Originally Posted by smcmillan2
I don't think you'll find the majority in the DIY forum have any interest in a single point source. It just doesn't provide as enveloping an experience as multiple speakers correctly placed in the room.
That's ok, we're just talking right now. You're getting ahead of yourself trying to decide if there will be enough interest for a production run. Besides, if we can't even make a compelling idea, then no point thinking if there is enough interest for a production run. So lets stop worrying about whether we can generate enough buzz, when we're only just having a fun conversation.
Originally Posted by smcmillan2
Or, maybe I just haven't heard any good soundbars and some can provide that immersive experience. I've not been impressed with those I have heard in friend's setups.
I hadn't heard any good speakers til I built my first DIY design.
Originally Posted by Dave in Green
So soundbars are generally limited in width to a smaller LR separation than individual speakers. If for example the optimum speaker setup for stereo separation in your listening room is 10' between LR most people would not be interested in having a 10' wide soundbar. There just isn't any market for super wide soundbars to fulfill an optimized audio function outside of watching TV. If the idea is to have an improved soundbar of reasonable width primarily for TV use then I have no doubt that DIYSG could design and produce such a kit. Something based on the old Fusion 4 Quad 4 could pack quite a punch in a low-profile, 6' wide package.
I think it's generally well known that we can't make a soundbar ultra wide to replicate LR perfectly. We know it's compromised. It's about doing the best with that compromise. If there is nothing else that can be done to give a better illusion of L/R that's fine, but I'm not sure how productive it would be focusing on the fact that it can't be made wider to perfectly imitate L/R separation. It's really, "Is this a measurable improvement over what people currently get, and does it come at a worthwhile cost?"
I think the Fusion 4 Quad 4 would be a good bass to start from as well. As I look at soundbars online very quickly to get a refresher on what these things even look like on the market, I'd be curious of seeing a test of a DIY design vs the "popular choice". LCR done through the "sound bar" with a cheap subwoofer (DIY or Dayton from PE) vs store.
Also, with the average tv size increasing, I think we have more room today than ever before to play with for DIY solutions that could work. So interesting to spitball some. 4 inch drivers DEFINITELY work, but what about 5?
Also, what about some ultrawide soundbar that doubles as a shelf? It's "floating" there. At that point though, you might as well just have separate speakers, that's why I think it's better to think, "this will be compromised in this regard", because once you start to make the soundbar wider to compensate, you're defeating the purpose.
Originally Posted by augerpro
I'll play the heretic and say some of the commercial soundbars are pretty hard to beat on paper. Big manufacturers can integrate fully active filtering, sound processing, and digital inputs that we can never hope to match for the price. And the drivers don't even suck on some of them.
I'm not sure I'll EVER trust commercial drivers in speakers after being taught here, but the sound processing is something I'm curious about. How much is it worth it? How much is it actually doing?
It'd be interesting to see if when put up against a DIY, if all of that "processing" means anything, or does simply having better drivers/better design improve it more.