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Volt 10 Atmos Build: bought for the epic packaging, kept them for the sound!

After tackling my first three sub builds last year and loving the results, I thought I’d give my garage (and wife) a break and go with the idiot proof DIYSG Volt 10 version 2 sealed flat packs. These will be replacing four SVS satellites that currently are mounted 12’ high on my front and back walls. It’s not an ideal setup with a 15’ vaulted ceiling in a shared space, but the addition of height speakers two years ago was an excellent upgrade and allows a much more enveloping movie experience.

The SVS have been good little speakers for the money and were easy to mount, which was a large part of their appeal, but I’ve been asking too much of them to keep up with the rest of my gear at sometimes near reference volumes mounted 15’ away from the MLP. Queue DIYSG and their Volt lineup’s excellent reputation to bring my overhead capabilities up to speed.

The DIYSG website says 5-8 days typical shipping times, but I ordered them over the weekend and they shipped Wednesday and arrived on my door today (Friday), so kudos to Erich H! The packaging is phenomenal, as many have alluded to his ninja packing skills; they weren’t lying. Baring a forklift gouge, the contents should easily survive a spill off a truck or accidental drop...my packages were pristine upon arrival so no worries there.

I may build two at a time to save project space on the work bench. With the entire kit ready to glue up and solder, I can already tell this will be a quick build compared to my subwoofers that stretched out to about a month each from start to finish. I won’t be able to officially begin this build until sometime next week, but I have all the extra materials stockpiled and ready to rock.

Some super exciting unboxing photos:

And the front heights that’ll be replaced first:

Speakers: PSA MTM-210T x2, MTM-210C, MT-110SR x2; Atmos-SVS Satellite x2, DIY Volt-10 x2
Subs: PSA V1801 x2, DIY: 18" RSS460HO, 15" RSS390HO x2, BOSS w/JBL CX1200 x6
MA’s: Crowson Tech x2
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Volt 10 Atmos Build: bought for the epic packaging, kept them for the sound!

Reserved for pics and impressions (post 60 for quick listening impressions)

Getting the walls glued up tonight, Tuesday 3/19, and maybe the crossovers soldered. The tolerances are so tight on these cuts just going with Titebond 2 instead of the mess that’s PL Premium that was nice for less precise sub builds. I opted not to use a brad nailer this time...noisy air compressor and everyone is asleep, so now on to the crossovers while waiting on glue to dry.


Dry fit the crossover components first:

Got one crossover finished, second one should make quick work. Half the walls glued up, and it’s little slow going without a brad nailer, might bust it out tomorrow to get moving on the boxes. I have minimal soldering experience outside of my subwoofer cables and a couple computer parts so hopefully they all turned out good connections; I did read up quite a bit for tips and watched a crossover assembly video. There’s a fair number of them on YouTube.

Hopefully the crossover is good!

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Volt 10 Atmos Build: bought for the epic packaging, kept them for the sound!
Just stopping in to say a great thread title. Erich H does pack them like no one else I have seen.
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Looking forward to your impressions!
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Here for the thread title, I'll stay for the build.
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The wife asked me tonight where these are going, even though she knows what Atmos speakers are, she tunes out most of the conversation about my speakers and let me order them as a wedding anniversary present that we celebrated this month (she’s a keeper). She mentioned that they looked big, and I of course said, yep, they’re not dainty. She asked if they were going to be as big as my PSA MT110-SR surrounds, and I explained they are indeed a couple inches wider but shorter overall, but mounted 12’ high off the ground the Volt 10’s will seem much smaller.

I was going to order up some Duratex from PE to finally see what all the hype is about, but decided to just get a gallon of flat black mixed up for $20 while I was at Lowe’s vs $80 for Duratex. I used a deep brown latex paint on my subs, and really liked the results. I’m not concerned about durability, as I’m not planning on bringing any of my gear on the road any time soon, but latex paint definitely scuffs more easily. Maybe if I build any base layer speakers one day that the kids will be around I’ll invest in a better finish, but the PSA coating on all my gear that’s accessible to little hands is practically bullet proof.

I can’t wait until I have a few days off next week to get to work on these!

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Can't wait to read your impressions and follow your build. Thanks for sharing.
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Finally diving in tonight, updating first two posts as I go. I’d like to do all four at once but I’m working a lot lately, so sticking with two speakers for now that’ll be easier to finish and mount. Probably won’t get to finish them until I get another break next week, but with the ease of this build I might be able to squeeze in at least some primer this week.

