Originally Posted by avsinkhole
Any new listening impressions, especially the highs, female vocals, etc? I will be building 1099s soon and am concerned about recurring, somewhat negative, characterizations of the highs.
I'll start with the disclaimer that the following is simply 1 person's opinion/perception dictated by the room the speakers are in and as always, YMMV. But I am use to listening to Klipsch and JBL L300 speakers which would be considered "forward" or bright by many so that helps provide a background for my opinions.
I've been concentrating on Movies/TV. Since you asked, I spent the last 2 days listening to music with Audyssey Reference, Flat, and manual EQ. Flat boosts high frequency so it can't be used with the 1099. I have the HF Pad activated on the 3 1099s so that cut a couple of DBs off the tweeter output. With Audyssey Reference curve, most vocalists sound good (male and female). Electric guitar is amazing. The problem is the bass is boosted so much that it overpowers everything. I think the main problem is in the mid-bass since setting the level of the subs down didn't help tame the bass much (using the Reference curve). Two vocalists stick out as exceptions - Avicii and Adele. There is something in their voice that gets accentuated which I find irritating. I listened to different genres, lots of different vocalists and other than those two, vocals sounded fine.
The Flat curve took out the booming bass but also boosted the highs which made the few that I listened to before giving up sound bad.
Manual EQ. The Denon copies the Flat curve to the EQ - wish it let you copy the Reference since I would only need to but the mid-bass. EQ'ing to make Avicii/Adele sound better made others sound flat/dead. Had to boost mid-bass and subs since flat curve seemed to make those frequencies disappear.
Sound stage depth seems to be controlled (at least partly according to what I've read) by having the speakers positioned away from the wall behind the speakers. So a distance of 3 feet seems the standard speakers should be away from the wall. I have mine much closer to the wall so the secondary sound waves bouncing from the wall doesn't help create the sense of depth. So I have a shallow sound stage - there isn't a perceived difference in position of instruments and vocals in terms of depth.
Stereo effect is good. The phantom center is created where I had to check whether I was in stereo mode and the center speaker wasn't activated. This was never true with the small Klipsch Reference series LR I had. I could always easily locate them and the phantom center wasn't created.
The Reference curve is good for movies/TV but not for music (most vocals sound good but the bass is way too much).
I don't have a calibrated mike or software so can't post any response curves.
But having gone through this and not being satisfied with Audyssey curves or manual EQ, I may get the $20 Denon/Marantz Audyssey app which lets you store multiple profiles. So I might create separate Movie and Music profiles. I might even create Thriller Movie, regular movie, and music profiles. I found I have to boost the sub output for some movies while cutting back for most along with TV.
If you use the audyssey app, have a calibrated mike, and REW (Room EQ Wizard), you should check out ratbuddyssey: https://www.avsforum.com/forum/90-re...app-files.html
It allows you to customize the app profile on a PC. If I can sneak a mike past my wife, I'm going to try it out. Hmmm, Christmas present?