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Jk7.2 11-03-2019 12:46 PM

Dual Devastator micro build
 
Update: devastators are done! Gtg scheduled to show others what they added to my system. Gtg is 1-11-20! So far the attendees are: @hd0823 @imrf @VicTorious1 @brian6751 @thisismyname123 @Soloact @Jefro6996
Please let me know if you want to join in!





Thanks to the devastator index, I found a design I can actually fit and integrate into my theater system. I’ve been considering swapping my hst’s for 24’s or 21’s, and thanks for @eng-399 I’ve been able to see that with my size cabs, I only get marginal improvements. So for a little wood, and the cost of a couple drivers, I decided to go with a couple devastator micros. That’s the back story. Here’s the fun part, I’ll be taking and sharing a lot of pics, and maybe a vid or two. @Red Five suggested I run these from 60-90hz ish, though they are designed to run up to 120hz, I will crossover to my mains lower then that. And my hst’s will handle 12-60hz. They take care of that range with authority, so these devastators will amp up the midbass a lot. With 2000 watts, one will hit 135db in the range I will use them for, and I’ll have 2. So if I understand correctly, this should make for a fun time. Driver is the Lavoce WAF154.00 these are heavy. And I put a little power into them and wow. They look sweet with that cone moving. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...398468f17f.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...b4c317d82b.jpg
Thanks also to @hd0823 for the bad influence, and for building his devastators. His are insane with the 21’s. I know mine will be too.

Mahuzz13 11-03-2019 01:03 PM

2 devastators WOW that is awesome!!!

Game changer

I would hate to take credit for something I said to both Mike and Jeremy and not directly to you but it’s true. Jermey and Mike both said that you wanted to change something in you setup to make it more impactful, I said why doesn’t he just build 2 V3 put them in his furnace room and call it a day. Look now you are doing it but in a smaller but an amazing way.

I look forward to hearing these in person


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imrf 11-03-2019 01:05 PM

Pretty sweet. Can’t wait to hear your thoughts on the room once they’re done.


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Red Five 11-03-2019 01:14 PM

The SAN184.03s are pretty beefy too. Looking forward to seeing the build thread!

Jk7.2 11-03-2019 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mahuzz13 (Post 58770914)
2 devastators WOW that is awesome!!!

Game changer

I would hate to take credit for something I said to both Mike and Jeremy and not directly to you but it’s true. Jermey and Mike both said that you wanted to change something in you setup to make it more impactful, I said why doesn’t he just build 2 V3 put them in his furnace room and call it a day. Look now you are doing it but in a smaller but an amazing way.

I look forward to hearing these in person


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Yeah, swapping out drivers in the subs wasn’t exactly what I’m after. Anything I did wouldn’t hang with the hst’s down low in my size cabs. This way I’ll keep that performance, and up the midbass like I want.
I’ve also been tweaking the mains and adding boosts to the midbass. I watched the original Jurassic Park last night with some fresh boosts and dang, the thunder storm and t-Rex scene was excellent.

johnson636 11-03-2019 01:29 PM

Adding Devastators...well that didn't take long:p

Jk7.2 11-03-2019 01:30 PM

Dual Devastator micro build
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by johnson636 (Post 58771056)
Adding Devastators...well that didn't take long:p



Lol guys. Have you seen the size of the micro? It’s only 18 wide. That makes it a winner.

imrf 11-03-2019 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Jk7.2 (Post 58771060)
Lol guys. Have you seen the size of the micro? It’s only 18 wide. That makes it a winner.



I may have to take a peek at those for my room once I start working on it. [emoji848]


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Jk7.2 11-03-2019 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by imrf (Post 58771086)
I may have to take a peek at those for my room once I start working on it. [emoji848]


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Or just wait 5 min until I sell these. Hahahaha!
No, for real [emoji15]

Craig S King 11-03-2019 02:28 PM

Looking forward to seeing the progress!

smcmillan2 11-03-2019 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Jk7.2 (Post 58771090)
Or just wait 5 min until I sell these. Hahahaha!

Probably this... :D

Seriously though, I'll probably hear/feel Jared's setup at my place now, once these are in place.

johnson636 11-03-2019 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jk7.2 (Post 58771090)
Or just wait 5 min until I sell these

Or you could sell me the HST18s and get yourself 4 21s:)

Mahuzz13 11-03-2019 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnson636 (Post 58771384)
Or you could sell me the HST18s and get yourself 4 21s:)



Do give him any ideas now

Even thought that’s an awesome plan


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Jk7.2 11-03-2019 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnson636 (Post 58771384)
Or you could sell me the HST18s and get yourself 4 21s:)



I seriously considered selling the hst’s. I just love them though. And every model shows other subs just hanging in with them below 20-25 hz, then rising. So I think this path is best. I’m not lacking 12-60hz. I can’t wait to see where these put me.

superkyle 11-03-2019 05:01 PM

Following this for sure! I’ve been debating back and forth between the micro and mini but believe I have settled on the mini due to the same tune as the larger version. I’m very interested in how well these integrate between the low end and you mains. A couple of us have has issue with some cancellations playing with the multiple tunes but playing with the slope of the crossover should provide excellent results!

imrf 11-03-2019 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jk7.2 (Post 58771090)
Or just wait 5 min until I sell these. Hahahaha!
No, for real [emoji15]



Haha. I was going to say that but didn’t want to be a jerk. BUT, yes when you’re ready to sell them, shoot me a text. Lol


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johnson636 11-03-2019 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jk7.2 (Post 58771736)
I seriously considered selling the hst’s. I just love them though. And every model shows other subs just hanging in with them below 20-25 hz, then rising. So I think this path is best. I’m not lacking 12-60hz. I can’t wait to see where these put me.

