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what is everyone going to use to power these?


In the future, a pro lite 7.5 most likely or a clone.


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I tried to buy one of these a few months back when my Inuke6k died and no one could get it(at a reasonable cost). Ended up with another Behringer. But it was hard to justify $1245 with no DSP for another dB or 2 max, vs $450 with great DSP. I'd be more inclined to splurge with a driver like the Eminence 21.
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I tried to buy one of these a few months back when my Inuke6k died and no one could get it(at a reasonable cost). Ended up with another Behringer. But it was hard to justify $1245 with no DSP for another dB or 2 max, vs $450 with great DSP. I'd be more inclined to splurge with a driver like the Eminence 21.


The pro lite?

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I tried to buy one of these a few months back when my Inuke6k died and no one could get it(at a reasonable cost). Ended up with another Behringer. But it was hard to justify $1245 with no DSP for another dB or 2 max, vs $450 with great DSP. I'd be more inclined to splurge with a driver like the Eminence 21.
I believe there are some good deals to be had on some of the Peavey auction stuff on this site. I remember some IPR's in the listings on databass (duplicated here by a similar user)....

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I tried to buy one of these a few months back when my Inuke6k died and no one could get it(at a reasonable cost). Ended up with another Behringer. But it was hard to justify $1245 with no DSP for another dB or 2 max, vs $450 with great DSP. I'd be more inclined to splurge with a driver like the Eminence 21.
thats what i was curious of..was that 1-2 or DB worth the added cost of not going with an Inuke or similar.

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Reached out today to US speaker to find out what’s up with my second driver. I was told eminence put a ship hold on the drivers. They are built but they are working out shipping packaging right now. Just an FYI..

They plan to ship a single speaker to US speaker then asked him to ship it back to inspect how well it handled the trip. He said they may go ahead and ship what they have built once it arrives safely to us speaker or they may wait.

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Reached out today to US speaker to find out what’s up with my second driver. I was told eminence put a ship hold on the drivers. They are built but they are working out shipping packaging right now. Just an FYI..

They plan to ship a single speaker to US speaker then asked him to ship it back to inspect how well it handled the trip. He said they may go ahead and ship what they have built once it arrives safely to us speaker or they may wait.

I didn't pull any punches on a email regarding both my drivers about coming out of the box. Caused a company wide uproar apparently

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I didn't pull any punches on a email regarding both my drivers about coming out of the box. Caused a company wide uproar apparently


That’s both good and bad.

Good that an expensive driver is getting adequate packing

Bad I have to wait longer


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I didn't pull any punches on a email regarding both my drivers about coming out of the box. Caused a company wide uproar apparently


Yup he actually mentioned you personally haha. Basically based on your feedback they are completely revamping the packaging to be double packed with padding all around etc.


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What did you put these in? I went looking in your posts but didnt see anything obvious......

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What did you put these in? I went looking in your posts but didnt see anything obvious......


I believe he said he put them in slightly larger X21 cabs.


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Kyle is correct, I need 2 more enclosures so Im contemplating doing 4 Skrams or submaximus possibly.

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Kyle is correct, I need 2 more enclosures so Im contemplating doing 4 Skrams or submaximus possibly.


I vote submax! I wanted to build a pair of them but it was about 4 inches too tall to fit in my space and I couldn’t figure out how to maintain most all output with the reduced distance.


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What does the packaging look like with these drivers?
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my pics wont upload but basically single cardboard box with 1/4" foam top and bottom. my boxes were beat up but the speakers seem ok. my si ht18s were packed much better.
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1/4" foam. Hmm thats a bit scarey. Most of my other drivers in the past were moulded thick foam and never really had any issues. So I guess I wont ever think to order these to then be shipped overseas.
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1/4" foam. Hmm thats a bit scarey. Most of my other drivers in the past were moulded thick foam and never really had any issues. So I guess I wont ever think to order these to then be shipped overseas.
I would wait and see where they end up. The foam manufacturer told them the driver was too heavy for the foam. They use a machine to compress the driver into the foam, it just kept compressing over time. I also thought the boxes were slightly to tall and allowed the movement.

Both boxes had the drivers flopping and the ends almost torn off each box. Banding was loose and really not doing much but keepimg the ends from coming off. I cited B&C's packaging, simple fold but it effectively holds the driver in place.

I would agree the spray foam would be simple, but that would require a money outlay presumably. Hate to see the price go up, thus my knee jerk to buying 2 more.
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Just to chime in on the packaging from Eminence...ordered two 21" subs from PE a while back and both arrived with noticeable scuffing on the rim from the driver cutting through the inner cardboard wrap and the outer box. It was even double boxed by PE but it was so loose in the Eminence box that it cut right through everything. Nothing I couldn't live with but compared to some of the stuff I've had shipped, this was pretty weak for a $550 driver.

Had to edit this so to not confuse anyone but myself. Mine are B&C 21's....disregard.

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Just to chime in on the packaging from Eminence...ordered two 21" subs from PE a while back and both arrived with noticeable scuffing on the rim from the driver cutting through the inner cardboard wrap and the outer box. It was even double boxed by PE but it was so loose in the Eminence box that it cut right through everything. Nothing I couldn't live with but compared to some of the stuff I've had shipped, this was pretty weak for a $550 driver.


I spoke to Al again today. Eminence is taking the issue very seriously and apparently has more than over designed the new shipment packaging. He also made reference to eminence using the highest grade neo magnets bc this driver is a no holds barred driver. Basically they want everything to be perfect. The fact it’s been over a week of the drivers being ready to ship and they won’t ship is a blessing IMO. It says to me the company values their reputation and will ensure that the product arrives safely.

The original choice to release the packaging was a bad move but every company has a series of bad moves what defines the company is how they handle it.

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Actually GSG mini Marty flat packs for 18” , I cut out the baffle for the 21”. So far I’m loving them compared to the um18’s.


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I spoke to Al again today. Eminence is taking the issue very seriously and apparently has more than over designed the new shipment packaging. He also made reference to eminence using the highest grade neo magnets bc this driver is a no holds barred driver. Basically they want everything to be perfect. The fact it’s been over a week of the drivers being ready to ship and they won’t ship is a blessing IMO. It says to me the company values their reputation and will ensure that the product arrives safely.

The original choice to release the packaging was a bad move but every company has a series of bad moves what defines the company is how they handle it.

With that said $550!!!! I want that deal


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Well mine are just the regular pukey 21" drivers. If I had known the super drivers were coming out I might have waited. I put 2 in 21" full marty boxes and plan to add two more down the road (already have the boxes). Can't see ever needing anything beyond the 2 I currently have but that's not how this works is it? LOL.

EDIT...now I see where I'm confusing this thread. Mine are the B&C 21's. I've been following this thread so closely I actually believed I had Eminence. Disregard my previous brain fart.

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I spoke to Al again today. Eminence is taking the issue very seriously and apparently has more than over designed the new shipment packaging. He also made reference to eminence using the highest grade neo magnets bc this driver is a no holds barred driver. Basically they want everything to be perfect. The fact it’s been over a week of the drivers being ready to ship and they won’t ship is a blessing IMO. It says to me the company values their reputation and will ensure that the product arrives safely.

The original choice to release the packaging was a bad move but every company has a series of bad moves what defines the company is how they handle it.

With that said $550!!!! I want that deal


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They also have everybody's money, no need to make them twice. Need to tell Al to pack them with swag, should help

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