Cutting a 2” hole for the terminal cups and predrilling the crossover holes and figuring out how I’m going with to mount them before I get the baffle on. I have a pair of French cleat hangers I’ll likely go with, but I need to cut the proper angle in the board I’m going to mount them to on the wall first and calculate all that out. Will be more of a pain to do this not having them on an adjustable mount like I have now, as it’ll be a one and done once they’re up.

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Volt 10 Atmos Build: bought for the epic packaging, kept them for the sound!

The little brass screws that came with the kit for the crossover are a bit short and looks like only maybe only one or two threads will even go into the box when using the plastic stand offs, so I’m worried about stability. I’ve read all sorts of good ways to mount the crossover in the box, but these screws definitely don’t instill confidence...might pick up some longer ones. Guess I could just ditch the standoffs, but I’d rather not.

Edit: so I test screwed one into some MDF and it does go in a bit further into the standoff and almost flush with the board so they should be fine!


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Subs: PSA V1801 x2, DIY: 18" RSS460HO, 15" RSS390HO x2, BOSS w/JBL CX1200 x6
MA’s: Crowson Tech x2
Processing: Denon X4200, NU6KDSP, 3KDSP
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May also want to hot glue the components to keep them quiet.
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May also want to hot glue the components to keep them quiet.

Already hot glued them down when soldering the components to the board, thanks though. I’ve seen some people hot glue the entire board to the cabinet, but I don’t think that’ll be necessary...hopefully four screws will secure it enough not to vibrate against the cab.

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Your solder joints look excellent! I'm looking forward to your listening impressions.

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Volt 10 Atmos Build: bought for the epic packaging, kept them for the sound!

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Your solder joints look excellent! I'm looking forward to your listening impressions.



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Thanks, I know it’s the part that worry most first timers so hope it’s all put together properly. Just assembled the crossover based on one picture from the Volt assembly help forum. I was hoping to get all my wiring hooked up and a free air test of the components tonight, but it looks like that’s not going to happen. Been playing with the kids all day while they’re out of school, and I got the terminal cup holes drilled out and crossover pilot holes in, but that was all I accomplished chasing a toddler around most the day.

I bet I can assemble the next two boxes in a single day next time with the brad nailer and knock both crossovers out. Going to pop the baffle on these two before I go to bed and then can start sanding and finishing on my break next week.

Speakers: PSA MTM-210T x2, MTM-210C, MT-110SR x2; Atmos-SVS Satellite x2, DIY Volt-10 x2
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Volt 10 Atmos Build: bought for the epic packaging, kept them for the sound!

Angled baffles definitely take a little more finesse to get straight; surely there’s a better method from pro wood workers. Before glueing the baffle, I sanded down both edges on the baffle lip that over hangs the bottom, because the roundover on the stock baffle doesn’t account for the excess at the 25 degree angle and sticks out a good 1/4” (thanks to whoever posted this in another build thread). It still hangs over a bit but will be less sanding later. I really wanted to get the table saw out and precisely cut the lip off, but I’ve had a couple beers tonight, so that idea was quickly tabled.

I used PL Premium on one edge on both boxes that had a very small gap still and Titebond II on the other three; maybe overkill, but I needed to open a new tube for some home repairs anyway.



Speakers: PSA MTM-210T x2, MTM-210C, MT-110SR x2; Atmos-SVS Satellite x2, DIY Volt-10 x2
Subs: PSA V1801 x2, DIY: 18" RSS460HO, 15" RSS390HO x2, BOSS w/JBL CX1200 x6
MA’s: Crowson Tech x2
Processing: Denon X4200, NU6KDSP, 3KDSP
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A little Bondo to fill that discontinuity and a quick hit with the belt sander and you'll be good to go. If you plan on a more revealing finish than Duratex, then you may not want to use a belt sander, instead choosing something less aggressive. For the other edges of your enclosure, a router trim bit is your friend!

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Volt 10 Atmos Build: bought for the epic packaging, kept them for the sound!

I talked with Erich H about the roundover on the baffle to confirm it’s a 3/4” radius. He was a little concerned about attempting to roundover the angled enclosure. I have to admit, I hadn’t thought much about it being an issue, but I haven’t done roundovers on anything that wasn’t squared up. My plan was to flush trim all the edges and then round over and see how it looks.

