer, but I have a fix for that.
So, here we go! This was the very first time of using my completely set up garage shop since I moved into the house! The last few weeks consisted of converting my Grizzly single stage dust collector into a 2 stage cyclone powered monster and then building a ductwork system with all the bells and whistles. It is truly a dream setup for me and I know many of you were along for the early parts of my ride into the wild world of woodworking here:
https://www.avsforum.com/forum/155-d...ations-go.html
Let's build some new boxes. I started with a quick sketch and then setup the track saw table to break down the MDF
I basically just ripped a rough width using the track saw and then made the final cuts on the table saw. After a bit of that and some assembly, here's what I had.
-Note: I need to come back here and fix all of the upside down photos which I will do tomorrow. In the meantime, I didn't want to lose my work. More to come!
Glad you are getting started with this project. I always enjoy your build threads.
On a side note none of your pictures are showing up for me.
Edit: Pictures now showing. Awesomeness has started.
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Your curvy subs and 1099s are sensational, so I can't wait to see what's in store for the volts.

BTW, your pics are upside down for some reason.

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So after ripping all the pieces and getting an idea on how to assemble it, I started gluing and clamping. This was somewhat challenging because of having to connect angles panels. Normally, I would have used my biscuit jointer to butt all these up together, but my brother borrowed my tool last week!
I managed to get things lined up and secured pretty well.




A little shop pic:


Here's what I ended up with (these pics are before flush trimming all of the edges):



Next up was figuring out a veneer plan. I have had some leftover pieces of Ziricote sitting around from my curvy subs build and I'd hate for it to go to waste. One piece is plenty big still but for a second baffle, I will have to rip and glue some pieces together. Something like what is shown taped up.

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So the Ziricote will more than cover the two sections of the baffles so then I tried to figure out what I wanted to do for the sides, top and bottoms. Since the rest of my setup uses a lot of Walnut, and I love walnut, that was the way to go. I went over to Woodcraft and was going to just pick up a roll of paperbacked like I did for the tops of my subs, but I am still not happy with how that worked out, so then I decided I would do like I did for my 1099's and resaw some solid walnut! Afterall, that kind of stuff is why I have all these tools.
I bought a 8/4 chunk of walnut 5 feet long from a local lumber shop for $32. Sure beats the $60 that Woodcraft was asking for a small roll of paperbacked.
Here's the rough cut board to start.


After a bit of this and a bit of that.....




Here's what we've got!



Looks good to me! Now I have several bookmatched pairs to work with. I am tempted to just use a pair on the baffles as well, but that Ziricote is lovely.





More to come!
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I got some more work done Saturday. Onto the veneering process!
First things first, the boxes were sanded smooth and cleaned.



Then Bondo'd up:


Then sanded some more and eventually marked up with center lines to use as reference points for laying the veneer down:


Now for these babies:

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This is my process for laying up bookmatched veneer pairs. Once I've figured out what halves belong with the other and how I want them oriented, I used my track saw to just trim the inside edges that will be glued together ensuring straight edges to work with.


Next, I join up the pairs and tape them together tightly making sure everything is lined up. Here are a couple of pairs as examples.



Once taped up, I fold one on to the other and flip them over then set them up in an upside down "V" revealing the gap between.


Then I carefully fill this gap with glue:


Once that's done, I set them back down flat with the glue side up. Wipe off the excess, lay some wax paper down over them and apply some weight on top so that they dry flat.


Once the panels were dried, I used the box as a guide and outlined it onto the veneer. Again, I used the track saw to make the cuts for the final (rough) shape.


I was also working on the final ziricote layout.



After a couple of tries, I came to a final decision on which scraps to mate up for the second baffle. I did not have a lot of material left to work with.



Here's the small bottom panels:
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Your curvy subs and 1099s are sensational, so I can't wait to see what's in store for the volts.
BTW, your pics are upside down for some reason.
Thanks guys! The pics should all be fixed now.

Laying the veneer down. I use regular contact cement that you can find at HD. Using a roller made for adhesive (again found at HD), I roll on a good coat on both the box and the veneer panel. Usually after a few minutes, I'll hit them again especially like on MDF edges where the glue has all been soaked up. Let the contact cement dry for a few minutes until mostly dry but still somewhat tacky.



I ripped some pine sticks earlier to use for this and laid them down on the box.


Then carefully set down the veneer panel and line it up using my pencil marks.


With my hand on the center, I start pushing down the panel while gently removing the center stick. Once that is out of the way, I use my hand to flatten the area. I just go one stick at a time flattening out the panel as I go until all the sticks have been removed and the panels are on there nice and solid. I use a J-roller to lay some good pressure down all over the panels being very careful around the edges. You do not want to let the J-roller run off the edges or else you will crack the veneer. This is especially true with this thick raw veneer but the same rule applies for thinner paperbacked.


