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That makes sense. Just trying to find an option so you can buy something now and start building!


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Looking forward since hopefully I'll finish my Cinema Towers in the next week or two, I need to order a AVR.



How does this unit look?



https://www.accessories4less.com/mak...-w/heos/1.html



It'll do 4k pass-through, Atmos and is a 7.2 even though I'll only be doing a 2.1 setup for the time being.
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Looking forward since hopefully I'll finish my Cinema Towers in the next week or two, I need to order a AVR.



How does this unit look?



https://www.accessories4less.com/mak...-w/heos/1.html



It'll do 4k pass-through, Atmos and is a 7.2 even though I'll only be doing a 2.1 setup for the time being.


Personally, wouldn’t get one without audessy xt32, especially if you plan on doing a full system. I picked up the denon 3500 from them not too long ago.

On a good note. Erich said he thinks he has more HT10s in the back and will look. Just waiting for an definitive answer then hopefully I can order em up


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Is Audyssey MultEQ something different than the xt32? I'll be honest, I'm not very familiar with Audyssey and what it does.





And that would be great if he finds a couple HT10s in the back for you!
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Is Audyssey MultEQ something different than the xt32? I'll be honest, I'm not very familiar with Audyssey and what it does.





And that would be great if he finds a couple HT10s in the back for you!


MultiEQ doesn’t do 2 subs separately. It’s for room correction. XT32 is the better one.

Yeah it would be awesome.


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Are the Audyssey options only really something to consider if I plan on actually running Audyssey? Or is it built into the AVR already?
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Are the Audyssey options only really something to consider if I plan on actually running Audyssey? Or is it built into the AVR already?


It’s the receivers built in auto room calibration. I’d want it. Even for resale value. I think most receivers come with some form of auto cal.
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MultiEQ doesn’t do 2 subs separately. It’s for room correction. XT32 is the better one.

Yeah it would be awesome.
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It’s the receivers built in auto room calibration. I’d want it. Even for resale value. I think most receivers come with some form of auto cal.



Thanks for the feedback guys. Figuring out Audyssey will be a whole new challenge for me. As for having the XT32, unfortunately getting an AVR with that feature almost doubles the price and bumps it out of my price range.
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Another update:


The Cinema Towers are coming together nicely and should be done very soon.


Drilled and recessed the holes for the terminal plates.









Also put the compression driver and waveguides together.






Painted the baffles and pre-drilled the driver mounting holes.











- I also ordered a Denon AVR and digital optical cable to connect to my TV
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Great update! Looking real good! Keep it going your getting closer...
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I'm jealous. Great job!
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Thanks Jk. Your current and previous projects have definitely been a major inspiration and motivation for me.






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Thank you. I've been jealous of so many other guys' theater and speaker setups, that I finally decided to build one of my own. I'm flattered someone would say that about mine.
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2 Questions for the near future:

1. I currently have a 4K smartTV. For watching netflix, it plays through my TV. For watching DVDs, I use my PlayStation which is connected to my TV through HDMI. However, as best as I can tell, my TV only has HDMI inputs. No outputs. So would I run my PlayStation to the Denon AVR through HDMI, then into my TV? For hi-def audio out from my TV, should I use the digital optical output? And connect that to the AVR? Is that the optimum setup? Or use the 3.5mm audio output?

2. The gasket tape that came with my cinema10s, that’s for the wave guide, correct? And I apply the tape to the baffle, then install the wave guide?

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2 Questions for the near future:

1. I currently have a 4K smartTV. For watching netflix, it plays through my TV. For watching DVDs, I use my PlayStation which is connected to my TV through HDMI. However, as best as I can tell, my TV only has HDMI inputs. No outputs. So would I run my PlayStation to the Denon AVR through HDMI, then into my TV?
Yes. That is all you need to do
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2 Questions for the near future:

1. I currently have a 4K smartTV. For watching netflix, it plays through my TV. For watching DVDs, I use my PlayStation which is connected to my TV through HDMI. However, as best as I can tell, my TV only has HDMI inputs. No outputs. So would I run my PlayStation to the Denon AVR through HDMI, then into my TV? For hi-def audio out from my TV, should I use the digital optical output? And connect that to the AVR? Is that the optimum setup? Or use the 3.5mm audio output?

