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Yes sir! I’m going to use this thread for questions and help once I have enough pictures I will create a separate build thread to walk people through it step by step. If someone out there wants to replicate it but IMO these furniture subs will become very popular since WAF is always a big deal.


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I’m excited to see this come together. Good luck with your build.


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First dumb question of many....apparently birch plywood larger than 2’x 4’ is nowhere to be found around me for some reason. They do have this: Blondewood 3/4-in Whitewood Plywood, Application as 4 X 8 https://www.lowes.com/pd/Blondewood-...4-X-8/50121139

What do you guys think. What’s an alternative wood available at Lowe’s/ homedepot


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Home Depot frequently has a so called cabinet plywood for around 35 a sheet that is pretty good. Baltic is much better but if you’re veneering or painting it is pretty good.

Two pieces of “cabinet” ply and some Baltic. Baltic isn’t perfect there are some voids etc but since the plys are thinner so are the voids.

You can build a very solid, inert cabinet out of any of this stuff, the bracing and solid joints are the key.

If you want Baltic call around and ask, someone can probably get 5x5 sheets. Prices are all over the place. Check the ratings and make sure you ask for one face clear, no patches.




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I have decided it may be best to just use MDF and give it a go at Veneering. Never doen it but also never built a sub so why not! I am putting together a complete itemized list of parts with links to where they can be found. Please take a look and see if I am leaving anything out. Im going to use this as one of the starter post in the Build thread so that is why I am trying to be so detailed with it.

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Behringer NX series amp: (NX6000D) https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...amplifier.html
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Behringer NX series amp: (NX3000D) https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...EALw_wcB&smp=y

Driver of your choice: (Please consult Marty FAQ) https://www.avsforum.com/forum/155-d...tysub-faq.html

MDF for box: https://www.lowes.com/pd/Actual-0-75...MDF/1000075253

Lots of Clamps: https://www.harborfreight.com/catalo...cheting+clamps



Spray glue: https://www.lowes.com/pd/3M-Hi-Stren...hesive/1160531

I plan to use the spray glue for both the vaneer and attaching the foam inside the box. Again I have never vaneered so if this will not work please let me know.

Wood Glue: https://www.lowes.com/pd/Gorilla-Woo...-fl-oz/3121069

Matress pad: https://www.walmart.com/ip/Authentic...EaAq_BEALw_wcB

I opted for a queen size. Unsure how much was needed. Will update on size you will need.

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Speaker wire: https://www.amazon.com/Monoprice-Acc...ker+wire&psc=1

I love this stuff. Have a bunch left over so this is what I will be using but any 12-14 AWG wire will go the trick.

SpeakON Connector: https://www.parts-express.com/neutri...y3100s3dy0005c

SpeakON Cable: https://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_...ce007d0a240613


RCA to XLR Connector: https://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_...ce007d0a240613

This is assuming your AVR uses an RCA out for the subwoofer. If yours uses XLR then you likley spent a ton of money on it and know more about this stuff than me anyways



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Router: Any plunge router will do I prefer this one: https://www.lowes.com/pd/Bosch-2-25-...Router/1014955

Jigsaw: Any Cheap Jigsaw will work.

Router Circle Jig:https://www.lowes.com/pd/Milescraft-...Kit/1000233663

Never use this one but will be picking it up myself. Even comes with the proper bit. Should make cutting the circle a breeze. This is not required though as one could simply make their own jig.

Random Orbital Sander: Any will do But I like this one https://www.homedepot.com/p/DEWALT-3...-206036911-_-N


Brad Nailer: Helps hold the parts in place while glue dries. Also reduces the need for a ton of clamps. Any model will work but as stated in FAQ thread mid tier is better here. With that said I have had decent luck with Harbor Freight Brad nailers.


Im certain I am missing something. I am buying all the items I am missing now. Please let me know what I have left off.

Also ALL credit goes to @chalugadp for most of this is pulled from the FAQ thread. But since I want to do a complete start to finish build thread I want to put the information together here so I can just copy it later. Plus it allows others to chime in and give me advice on what I am buying! Win Win.

