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Sho-10 ribbon upgrade/conversion HELP

Hey guys I have sho-10 speakers they are great for there price and there Day but I feel like they can be much better. I know there are many different options available from DIYSG but I’m looking for something fun to do and have different. So I don’t know if it’s possible I’m sure it is. I want to change it from what it is to a ribbon upgrade maybe keep the 10in woofer or change it if need be. Im looking to get smoother top end maybe warmer and more accurate sound. I have no experience of designing a speaker. I looking to keep the speaker enclosure. I can post pics of the inside of crossovers woofers CDs. I looking to make this as simplified as possible.
I got this idea after going to Dolby aroma theater when I went to see the lion king. They had ribbons in the speakers. I have a sho speaker that might or might not be blown or something in it messed up figure I start with that one and see how I sounds. Also if possible get the speaker to play lower. Thanks

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Don’t bother, a ribbon will cost so much to keep up with that 10 in sensitivity. The Sho-10 is still a great small speaker, I compared the Sho-10 with the pure 10 and it was close, very close, the pure 10 was just a bit smoother. The proper ribbon would cost more than the whole speaker alone.
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You could change the compression driver out for a radian beryllium 1" which is really good HQ up top. It will bolt in easy and just leave you with crossover changes
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Don’t bother, a ribbon will cost so much to keep up with that 10 in sensitivity. The Sho-10 is still a great small speaker, I compared the Sho-10 with the pure 10 and it was close, very close, the pure 10 was just a bit smoother. The proper ribbon would cost more than the whole speaker alone.
Really? I went on parts express and they range from 50 to 150ish. I saw. What if I change out the woofer for something more “hifi” like a morel or sea drivers? Or just switch out the CD for something better?

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But would this keep up?

https://www.madisoundspeakerstore.com/ribbon-tweeters/raal-original-140-15d-ribbon-tweeter-with-amorphous-core/

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You could change the compression driver out for a radian beryllium 1" which is really good HQ up top. It will bolt in easy and just leave you with crossover changes
I see BE tweeters but then again what MK said he don’t think the ribbon will keep up with the woofer so I’m thinking the BE won’t keep up either?
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Changing out any of the drivers means you will have to design a new crossover.
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Changing out any of the drivers means you will have to design a new crossover.
Yes I know.
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I see. Your statement "I have no experience of designing a speaker" threw me off...
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I see BE tweeters but then again what MK said he don’t think the ribbon will keep up with the woofer so I’m thinking the BE won’t keep up either?
I'm suggesting you use a Be compression driver. You already have a compression driver. Yes it can keep up

http://www.usspeaker.com/radian%20475bEpb-1.htm
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I see. Your statement "I have no experience of designing a speaker" threw me off...
Yea I don’t know The real technical stuff about designing a cross over I never made one on my own other the diysg kit. but I know the basics.
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I'm suggesting you use a Be compression driver. You already have a compression driver. Yes it can keep up

http://www.usspeaker.com/radian%20475bEpb-1.htm
Yes but those are crazy expensive for me to play around with I just thought the ribbons I was seeing on parts express might work and weren’t crazy expensive. But for 500$ plus for the driver I would be afraid I would mess it up just starting out. But I would love to use something like that one day.
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Yes but those are crazy expensive for me to play around with I just thought the ribbons I was seeing on parts express might work and weren’t crazy expensive. But for 500$ plus for the driver I would be afraid I would mess it up just starting out. But I would love to use something like that one day.
I understand. Good ribbons are pretty expensive too.
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I understand. Good ribbons are pretty expensive too.
Yea I’m seeing that now. Raal crazy expensive too.
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Yes, the ribbons that would keep up and match better in sensitivity are the expensive ones. All that work, extra cost, and hoping a different crossover will work is not worth it IMHO. I would start over.
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Yes, the ribbons that would keep up and match better in sensitivity are the expensive ones. All that work, extra cost, and hoping a different crossover will work is not worth it IMHO. I would start over.
Maybe just go with the titans from DIYSG with dual woofers instead of spending 500+ ea on raal tweeter it’s like 600 for the whole speaker
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That would be good idea
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I just built my own for half as much as a titan, I went through lots of prebuilt crossovers to find one that works. Now If I want to build another there is no tinkering. Of course I could have gone active and just used digital dsp but I want them plug and play.

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