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Ordered DP10Q

I need some sort of rehab for this place, I keep spending money. The latest is thanks to bth and others

Anyway, I went with Sanway DP10Q. Havent seen anyone use one of their dsp models so figured I do my duty and try them. This one is also touchscreen so might make things a little easier on the fly. If it seems lacking on the subs, I will just bridge them. Hopefully that is not the case so I don’t have to buy more lol


https://www.china-sanway.com/Sanway-...pd6274625.html

I attached a current price list as well if anyone needs. The D10Q (non touchscreen) is 790.00, the DP10Q is 835.00.


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There have been many inquiries in regards to the DP10Q and now we have someone who can provide real world experiences. Good for you
Can't wait to hear your impressions.
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There have been many inquiries in regards to the DP10Q and now we have someone who can provide real world experiences. Good for you
Can't wait to hear your impressions.
Yeah I’m surprised no one has tried a dsp version yet. Maybe it will not be that great, but it should at least provide some flexibility or an additional tool set either way.
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I didn't try the dsp version because I was too afraid. You are a brave soul...

It's hard enough just trying to get something that works from china, let alone something that's far more complicated.
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I didn't try the dsp version because I was too afraid. You are a brave soul...

It's hard enough just trying to get something that works from china, let alone something that's far more complicated.
Man, you sure do know how to make a guys nerves settle down 😉
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Man, you sure do know how to make a guys nerves settle down 😉
Why not a miniDSP and the cheaper non-dsp amps?

The miniDSP can HPF and EQ to 10hz. The dsp stuff in most other products can't...

I guess if it were just for multi-way actives it would make things simpler (maybe), however I'm not sure how well their software works when you have 10 of their dsp amps plugging in to a single pc all at once.
I know that the usb mb chip and any external hubs will handle 10 at once, but what of their china software?
It would suck having to connect each one in isolation every time you want to configurate anything. Hopefully that's not the case...

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I need some sort of rehab for this place, I keep spending money. The latest is thanks to bth and others

Anyway, I went with Sanway DP10Q. Havent seen anyone use one of their dsp models so figured I do my duty and try them. This one is also touchscreen so might make things a little easier on the fly. If it seems lacking on the subs, I will just bridge them. Hopefully that is not the case so I don’t have to buy more lol


https://www.china-sanway.com/Sanway-...pd6274625.html

I attached a current price list as well if anyone needs. The D10Q (non touchscreen) is 790.00, the DP10Q is 835.00.



Hum...looks great on paper, as they all do. At first glance my thoughts are...That screen is one more thing that can go wrong...lol

Looks like it can be networked. Would love to see a video of you navigating the DSP and hear your overall general impressions.

I'd probably end up giving it a shot if it works out for you. I really really like networked DSP and being able to adjust easily on the fly.
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You should ask Sanway for an updated pricelist to include all of the DSP versions...
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Why not a miniDSP and the cheaper non-dsp amps?

The miniDSP can HPF and EQ to 10hz. The dsp stuff in most other products can't...

I guess if it were just for multi-way actives it would make things simpler (maybe), however I'm not sure how well their software works when you have 10 of their dsp amps plugging in to a single pc all at once.
I know that the usb mb chip and any external hubs will handle 10 at once, but what of their china software?
It would suck having to connect each one in isolation every time you want to configurate anything. Hopefully that's not the case...

Am I doing a good job of calming your nerves yet?

This has HPF and LPF as well. Minidsp would mean I need two of them. I wasn’t aware of a price change to 599 so I thought that would be another 2000. At 599 that is still another 1200 I read of the 500 on these. I mean yeah, it could end up not being very good, but I have been seeing over the years here that Sanway has a good track record overall, so why not give it a shot? Somebody has to do it.

For hooking everything to pc at once, hell i don’t know man lol! My pc is about 15 years old so that may be more of a problem than the amps 😉 besides, that’s the enticing point of the touchscreen
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Hum...looks great on paper, as they all do. At first glance my thoughts are...That screen is one more thing that can go wrong...lol

Looks like it can be networked. Would love to see a video of you navigating the DSP and hear your overall general impressions.

I'd probably end up giving it a shot if it works out for you. I really really like networked DSP and being able to adjust easily on the fly.
I will do what I can sir!

I asked her for a full price list and she gave me the attached 👍
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I will do what I can sir!

I asked her for a full price list and she gave me the attached 👍
K, so it looks like the primary difference between the DP10Q and the DSP10KQ is the touchscreen. Honestly, if you have it networked, I don't see why you would ever really mess with the touchscreen. Wouldn't you agree?

