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Looking great like usual. While I'm still hear waiting to veneer mine lol. I like the idea of the horns or the 21b&c ds115. The system sounds awesome now but you know I have a love for horn designs lol

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Behind the screen just to play with them? Not sure if the 4 hst’s are as loud as two lil wreckers would be. The upper bass and overall impact would probably be better with the horns.



Am I reading this correctly - two lil wreckers would be louder than 4 HSTs?


Also, great progress Jk. The veneer is a good look. I plan to veneer my cinema-10s when I start building them.
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Am I reading this correctly - two lil wreckers would be louder than 4 HSTs?

I’m sure the hst’s win in that battle. But I have been curious about horn loaded subs.
They also have areas they each shine for sure too.
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I know what you mean - I'm still curious and fascinated with building a horn loaded sub, as well as obviously hearing/feeling it.
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I’m sure the hst’s win in that battle. But I have been curious about horn loaded subs.
They also have areas they each shine for sure too.
What about replacing 1 of the HST stacks with a horn? You'd get the best of both worlds, especially if you kept the rear subs in play too.

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What about replacing 1 of the HST stacks with a horn? You'd get the best of both worlds, especially if you kept the rear subs in play too.

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I wouldn’t say ‘replace’. I’ll find somewhere else for those two hst’s to go
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Lol, even better. Turn that side room into a chamber for IB!

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Lol, even better. Turn that side room into a chamber for IB!

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Yeah right back to where I started.
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I wouldn’t say ‘replace’. I’ll find somewhere else for those two hst’s to go


Nearfield! Kick those DS4s to the curb! Lol


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Never! I love the ds4’s.
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Never! I love the ds4’s.


Yeah, they’re pretty awesome where they’re at.


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Got a good 1st coat on these. Getting excited.
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Nice work............those are [email protected]@king SWEET..............

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Thanks. These are my 1st sub project where I care a lot how they look. And they will be speaker stands as well. I hope the speaker feet don’t hurt the veneer or the finish over the years.
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Mad respect @Jk7.2 for your "handiman-ness"! lol
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Thanks! Most of it I learned right here in this forum. The diy speakers and subs section is where I use my battery life every day.
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Thanks. These are my 1st sub project where I care a lot how they look. And they will be speaker stands as well. I hope the speaker feet don’t hurt the veneer or the finish over the years.
Your sub look Gorgeous!

One thing I found....I'm using one Ultimax 18 in a sealed box as a speaker stand for my 893's and one for a surround....I needed to use Earthquake putty to keep the from rotating and or falling off(Ready Player One)
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Your sub look Gorgeous!



One thing I found....I'm using one Ultimax 18 in a sealed box as a speaker stand for my 893's and one for a surround....I needed to use Earthquake putty to keep the from rotating and or falling off(Ready Player One)


Ok thanks that’s good to know. I’m not sure these closeout 15” woofers will be that strong..... but now that I’m thinking about it, this setup will most likely dance like mad all over with my theater full of hst’s is going full blast! It’s directly above the theater.
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Thanks. These are my 1st sub project where I care a lot how they look. And they will be speaker stands as well. I hope the speaker feet don’t hurt the veneer or the finish over the years.


I went the cheap and easy route, I grabbed a roll of automotive carpet from work and cut a pair of pads out for each speaker to put them on my subs. Just enough friction to stop them from moving around.


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Ok thanks that’s good to know. I’m not sure these closeout 15” woofers will be that strong..... but now that I’m thinking about it, this setup will most likely dance like mad all over with my theater full of hst’s is going full blast! It’s directly above the theater.
I have my 893s sitting on a couple sealed UM18s. My 893s would walk if I turned it up too loud when I was using some foam pads I had lying around. Then I bought these and the 893s have not moved since... https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

But I do remember reading these could discolor wood, so maybe not for you if that is a concern. I did a dark laminate finish, so I'm not so concerned about any discoloration.

I turn the sharpness on my TV all the way up, because that's how I like my picture... real sharp.


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I have my 893s sitting on a couple sealed UM18s. My 893s would walk if I turned it up too loud when I was using some foam pads I had lying around. Then I bought these and the 893s have not moved since... https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

But I do remember reading these could discolor wood, so maybe not for you if that is a concern. I did a dark laminate finish, so I'm not so concerned about any discoloration.


Ok thanks. I will see what happens. I have rubber feet delivering today for the bottoms of the speakers. I’m thinking that will keep things reasonably tame.
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Ok thanks. I will see what happens. I have rubber feet delivering today for the bottoms of the speakers. I’m thinking that will keep things reasonably tame.


Yeah, rubber feet should work just fine. If not, let me know and I could hook you up with some of this carpet if you want.


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1st coat sanded and second coat applied. I wish this veneer came out just a little darker.
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1st coat sanded and second coat applied. I wish this veneer came out just a little darker.
No...that's perfect. I'm going to follow this exact recipe for my Maximus-12s.
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No...that's perfect. I'm going to follow this exact recipe for my Maximus-12s.


It does highlight grain in a sexy manner. The cell pic makes it appear just a tad lighter too. And with the lights off, they look super dark. But switch a light on and they glow. I love it. With black baffles these will pop.
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Nice progress so far. I like the darker color you chose. I think I'll stain my subwoofer cabinets a similar color as well as the Cinema-10s when I get going on them.


This Waterlox stuff you mention, do you put a coat of polyurethane over it too? Or is it a stain and polyurethane in one?
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Nice progress so far. I like the darker color you chose. I think I'll stain my subwoofer cabinets a similar color as well as the Cinema-10s when I get going on them.


This Waterlox stuff you mention, do you put a coat of polyurethane over it too? Or is it a stain and polyurethane in one?


It’s a tung oil product. It waterproofs and brings out the natural color of the wood. It’s not a polyurethane, and it doesn’t require a top coat. I hope I described it right. Look it up, they have a nice website.
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Dude you and I have DIY fever!
Nice build you have got going.
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Dude you and I have DIY fever!

Nice build you have got going.


Thanks I’ve been watching yours as well. I’m seriously considering doing a flat black paint instead of duratex on the baffles like you used on your boxes. I just have trouble with the minor inconsistencies that you get unless you spray the duratex. Anything that I can pick up locally for this purpose to roll on?
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a small Devilbiss cup gun, D'tex let down close to 50%, pressure lowered to about 50 psi and then you of course have a valve on the gun too
over 2 coats of well prepped , sanded , etc. black primer,
a cool surface and in the shade,

can be good for smaller boxes, panels,
said the guy who also sprayed his 88Specials

no banding as a roller might

for rolling i have a burned out 1/4" weenie roller but the prep is key . .
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