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GSG Martycube finishing with Wilsonart laminate - what for front baffle?

Hi all,

I have my first gsg martycube together. It went together easily and without incident. I am thinking of doing Wilsonart laminate on the sides and the top. I'm not sure what do do to the front baffle due to how it's constructed. On the front, there is the port and the removable baffle.

Should I use one piece for the whole front and use the router to cut out for the driver and the port? Or, should I just prime and paint the front and use laminate on the removable baffle?

This is my first time using laminate, so I'm still learning. I'm probably going to go with gloss black or possibly a wood grain to match some of my other furniture.
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also anyone have a parts express part number for the speaker terminal cup?
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GSG Martycube finishing with Wilsonart laminate - what for front baffle?

092-054 is the one noted in the gsg shopping list - that’s what I bought but I am not at that stage of my build yet.

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https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/18...cklist_v33.pdf


Edit: that’s for speakon and for 5way binding post they recommend 260-309
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GSG Martycube finishing with Wilsonart laminate - what for front baffle?

@rr14 Check out this sweet Marty cube build with laminate. I believe this person used one sheet for the front and then cut out everything after it was applied. Not sure if the GSG version with the little pins for the interchangeable baffle would cause any problems though.

Post # 24 for the finished build pics.

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Thanks! I read that one a few times previously. Awesome build. If I could get mine to turn out like that I would be very happy.

I’ve also been watching the YouTube video build over and over of the parts express enclosure with the ultimate. That has been very helpful as well.

For now I just need to decide on color of the laminate and then let her rip!
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Thanks! I read that one a few times previously. Awesome build. If I could get mine to turn out like that I would be very happy.

I’ve also been watching the YouTube video build over and over of the parts express enclosure with the ultimate. That has been very helpful as well.

For now I just need to decide on color of the laminate and then let her rip!

I I think they said it was their first time laminating too! You seem to be doing the legwork, so I’m sure yours will turn out great. Good luck!

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092-054 is the one noted in the gsg shopping list - that’s what I bought but I am not at that stage of my build yet.

Page 7 in this...

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/18...cklist_v33.pdf


Edit: that’s for speakon and for 5way binding post they recommend 260-309
thanks. Kevin confirmed. I ordered them today.
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Im not sold on laminate for a GSG kit.

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Im not sold on laminate for a GSG kit.


There was a question in that?
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given the surface to show around the driver,
depending on the "decor" factor,
this looked sweet :http://www.formica.com/us/~/media/no...h=100&w=62&s=2

YMMV

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Im not sold on laminate for a GSG kit.

I'd love to hear more. Is it because if the baffle surface isn't completely level with the "sides" then it'll be weird or something along those lines?

I know it likely isn't ideal and I'm still trying to formulate ideas. i thought about laminate on the sides and top, but was left with the question "what about the rectangle around the front face?" I thought about painting it matte black or flat black. Once I got beyond that, I was thinking about what to do with the baffle.

I'm not really interested in painting because I just don't get the results with the quality of work I do versus the laminate. I've done duratex before but I need something that will look better for the wife and blend in with a bunch of built in cabinets in the room.
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nexus99 thoughts on the laminate? Holding off on ordering to hear the opposing opinion or feedback. I've watched your video a few times now and am curious.
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post some pics of the decorating challenges
and possibilities you are considering . .

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^^ +1. What's the problem that needs solving?
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hi guys. There are channels (about 1/8" grooves) that are a consideration. The baffle is designed to be removable; it'll be hard to keep it this way with laminate. Here are a few photos
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TY for the detailed pics, it shows the need for finesse / creativity

especially as that line /dado /groove is only at the top of the panel

could some delicate work with a table saw / router allow a blades/ bits "thickness" trim on the left/right/ bottom edges to create that spacing or the look of it / a minor dado on all 4 edges?

if so, then that's a step toward uniformity.
while it sounds like a PITA, it will provide either an accent or transition "line" between the cabinet edges and that front showpiece panel.
next is to find a thin flat headed security or elevator or carriage bolt to be recessed flush into the front of the panel. i.e. not using the supplied bolts.
a recessed nut on the backside will prevent any spinout issues.
it is a permanent install.

you use the same internal wingnut /washer attachment setup
so it can now be uniformly / completely veneered / formica'd .

personally, not having the bolts/capheads showing > a better look ?

why am I thinking of the classic Frankenstein "bolts showing in your neck" meme while composing this ?
that look isn't for just anybody . . . or any sub I'd want to occasionally look at without cracking up- JS

now, about that "fitting in with the decor" issue . . .

what should / must that look like?

presumably, you're not putting these subs in "The Laboratory" for tunes while you're waiting for a lightning storm . .

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ordered the laminate from home depot yesterday. I ordered the 5 x 12 for about $145 in a mahogany type color to match the stuff in the room it's going into.

As far as trimming the edges, any tips or suggestions? I saw/heard the tip from the video about having the depth on the router to be barely enough to cut through the piece so as not the cut the piece next to it on the neighboring panel.

i have a flush trim bit from a "bargain" type set. Should I spend the money and buy a newer, nicer one? My thought is that one without as much wear may cut better or cleaner.
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As far as trimming the edges, any tips or suggestions? I saw/heard the tip from the video about having the depth on the router to be barely enough to cut through the piece so as not the cut the piece next to it on the neighboring panel.

i have a flush trim bit from a "bargain" type set. Should I spend the money and buy a newer, nicer one? My thought is that one without as much wear may cut better or cleaner.
I use these for the initial flush cuts https://www.amazon.com/Amana-Tool-51...9K6H5RK5VSTBEB

Then this one on edges that meet another laminated surface (think top meeting side) https://www.amazon.com/Freud-Solid-C...KS69D7HXD&th=1

Then file the edges to smooth them up (laminate can be very sharp).

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hi guys. There are channels (about 1/8" grooves) that are a consideration. The baffle is designed to be removable; it'll be hard to keep it this way with laminate. Here are a few photos
Do you feel you would ever remove the outer baffle? If not, were it me I would permanently set all the panels, then simply fill that ~1/8" groove with wood filler. Sand it down, laminate over everything, done.
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