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Veneer is a good plan. I like using rite bond watered down for the veneer. Just thin a little and roll it on with a low nap roller and let dry. Then put the veneer down and iron. It’s a little more forgiving than contact cement with regards to positioning and the smell is not obnoxious. You can buy veneer glue that works the same and I’ve used it, it looks, smells, and acts just like tightbond. Heat lock I think is what it’s called. The bond you get is awesome and I trust it better than contact cement anyway although both work of course.

Btw ash veneer does really well with the transtint dye, mix with alcohol not water.

Speedsters ash veneer with heavy black dye



Harbor freight has cheap clamps if you want to just glue and not nail. The first panel takes a little more effort but no patching and etc, no split edges, no nails popping out the side, etc.



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I forgot to add a foam mattress pad to my list. Any thickness recommendations? I see them anywhere between 1-3 inches. I am thinking 2 inches should be perfect. What do you guys think?

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Veneer is a good plan. I like using rite bond watered down for the veneer. Just thin a little and roll it on with a low nap roller and let dry. Then put the veneer down and iron. It’s a little more forgiving than contact cement with regards to positioning and the smell is not obnoxious. You can buy veneer glue that works the same and I’ve used it, it looks, smells, and acts just like tightbond. Heat lock I think is what it’s called. The bond you get is awesome and I trust it better than contact cement anyway although both work of course.

Btw ash veneer does really well with the transtint dye, mix with alcohol not water.

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Wow that looks outstanding. How did you make the rounded edges look so good? Im guessing you first hit it with a 1/4" roundover bit then applied the veneer but is that a one piece veneer bent round the edges? Sorry if that is a dumb question I really have no clue how to veneer or how it works. Ill research when I get to that part haha


Yes I think I am going to try and just glue the entire thing. It likley will come out better. The Nailing idea is bc I have this sub and its killing me its not running but I need to back off take my time and ensure this comes out good.

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Wow that looks outstanding. How did you make the rounded edges look so good? Im guessing you first hit it with a 1/4" roundover bit then applied the veneer but is that a one piece veneer bent round the edges? Sorry if that is a dumb question I really have no clue how to veneer or how it works. Ill research when I get to that part haha

Thanks. these are 1/2” roundover bit. The veneer is one piece all the way around. At the back you just use some wax paper between the layers and trim through both edges of veneer at once. The wood glue for veneer makes this a lot easier to wrap etc.




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What type of wood are you guys using for bracing? And with the redesign of the cube (making it cube xl) how many braces are needed. I’m thinking two of the square braces should be enough but want to hear from others on the best way to brace this box.


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I like 2x4s for bracing. Bracing should be 10" apart roughly. If you did two boards across the baffle over and under. Then four boards going front to back.

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I like 2x4s for bracing. Bracing should be 10" apart roughly. If you did two boards across the baffle over and under. Then four boards going front to back.


Ok awesome! Just finished making all the cuts to the MDF now. Had plenty left over. Didn’t know if I could use that for bracing or buy wood. I was thinking a 2x2 would work but I’ll pick up some 2x4s and use that. Better safe then sorry.
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I like 2x4s for bracing. Bracing should be 10" apart roughly. If you did two boards across the baffle over and under. Then four boards going front to back.


Uh oh think we made a mistake on the cut list do you mind going back over the top bottom sides and back. It seems we both overlooked the thickness of the material.


Figured it out. Two of the sides need to be 26.5”X25”


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Uh oh think we made a mistake on the cut list do you mind going back over the top bottom sides and back. It seems we both overlooked the thickness of the material.


Figured it out. Two of the sides need to be 26.5”X25”


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Nice, I will have to update that later.

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@Vince_B @Red Five @LTD02 do you happen to know the diameter of the circle cuts that need to be made for the uxl18?


Edit: ended up just measuring the base and the seat size. First cut was too large so used that for the flush fit. (Lots of sanding to make it sit perfectly) second cut for perfectly for the smaller circle. Definitely the hardest part for me since I have around about 0 experience with a router but it went well!


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Check on the Mach 5 website under dimensions.

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Thanks man. That’s the first place I looked but wasn’t quite sure 16.7” was correct. It seemed small but yes you are right should of just trusted it.


