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Has @imagic ever reviewed any DIYSG speakers? Heck, when he reviewed cheap Behringer and Monoprice pro speakers for home theater use a whole bunch of folks were introduced to the concept and jumped on them.
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18hurts that was an impressive discussion, The best I have ever seen discussing the various models from the standpoint of someone who understands design, even if you have not heard many of them.

Ive heard many if not most, and your inferences are pretty spot on.

Im going to suggest, since you have done the best job of this so far the following (since I like diysg very much and want it to do well, and i have no say in their plans or vested interests driving my comment)....

Im going to suggest Erich H send you sample kits to try out, discuss and review so that your opinions become even more informed. Perhaps you ship back some of them and maybe keep your favorites?

Informed reviews by knowledgable people -- especially those with pro experience or crossover design knowledge would push the marketing to a new level imo.

And instead of my layperson comments i.e. the htms do sound better than Xxx...it becomes your opinion better informed by your experiences.

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I agree. The ability to collect your thoughts and write coherently in a way that an end user with less knowledge will understand, yet those who have more knowledge won't come away missing anything, is rare and makes all the difference.
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Whatever happened with the buyout 15" subwoofer?
I saw it several days ago listed for $1.00 with a "sold out" sign.
Did it sell out in 24 hours or just hasn't been listed yet?

I'm in the market for four 12's or two 15's for large vented enclosure and am looking for the cheapest decent sub option available.

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None have been put in stock yet. I'm picking them up from Eminence next week.
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Hi Erich,


Curious- will the Fusion-8 Tower return to the line-up?


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@18Hurts ...

I didn't want to clutter up the place any more quoting you, but I wanted to pass along to you that I enjoyed your post here (#162). I found it outright entertaining as well as interesting perspectives.

Somewhat like you, I use an 88 Special for center (due to available space restrictions...see photos), two HTM-12s for L/R mains, and Volt-10s for surrounds...in a pretty large room. That gets to the point I wanted to bring up. I don't often see DIYSG discussions specifically addressing their performance in "large" rooms. Having been through quite a string of models of speakers in my room over the last 20 years, it was not until the evolution reached the DIYSG models that my "nirvana" was found. This was primarily relative to output capability, but also without stress and distortion that so many other speakers had exhibited in here. In purely subjective terms, I call the sound quality that is gained "authority."

I suppose there are compromises in everything, but the cumulative positives add up in a hurry with the DIYSG models. Even size compared to output is impressive. What some here would call true high-end high fidelity speakers would have to be considerably larger to have the same output without pretty significant stress/distortion issues. And the controlled directivity is a huge factor/benefit.

Like you, I have not heard the Titans, but also like you, it strikes me as a very good design. That waveguide combo of the Titans really looks like it would be terrific. I could fit them in as my L/R mains, but I'm stuck with the 88 Special. That said, I'm not so sure that I want to abandon the HTM-12. But it's hardly like you have to mortgage your house to have a little fun like that with DIYSG. I bet I'll eventually give a pair of the Titans a try.

You like to type a lot more than me, but ... I enjoy your posts if I can get through them. Cheers
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Any info on this 3-way? I can't be the only one intrigued!


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I'm looking forward to the HTM-8 and HT series too. If you scope out the front page, it looks like Erich has added the HT series specs and prices. In this hobby, $1500 for front 3 speakers from DIYSG is going to be a performance monster and tremendous value, but not everyone wants to go full bore. The HT options look to give the big WG options on a budget diet. Looking good!! I've got a couple of buddies that will be very interested.
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I'm very interested in the HT line as well. The HTM line was out of my budget but these HT's may be doable at some point.
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I'll give a plug for the mid-bass modules that I bought off of DIYSG the last few months. I put one behind each of the 5 seats in my theater for a little tactile oompf.

Getting their timing setup right is a bit tricky and I'm considering a minidsp specific to the set in order to better time things better. right now they are summed but that can lead to some strange issues.

Otherwise, these did exactly what I intended and gave me some nice "chest punch region" tactile bass that I can tune to taste.

crossover is around 70hz to be sure i cant hear them and they are turned down a bit compared to my subs as well.
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I believe Jeff Bagby mentioned recently on another forum that he was doing a design with Be tweeters which presumably would be available via diysoundgroup.

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I believe Jeff Bagby mentioned recently on another forum that he was doing a design with Be tweeters which presumably would be available via diysoundgroup.

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That’s interesting, I have heard nothing but good things about Be tweeters


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I believe Jeff Bagby mentioned recently on another forum that he was doing a design with Be tweeters which presumably would be available via diysoundgroup.