I actually considered two ported 21s, but if I do that, I would have enough space for 2 more HS24s:(

hd0823 11-03-2019 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by johnson636 (Post 58771874)
I actually considered two ported 21s, but if I do that, I would have enough space for 2 more HS24s:(

Just throw the 21s in some v3s way cheaper and downright crazy output

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hd0823 11-03-2019 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jk7.2 (Post 58770838)
Thanks to the devastator index, I found a design I can actually fit and integrate into my theater system. I’ve been considering swapping my hst’s for 24’s or 21’s, and thanks for @eng-399 I’ve been able to see that with my size cabs, I only get marginal improvements. So for a little wood, and the cost of a couple drivers, I decided to go with a couple devastator micros. That’s the back story. Here’s the fun part, I’ll be taking and sharing a lot of pics, and maybe a vid or two. @Red Five suggested I run these from 60-90hz ish, though they are designed to run up to 120hz, I will crossover to my mains lower then that. And my hst’s will handle 12-60hz. They take care of that range with authority, so these devastators will amp up the midbass a lot. With 2000 watts, one will hit 135db in the range I will use them for, and I’ll have 2. So if I understand correctly, this should make for a fun time. Driver is the Lavoce WAF154.00 these are heavy. And I put a little power into them and wow. They look sweet with that cone moving. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...398468f17f.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...b4c317d82b.jpg
Thanks also to @hd0823 for the bad influence, and for building his devastators. His are insane with the 21’s. I know mine will be too.

Yeah I cant wait to see these done. I'm going to have to come down and here them in the room.

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imrf 11-03-2019 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hd0823 (Post 58771912)
Yeah I cant wait to see these done. I'm going to have to come down and here them in the room.

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I sense a mini GTG. Lol


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hd0823 11-03-2019 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by imrf (Post 58772132)
I sense a mini GTG. Lol


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Lol we will probally do another one next fall time I wont have many upgrades done but Jared looks like he will lol. I'll probally only have the motion sensored movie posters added actually by this week . I was going to go with a 16ft scope screen but dont want to drop the crazy money it will cost for the projector and anamorphic lens. Just gotta give it a few years. Jared's upgrades do give me the sub building itch lol but my wife would kill me

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imrf 11-03-2019 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hd0823 (Post 58772160)
Lol we will probally do another one next fall time I wont have many upgrades done but Jared looks like he will lol. I'll probally only have the motion sensored movie posters added actually by this week . I was going to go with a 16ft scope screen but dont want to drop the crazy money it will cost for the projector and anamorphic lens. Just gotta give it a few years. Jared's upgrades do give me the sub building itch lol but my wife would kill me

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Lol. Yeah, might be time for you to build that kid playroom she wants and just enjoy your amazing theater as is for a while.


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johnson636 11-04-2019 05:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hd0823 (Post 58772160)
Just gotta give it a few years.
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And stay away from this place. If not, we'd upgrade something every six months:rolleyes: BTW, you have one of the best looking theaters here. And from talking to a fellow Georgian who attended you and Jared's gtg, the bass in your room is absolutely insane:eek:

eng-399 11-04-2019 05:40 AM

Can’t wait to see this build Jared [emoji41]
Your room is going to be insane! Will these go in the back of the room.


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Jk7.2 11-04-2019 06:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eng-399 (Post 58773202)
Can’t wait to see this build Jared [emoji41]
Your room is going to be insane! Will these go in the back of the room.


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Mike these are going in the front. I know there’s no room, but there actually is just enough on the outsides of the screen. I just hope it’s ok to fire them through velvet. Otherwise I’ll have to do black grill cloth.

johnson636 11-04-2019 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Jk7.2 (Post 58773290)
I just hope it’s ok to fire them through velvet.

If its stretched velvet then you should be fine. I've had some vbss's behind velvet and there were no ill effects.

Jk7.2 11-04-2019 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by johnson636 (Post 58773322)
If its stretched velvet then you should be fine. I've had some vbss's behind velvet and there were no ill effects.



Ok good. I know the bass frequencies usually fly through thin stuff like fabric. [emoji16]
A key thing for my room is having all the speakers hidden. I love to surprise people that haven’t been over before with a loud explosion or something.

Jk7.2 11-04-2019 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnson636 (Post 58773152)
And from talking to a fellow Georgian who attended you and Jared's gtg, the bass in your room is absolutely insane:eek:


That was before the jeremys devastators were built. Now it’s crazy.

Red Five 11-04-2019 07:48 AM

The only question mark I would have with a material in front of the mouth of the horn is whether or not you get the TR from the air particle movement. That should be easy enough to test though :)

hd0823 11-04-2019 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jk7.2 (Post 58773618)
That was before the jeremys devastators were built. Now it’s crazy.

Yeah the devastors did push it over the top. I remember me and you where both suprised what they added

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