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1) In general if you have a receiver all of your source devices should plug into it and run one hdmi from the receiver to the TV (or projector) for video. If you have sources where that is not possible to plug into the receiver first (antenna for over the air tv that requires the tv tuner for example), and both your TV and Receiver support ARC, you can send the audio to the receiver along that same HDMI cable. So you no longer need a separate cord for running audio back from the TV to the receiver. Otherwise, optical audio is another good option, and is a better than the 3.5mm output.

2) I havent built any DIYSG speakers so I am not sure on number 2, but for what its worth that sounds right, assuming the speakers come with gasket pre-installed on the back of them. Both the speakers and the waveguide should have some sort of gasket between them and the wood.

UPDATE: I updated my response to 1) thanks to user "imrf" pointing out that ARC exists, not sure how that slipped my mind
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2. The gasket tape that came with my cinema10s, that’s for the wave guide, correct? And I apply the tape to the baffle, then install the wave guide?

Thanks

Here is a pic of my gasket I put behind my waveguide.
As I recall, my cinema 10’s didn’t require a gasket on the woofers. They had something on them already.
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Johnson636 - Thanks for the feedback.

Adam Clark - Ok, thanks for clarification. I’ll use the digital optical cord to get sound from my TV to the AVR.

Jk - Thank you, yes that is the correct. The woofers already have a gasket on them. I’ll apply the gasket tape to the baffle.
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Johnson636 - Thanks for the feedback.

Adam Clark - Ok, thanks for clarification. I’ll use the digital optical cord to get sound from my TV to the AVR.

Jk - Thank you, yes that is the correct. The woofers already have a gasket on them. I’ll apply the gasket tape to the baffle.


You don’t need to use an optical cable for that. Use the ARC input on your tv from your receiver and the tv will pass audio to the receiver. Read the manual of the tv to find out which one supports arc and you should be good to go. Less fuss.


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Is that tape from PE or somewhere else?


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You don’t need to use an optical cable for that. Use the ARC input on your tv from your receiver and the tv will pass audio to the receiver. Read the manual of the tv to find out which one supports arc and you should be good to go. Less fuss.


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I’ll check when I get home, but I don’t recall seeing an ARC plug. Are you saying that an ARC plug can be both input and output? Even if it’s listed as an input? IIRC, my tv didn’t have any HDMI outputs.
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I’ll check when I get home, but I don’t recall seeing an ARC plug. Are you saying that an ARC plug can be both input and output? Even if it’s listed as an input? IIRC, my tv didn’t have any HDMI outputs.
It totally slipped my mind that ARC exists, thanks imrf, yes he is saying that a single HDMI port can both send video from the receiver to the TV, and audio from the TV to the receiver. If your TV supports it, it will usually be labeled next to the input, and should be mentioned in the manual. All HDMI ports do not support it. Pic below for example.

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Adam & imrf - thanks for the info. I’ll check when I get home. I think I remember seeing an ARC plug, but I thought it was labeled as an input. So I’ll run an HDMI from the ARC plug to my AVR, but only for the sound signal basically? And the digital optical cord I already got, I don’t need?
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Adam & imrf - thanks for the info. I’ll check when I get home. I think I remember seeing an ARC plug, but I thought it was labeled as an input. So I’ll run an HDMI from the ARC plug to my AVR, but only for the sound signal basically? And the digital optical cord I already got, I don’t need?


Correct. ARC is a two way port. It sends audio and video between the two.


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Does ARC support a 5.1 or 7.2 Atmos setup?
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Does ARC support a 5.1 or 7.2 Atmos setup?

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In review....

Plug your playstation into one of your HDMI ports on your receiver.
Plug your receiver's HDMI output to your TV's ARC input.
Drink a beer.

As long as your receiver and TV support ARC, you won't need to do anything else. The HDMI cable between your TV and receiver becomes a two-way street.

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Does ARC support a 5.1 or 7.2 Atmos setup?


eARC does. Most TVs don’t output Atmos anyways and optical won’t either.


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Ok, checked my TV and I do have a "4K ARC HDMI" port. I'll plan on using that to the AVR. Now I just need to get the Cinema Towers finished and wait for my AVR to arrive!
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