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Day one in the books! Had several things pop up that slowed me down. Some build related other not. Basically all I got done today was all of the cuts including the two baffle cutouts completed! I have the base and 3 sides completed. I also have the 2 lower ports curing over night with some weights on top. Things will likely slow down over the week due to work and all but hope to have last side applied and all ports completed tomorrow leaving just bracing and the baffle.


Which reminds me what screws do you guys use to attach the woofer to the MDF?


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I used a #8 , I think it was around 3in in length. I also chopped some short bits of 2x4 and glued it behind each hole on the bafle. That way switching a driver is a possibility

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I used GRK #8 with 3/4" plywood pieces glued underneath the baffle.
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I used GRK #8 with 3/4" plywood pieces glued underneath the baffle.


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Thanks. these are 1/2” roundover bit. The veneer is one piece all the way around. At the back you just use some wax paper between the layers and trim through both edges of veneer at once. The wood glue for veneer makes this a lot easier to wrap etc.




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Hey newbie question. If I plan to stain the wood to give it a weathered look like you can see in the previous picture I posted I am thinking of just using a pine veneer. Issue is I’m not even sure what type would be best for speakers. There is 10mil 18mil paperback 2ply etc. any advice on what’s the best bang for the buck and easy to work with. Also where do you buy yours from. Best I can find is 4’x8’ for like $50 which seems crazy for such a thin slice of pine wood.


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Figured it out. Two of the sides need to be 26.5”X25”


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Was it the top/bottom that went down 1.5" or was it the sides?

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Was it the top/bottom that went down 1.5" or was it the sides?


It can be either or. Basically the way I attached everything was starting from the back. Two of the pieces that attach to the back must be the same length. The other two must be 1.5” larger to account for the thickness of the mdf. So you end up with 25X26.5” sides and 25X28” top/bottom or vice versa but must be done in sets.


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The ash I used was from oak wood veneer, not sure about pine unless you just want a certain look. Ash takes stain well I think, it’s pretty uniform. If you use dye, use alcohol to mix it. I used water the first time and it doesn’t penetrate well into the pores. It’s a surface tension thing like the oily pores repel water so alcohol works better and doesn’t raise the grain as much.

Wipe on poly is a great sanding sealer if you’re using poly. So sand, dye or stain, sand gently, wipe on poly, sand, poly is one route you can take. When sanding stain or dye you are being extremely gentle on the edges like hold one end of the sandpaper and apply the other end to the edges, zero pressure to avoid burning through the stain.

Lots of sanding worth it though


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The ash I used was from oak wood veneer, not sure about pine unless you just want a certain look. Ash takes stain well I think, it’s pretty uniform. If you use dye, use alcohol to mix it. I used water the first time and it doesn’t penetrate well into the pores. It’s a surface tension thing like the oily pores repel water so alcohol works better and doesn’t raise the grain as much.

Wipe on poly is a great sanding sealer if you’re using poly. So sand, dye or stain, sand gently, wipe on poly, sand, poly is one route you can take. When sanding stain or dye you are being extremely gentle on the edges like hold one end of the sandpaper and apply the other end to the edges, zero pressure to avoid burning through the stain.

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Thank you very much for the help and reply. I went ahead and ordered some birch paper back 10mil 4’x8’ sheet. (Order was placed before I saw this else I would of went with ash). Since the box is 25”x28” per side with 4 sides needing the veneer is it going to look bad when I have to piece together the 4th side?

Basically total length around it 112” and I bought 8’ or 96 inches. The last side will have to use some of the scrap from the other sides and I am worried that may look bad if you can see the seam.


Another question. Since my build is a square do you think it would be better to buy a veneer cutter or just use a router to shave it down to size?

Sorry for all the questions it seems the more I research it the more I find different opinions and without ever doing it I can’t differentiate which is meaningful and what is just convenient.


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You can go both ways with flushing up the veneer. The bit will be the fastest but the glue will gum up the bit requiring you to stop and clean it. If you saw off the edges you will need to sand up to the edge/joint. I personally use a fine rasp and sharp box cutter, if there’s a lot of veneer then I break out the router.


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