I’ve only done up to a 1/2” roundover on previous projects, but I really like the look of a 3/4” radius that all my PSA gear has. So I ordered a 3/4” bit, and read up some on a few woodworking forums for what’s considered too much of a roundover for 3/4” material and the general consensus was unless the corners are backed or braced with a thicker material, a 3/4” radius would be excessive and eat into the board joints; I’m more worried about enclosure stability than whether a crease will be visible as it’ll all be sanded smooth and filled before finishing. Will test some scrap MDF with a 3/4” radius and see how it goes.

Anyone have advice here?

I’m going to wire up everything for a free air test hopefully Tuesday and start finishing the boxes; my goal is to get them done this week in my spare time. Hopefully the weather holds up for quick sanding and routing outdoors (hate MDF dust), but we are getting into the rainy season.
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MA’s: Crowson Tech x2
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Volt 10 Atmos Build: bought for the epic packaging, kept them for the sound!

Sanded down really quick with 60 and 80 grit, all set to roundover tomorrow hopefully outdoors and get some coats of primer on. The seams are nearly perfect and the only fill required will be for a couple tiny scratches and microscopic cracks along the joints in a few small spots.

I hit the straight/side edges with a flush trim router first that had PL Premium to make quick work of it and chiseled off the angled edge that a trim bit wouldn’t be flush with. This is probably 10 times less sanding than my last three subs to get a nice even finish, but it’s a lot less material to work with so small imperfections are easy to correct (CNC precision is awesome).

Going to have to find some more quick connects tomorrow for the wires as my shipment was lost in transit this week and the huge assorted box I have on hand is down to everything but the ones I need, lol figures.

Some amazing photos of a box with my high end photography setup (iPhone + shop light):

Speakers: PSA MTM-210T x2, MTM-210C, MT-110SR x2; Atmos-SVS Satellite x2, DIY Volt-10 x2
Subs: PSA V1801 x2, DIY: 18" RSS460HO, 15" RSS390HO x2, BOSS w/JBL CX1200 x6
MA’s: Crowson Tech x2
Processing: Denon X4200, NU6KDSP, 3KDSP
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It might not look a lot different than the previous pics, but here’s a few hours of hand sanding and routing. I went with a 1/2” roundover instead of 3/4”, and am glad I didn’t go bigger. Ready to prime just in time before I go watch the movie “Us”.


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Subs: PSA V1801 x2, DIY: 18" RSS460HO, 15" RSS390HO x2, BOSS w/JBL CX1200 x6
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Volt 10 Atmos Build: bought for the epic packaging, kept them for the sound!

Always loved the contrast of the first coats of primer! Will black out the speaker recess shortly. Those little $3 wood tri-dolly from HF work great for painting smaller projects.



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The little brass screws that came with the kit for the crossover are a bit short and looks like only maybe only one or two threads will even go into the box when using the plastic stand offs, so I’m worried about stability. I’ve read all sorts of good ways to mount the crossover in the box, but these screws definitely don’t instill confidence...might pick up some longer ones. Guess I could just ditch the standoffs, but I’d rather not.

Edit: so I test screwed one into some MDF and it does go in a bit further into the standoff and almost flush with the board so they should be fine!

I got longer screws for securing my crossovers. I didn't try the included screws, but concluded they didn't have enough threads to satisfy me. I got brass 3/4" #6 screws.

What primer did you use? I made my own custom 45 degree wedge boxes out of Baltic Birch. I plan to paint them with latex paint that matches the ceiling.
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I got longer screws for securing my crossovers. I didn't try the included screws, but concluded they didn't have enough threads to satisfy me. I got brass 3/4" #6 screws.



What primer did you use? I made my own custom 45 degree wedge boxes out of Baltic Birch. I plan to paint them with latex paint that matches the ceiling.

Nice, any build pics? Did you find it more challenging building an angled enclosure from scratch?

I used Bullseye 2 primer, dries quick and ready to sand in an hour or less, haven’t use any other primer though. It worked great for my last three sub boxes that I used latex on to match my furniture. I’m thinking of adding a third coat tomorrow to eliminate the chances of a seam popping through the latex, but two coats of primer is plenty to seal the surface when sanded well between coats. I thought about using my beige wall color paint I have on hand, but we’re planning on moving in a year, so a flat black latex box it is.