Are these prices shipped? They seem like they've gotten more aggressive with their pricing from what I remember. Not bad.
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K, so it looks like the primary difference between the DP10Q and the DSP10KQ is the touchscreen. Honestly, if you have it networked, I don't see why you would ever really mess with the touchscreen. Wouldn't you agree?

Are these prices shipped? They seem like they've gotten more aggressive with their pricing from what I remember. Not bad.
I don’t have a pc in my system, so touchscreen should be nice and simple on the fly. Pricing does not include shipping
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Besides, touchscreen is only like 40 more so not too big of deal, no?
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Besides, touchscreen is only like 40 more so not too big of deal, no?
Yeah, good point I guess.

Why not.
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Here is a question for you. How much is the shipping? I realize that it will change from place to place but as a ball park? I am strongly considering ordering a FP14k. Or would that be to much for a pair of Hs-24? Thanks for the info.
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Here is a question for you. How much is the shipping? I realize that it will change from place to place but as a ball park? I am strongly considering ordering a FP14k. Or would that be to much for a pair of Hs-24? Thanks for the info.
I pushed a pair of HS-24's with a FP14K. Great combo, plenty of power.

Keep in mind, the FP14K is powerful enough to cause thermal failure of the HS-24.

Ask me how I know.

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This guy ordered a DP10Q and I believe that there was a thread where a guy was discussing the DSP for the DP10Q. It might have been on here or audioholics. If I remember correctly, he wasn't the biggest fan for their rudimentary DSP interface, but they were providing iterative updates to it.
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Here is a question for you. How much is the shipping? I realize that it will change from place to place but as a ball park? I am strongly considering ordering a FP14k. Or would that be to much for a pair of Hs-24? Thanks for the info.
160 for one piece, but can vary I’m sure
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This guy ordered a DP10Q and I believe that there was a thread where a guy was discussing the DSP for the DP10Q. It might have been on here or audioholics.
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Well, amps showed up before speakon connectors lol

What was interesting, is I saw another fp10000 in the dhl truck, wonder where that one is going..

Thank you for the double boxing sanway 👍

All powered up and kicked down into low fan mode. So far so good. Will get to hooking things up when I have connectors and time. 🙂





















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If it proves to be a good unit, I am going to buy one too to replace my Crest Pro-Lite 5.0 DSP. It cost the same and is 4 channel vs. 2 channel for the Crest (the DSP only goes to 31 hz and is very rudimentary -no network). I wonder what the true output is.
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Everything looked great right up until that power cord pic! lol
You never mentioned you were buying 5 of them! That is a lot of power right there.
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You never mentioned you were buying 5 of them! That is a lot of power right there.
Well I didn’t want to give away all of the surprise at once
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If it proves to be a good unit, I am going to buy one too to replace my Crest Pro-Lite 5.0 DSP. It cost the same and is 4 channel vs. 2 channel for the Crest (the DSP only goes to 31 hz and is very rudimentary -no network). I wonder what the true output is.
The output of the 10k is about half the output of the 20k.

If you are brave enough and don't mind running your 10k's bridged at 4 ohm it will put out slightly more power than a 14k x2 @ 4ohms, 10kW vs 8.8kW give or take. Obviously 2 bridged 14k's or a single at dual 2-ohm would be more powerful... (and likely more robust.)

There is of course the dsp20k which is a much better value if you need that extra 3db to push subs, rather than tweets and mids. The dsp20k would definitely beat the Crest I would guess... and you can do that at a safer quad 4-ohm.

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The output of the 10k is about half the output of the 20k.

If you are brave enough and don't mind running your 10k's bridged at 4 ohm it will put out slightly more power than a 14k x2 @ 4ohms, 10kW vs 8.8kW give or take. Obviously 2 bridged 14k's or a single at dual 2-ohm would be more powerful... (and likely more robust.)

There is of course the dsp20k which is a much better value if you need that extra 3db to push subs, rather than tweets and mids. The dsp20k would definitely beat the Crest I would guess... and you can do that at a safer quad 4-ohm.
Please show your math. Thanks.
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Please show your math. Thanks.
One doesn't need to do math when it's very obvious which one has more meat:

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About half...

As mentioned, the 20k is more suitable for subs, and the 10k is designed for mids and tweets (but can do subs too if absolutely needed...)





If you want to buy both and do a bunch of tests and math you can...

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