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Be seems a bit too Gucci for DIYSG, he's already made at least one for Madisound. You sure he said he was making one for Eric too?
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Be seems a bit too Gucci for DIYSG, he's already made at least one for Madisound. You sure he said he was making one for Eric too?
That was my assumption (diysoundgroup) but forgot about it possibly being for Madisound.

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15 inch buyout subs are up on site! Get em while you can as 2 are already gone
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regarding the buyout 15's...

A friend of mine is looking to reuse/upgrade a nicely veneered Klipsch SW15 cabinet. The SW15 has about 4cuft of airspace with a 15" woofer on the front /15" passive on the back with a 200w amp. I was thinking about suggesting he remove the oe woofer/radiator combo and mount two buyout 15's opposed (sealed) with maybe a Crown xls1502 pushing them. Is his Klipsch cabinet too small for dual buyout 15's? Would the performance improvement be worth the money and effort?

The SW15 stock is -3db @ 27hz but response drops off the cliff below that. He was looking at upgrade ideas that would give him a bit more extension as well as a little more overall output. Any other suggestions/recommendations are welcome as always.

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regarding the buyout 15's...

A friend of mine is looking to reuse/upgrade a nicely veneered Klipsch SW15 cabinet. The SW15 has about 4cuft of airspace with a 15" woofer on the front /15" passive on the back with a 200w amp. I was thinking about suggesting he remove the oe woofer/radiator combo and mount two buyout 15's opposed (sealed) with maybe a Crown xls1502 pushing them. Is his Klipsch cabinet too small for dual buyout 15's? Would the performance improvement be worth the money and effort?

The SW15 stock is -3db @ 27hz but response drops off the cliff below that. He was looking at upgrade ideas that would give him a bit more extension as well as a little more overall output. Any other suggestions/recommendations are welcome as always.

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You could use them dual opposed in that cabinet but be ready to add a shelf filter to extend the LF response. Because these drivers are fairly sensitive and have a strong motor they will naturally roll off between ~50hz (f3) and 40hz (f10) in that sealed enclosure. You may see only a small improvement around the PR tuning of that original design but above and below that range there should be pretty good output gains.
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Is the buyout 15' a sort of Lab 15" clone?
Suitable for THT maybe?
$150 is a bit more than I was expecting for a 14mm xmax on buyout.
A very nice deal. Just, I guess I was expecting a slightly smaller price tag.

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Is the buyout 15' a sort of Lab 15" clone?

Suitable for THT maybe?

$150 is a bit more than I was expecting for a 14mm xmax on buyout.

A very nice deal. Just, I guess I was expecting a slightly smaller price tag.

Read the thread in HiFiCircuit. It will work in a horn and they recommend some box sizes for sealed and ported.



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You could use them dual opposed in that cabinet but be ready to add a shelf filter to extend the LF response. Because these drivers are fairly sensitive and have a strong motor they will naturally roll off between ~50hz (f3) and 40hz (f10) in that sealed enclosure. You may see only a small improvement around the PR tuning of that original design but above and below that range there should be pretty good output gains.
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Is the buyout 15' a sort of Lab 15" clone?
Suitable for THT maybe?
$150 is a bit more than I was expecting for a 14mm xmax on buyout.
A very nice deal. Just, I guess I was expecting a slightly smaller price tag.
They would have been less, but there's $20 added in for "free shipping" because they weigh 29lbs each. Then a $4.50 Paypal fee (3%), then about $3 for packaging material. I was going to try to put two per box, which would lower the shipping a little bit. But kind of worried about 60lbs in one package.
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Love that your not too far away and local pickup would be an option for me


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Just ordered 2 pair of HTM-8’s
These will be used as side and rear surrounds in basement dedicated home theater, replacing decent 2008 paradigm adp-390’s.



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Awesome. The elusive HTM-8's are real. So many people have asked about them I bet they sell well.
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Very nice! I was looking closely at the HTM-8's for the same thing but they won't find in my wall mounts. They have a max of 11" wide so I'll be going with Volt-8's since they are 11'' wide.
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After these are built and installed then 3 pair of HT-6’s for front wides, front heights, rear heights. I’ve already got volt-10’s for top mid.
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I am very curious to see how the HT line compares to the HTM line. The HT line has a very friendly price.
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After these are built and installed then 3 pair of HT-6’s for front wides, front heights, rear heights. I’ve already got volt-10’s for top mid.
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