I agree about the screws, I also picked up some 3/4” brass screws as the 1/2” #4 (I think) the kit comes with for the crossover mount don’t instill much confidence for mounting vertical in the box.

Had I made my own baffle, it would have probably saved me a good chunk of time spent hand sanding to fit the angled flatpack properly, but with a lot of love they turned out pretty darn good I think and the point of buying all the flatpacks this time was also to save on the garage mess of MDF and its negative WAF.

The 3/4” roundover on the included baffle definitely has to be sanded down a lot and reshaped because of overhang, and can’t use a flush trim bit on the angled edge very well, so it made finishing much more time consuming than I initially estimated, but it fits well and I like the small recess that negated router and table saw time making my own, so it probably evens out on effort needed. Even with the extra finishing effort, these are still lightning quick to put together compared to a box from scratch.

I’m excited to finish up the paint tomorrow and get the wiring all soldered up and ready to connect for a free air test, might just use alligator clips to test them first.

Speakers: PSA MTM-210T x2, MTM-210C, MT-110SR x2; Atmos-SVS Satellite x2, DIY Volt-10 x2
Subs: PSA V1801 x2, DIY: 18" RSS460HO, 15" RSS390HO x2, BOSS w/JBL CX1200 x6
MA’s: Crowson Tech x2
Processing: Denon X4200, NU6KDSP, 3KDSP
Video: Epson 3700; Screen: Silver Ticket 106" High Contrast

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Nice, any build pics? Did you find it more challenging building an angled enclosure from scratch?

I used Bullseye 2 primer, dries quick and ready to sand in an hour or less, haven’t use any other primer though. It worked great for my last three sub boxes that I used latex on to match my furniture. I’m thinking of adding a third coat tomorrow to eliminate the chances of a seam popping through the latex, but two coats of primer is plenty to seal the surface when sanded well between coats. I thought about using my beige wall color paint I have on hand, but we’re planning on moving in a year, so a flat black latex box it is.

I agree about the screws, I also picked up some 3/4” brass screws as the 1/2” #4 (I think) the kit comes with for the crossover mount don’t instill much confidence for mounting vertical in the box.

Had I made my own baffle, it would have probably saved me a good chunk of time spent hand sanding to fit the angled flatpack properly, but with a lot of love they turned out pretty darn good I think and the point of buying all the flatpacks this time was also to save on the garage mess of MDF and its negative WAF.

The 3/4” roundover on the included baffle definitely has to be sanded down a lot and reshaped because of overhang, and can’t use a flush trim bit on the angled edge very well, so it made finishing much more time consuming than I initially estimated, but it fits well and I like the small recess that negated router and table saw time making my own, so it probably evens out on effort needed. Even with the extra finishing effort, these are still lightning quick to put together compared to a box from scratch.

I’m excited to finish up the paint tomorrow and get the wiring all soldered up and ready to connect for a free air test, might just use alligator clips to test them first.
I took a couple of pictures for you. I'm using a Kilz Premium water based primer on them (never used it before). I've stained/dyed and put poly on my last few projects and use a gloss black laminate on another. I primed the side going to the ceiling and mounting ring with a foam brush. I plan to roll the rest of the box with a 3/8" nap roller and then roll the latex on it.







IMHO, making an angled box is much harder than a standard box (which I've built lots of over the years). Because of the 45 degree angle you can't clamp some of the pieces with standard bar clamps which makes assembly and gluing more challenging. I ended up making something like a boat cradle with 45 degree sides to hold the boxes so I could clamp the front baffle on with standard bar clamps. I'm pretty darn meticulous when cutting to wood, but it wasn't really enough. They look fine, but don't put a L square to them. They're slightly racked despite all the seams going together tight. I think a CNC to cut the pieces would have definitely helped.
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I took a couple of pictures for you. I'm using a Kilz Premium water based primer on them (never used it before). I've stained/dyed and put poly on my last few projects and use a gloss black laminate on another. I primed the side going to the ceiling and mounting ring with a foam brush. I plan to roll the rest of the box with a 3/8" nap roller and then roll the latex on it.