Here are the layouts I decided on:



And how the first sides look:



Here is how I left them the other night. The contact cement was already dried and the panels were not going anywhere so this was just for the heck of it since it is super humid out. I plan to put a few hours in tonight and should be able to make some good progress.
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Holy crap, where can you buy that veneer? I have been looking and all i can ever find is plain oak, maple, poplar, etc. I want some exotic stuff.
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As you seem to be a seasoned building and I’m new at this I have a question on veneering, I’m using pre-glued iron on veneer and was wondering when joining two pieces to iron on is there a certain type of tape you should use that doesn’t stick too strong to the veneer and damage it when removing?

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Holy crap, where can you buy that veneer? I have been looking and all i can ever find is plain oak, maple, poplar, etc. I want some exotic stuff.
The Ziricote? I got it from a great vendor on eBay named jdcveneer. I’ve bought from him a few times now.
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As you seem to be a seasoned building and I’m new at this I have a question on veneering, I’m using pre-glued iron on veneer and was wondering when joining two pieces to iron on is there a certain type of tape you should use that doesn’t stick too strong to the veneer and damage it when removing?
I’ve never used the iron on stuff, but I’d think that blue painters tape would still work fine.
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I’ve never used the iron on stuff, but I’d think that blue painters tape would still work fine.
It’s ok but I think contact adhesive would be better.

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Holy Crap!! Your shop is so clean and orderly. Every time I start a project it is as if the madhatter has come and took a Sh** in every possible place.
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Waiting to see the veneer come together on the Volts.
Thanks man. It has only recently gotten this way. Just a couple of weeks ago we finally moved out a bunch of shelving and random stuff from the center of the garage. Spent a week plumbing the dust collection and organizing tool storage. Over the winter I did all of the electrical, sub panel, a bunch of outlets and lighting and a big heater. This has been in the works for a long time.
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I picked up a can of this stuff yesterday which I have not tried before. It says it is ready for sanding in 15 minutes! I guess that means I will have to work quickly. This will just be used to smooth over the seams and fill brad nail holes. That, and a corner I tore out while flush trimming. It seems like something stupid always happens using the router.


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Man, I used that stuff and had to remix a bunch of times. I had to mix really fast and immediately apply or it would get too hard, had to scrape off the putty knife a lot too. Still it was fast working and I painted later that day. Still, had a lot of cursing while using it lol.


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Still it was fast working and I painted later that day. Still, had a lot of cursing while using it lol.
Lol, that’s what I was worried about but I’m hoping I can get through it quick enough.
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Any time I'm using 2 part epoxy or something that hardens quickly, I always do a "mime" application with nothing in my hands just to make sure I don't need to mask things off or have interference from my workspace, etc.

I'd probably get tossed in the looney bin if someone watched me do it!

But I like to do the same process when I'm doing a long run with a router or saw. That way I know where the damn cord is going to hang and mess up a cut
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Very nice shop and great work! Interested in seeing the finished project.

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I picked up a can of this stuff yesterday which I have not tried before.
If you don't like that stuff, or for next time, try out some Evercoat Rage Gold lightweight filler. Very good stuff, easy to sand. I use that for any significant filling that needs done. Used to do a lot of body work on cars, this is what we used in our shop.



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I use mud now, takes longer to dry and you can’t pile it on (or it cracks!) but you can still paint same day.


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I use mud now, takes longer to dry and you can’t pile it on (or it cracks!) but you can still paint same day.


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Like... sheet rock mud? Idk if this would be the best application for this if so. As you said, it cracks easily.
Auto body fillers have a catalyst that makes the drying time very quick due to the chemical reaction. Usually sandable in 10-20 minutes depending on how "hot" you make it and how thick the coat is. Obviously paintable if it is sandable too. Hey, if that works for you though, keep at it. I will say I do use spackle for filling in 18 ga nail holes. But anything more than that I feel it's too soft of compound.

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I’m pretty much strictly talking about filling lines and cracks, not voids.


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I’m pretty much strictly talking about filling lines and cracks, not voids.


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I gotcha. I was thinking more along the lines of skim coats over the surface where edges meet and sanding that area flat. Regardless, as long as it makes it smooth
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The Bondo I bought worked out great. It was easy to work with and sanded out pretty easily.
I have used vinyl spackle on many builds but wouldn’t use drywall mud. The vinyl stuff is actually pretty nice to work with and it won’t shrink or crack. The last couple of cans I bought was the DAP brand DryDex stuff from HD.
For this build, since I ripped out a corner pretty badly, I wanted something extra hard which is why I went with Bondo. The spackle is good for filling small cracks and Brad nail holes.
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I made some progress Wednesday getting the other side panels on and the bottom pieces. So far, so good.
This was just after trimming. You can see the smeared junk left over.



After a few minutes with the rasp and some 120 grit, this is what I get.


Here are the ziricote bottom pieces.



A closeup of the seam between the walnut and ziricote. This is not final, just a few minutes with the rasp and sandpaper.


Tonight I should get the baffles done. Next steps will be cutting the hole for the driver, cutting out the speakon hole, gluing some plywood blocks to where the driver screws will sink into then it's on to re-doing the crossovers with the LX parts. Somewhere in all of that, I will select a finish and start laying down some coats.
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