IMHO, making an angled box is much harder than a standard box (which I've built lots of over the years). Because of the 45 degree angle you can't clamp some of the pieces with standard bar clamps which makes assembly and gluing more challenging. I ended up making something like a boat cradle with 45 degree sides to hold the boxes so I could clamp the front baffle on with standard bar clamps. I'm pretty darn meticulous when cutting to wood, but it wasn't really enough. They look fine, but don't put a L square to them. They're slightly racked despite all the seams going together tight. I think a CNC to cut the pieces would have definitely helped.

Awesome build! Those will blend into the room nicely when painted to match your walls.

Clamping was definitely troublesome throughout on these boxes, requiring a little creativity on my portable table that comes in handy for breathing room off the work bench. Having stability while hand routing required some 2x4’ inserts into the speaker enclosure so I could clamp it down properly; that was another reason I didn’t go with a larger roundover, don’t really feel safe wielding a 3/4” bit by hand on a not completely stable surface; I miss having access to a professional router table.

An four sided angled box like yours looks deceptively easy from a design standpoint, but of course that’s often the quickest part.

I imagine Kilz is the same as Bullseye, both water based, at least the one I have. I’ve used stain and poly on a bunch of projects over the years, but using a paint roller is so much easier with primer and latex for speakers.

Drop some pics when you get them done!

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Having stability while hand routing required some 2x4’ inserts into the speaker enclosure so I could clamp it down properly; that was another reason I didn’t go with a larger roundover, don’t really feel safe wielding a 3/4” bit by hand on a not completely stable surface; I miss having access to a professional router table.
I used a very slight roundover on all my edges. I got to use my Bosch router table for the first time (held the router by hand on prior enclosures) and I'm not real thrilled with the router table. The top is all metal, but it's not flat enough IMHO. There's maybe .5 to .75mm of variance across it, so with a slight roundover you have parts along the edge of the piece where it was too deep and parts where it wasn't quite deep enough as you pull it across the surface. I haven't exactly sorted out how I'm going to level it. I'm thinking to use something like 40 grit in my random orbital and try to knock down the high spots using a straight edge as a guide to find the high spots.
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I used a very slight roundover on all my edges. I got to use my Bosch router table for the first time (held the router by hand on prior enclosures) and I'm not real thrilled with the router table. The top is all metal, but it's not flat enough IMHO. There's maybe .5 to .75mm of variance across it, so with a slight roundover you have parts along the edge of the piece where it was too deep and parts where it wasn't quite deep enough as you pull it across the surface. I haven't exactly sorted out how I'm going to level it. I'm thinking to use something like 40 grit in my random orbital and try to knock down the high spots using a straight edge as a guide to find the high spots.

Ouch, that does sound like a pain. This was why I was hesitant to purchase any of the store bought router tables when I seriously considered one last year, a lot of mixed reviews on how well they work; I mean a flush and level surface should be the main feature of a table along with depth adjustments and easy tool access, even on these starter tables...they’re not industrial grade but they should still work as intended!

Wood working requires meticulous attention to detail. Those tolerances for a smooth work surface might be acceptable to the manufacturer, but the dedication to the build requires doing it right regardless how much time is wasted fixing issues that shouldn’t exist. Is it outside of the return window? Good luck cleaning up your edges.

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Wood working requires meticulous attention to detail. Those tolerances for a smooth work surface might be acceptable to the manufacturer, but the dedication to the build requires doing it right regardless how much time is wasted fixing issues that shouldn’t exist. Is it outside of the return window? Good luck cleaning up your edges.
Yeah, I'm way outside the return window. I bought it in Nov. 2016 and it sat in the box until last week. It's a Bosch RA1181. I've been really happy with pretty much all the other Bosch tools I have (Li-Ion drills & drivers, routers, and laser tape measure) so I was a little surprised by it.
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Yeah, I'm way outside the return window. I bought it in Nov. 2016 and it sat in the box until last week. It's a Bosch RA1181. I've been really happy with pretty much all the other Bosch tools I have (Li-Ion drills & drivers, routers, and laser tape measure) so I was a little surprised by it.

Yeah their tools all seem to be great quality, must have outsourced the table design.

Even with little blemishes, I bet your speakers will still look great when you’re not a foot away.

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Always loved the contrast of the first coats of primer! Will black out the speaker recess shortly. Those little $3 wood tri-dolly from HF work great for painting smaller projects.



Nice job, hopefully when i get around to mine, they will turn out good.
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