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DIYSG Cobalt 8 Build Thread

I have 4 Colbalt 8s for surround duty in my new theater. When I was talking to Erich he said he had never seen a build thread for these, so I figured I'd document the process even though they are pretty basic. All four are going in the angled surround flat packs.

The quality of the MDF pieces in the flat packs are amazing with the precision of their cuts. I added a generous helping of Titebond 3 and clamped them up. Unfortunately, I don't have enough clamps, so I had to do them one at a time.
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I bought the binding post plates from Parts Express and I'm going to put them on the top of the cabinets.
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Following I've only seen 2 Cobalt build threads and both were for LCR.



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Did some jigsaw work today. Because of how I am mounting them, I put two of the speaker terminals on the back and two on the top.
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Did a dry fit run of the parts and glued the face panel on the two that will be my rear surrounds. I found the easiest way to clamp them since they were angled was to do them together.
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I found the easiest way to clamp them since they were angled was to do them together.
That's brilliant!
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Did a sanding with 150 grit by hand and then filled all the seams and rounded edges with joint compound.
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CRAP!

I just noticed that the picture of the flat pack on the DIYSG website has the tweeters at the bottom. How screwed am I?
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I just noticed that the picture of the flat pack on the DIYSG website has the tweeters at the bottom. How screwed am I?
Probably lose a bit of the low end due to port proximity to back wall, but that's about it.

Real question is do the drivers fit in that orientation?

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Everything seemed to have plenty of room when I dry fitted the drivers. I contacted Erich and this is his response.

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I did see that in your build thread when you posted pictures. It won't really matter enough to worry about. My original thought was having the tweeter on the bottom might lower reflections off the ceiling. That was when the original prototype design used a flush mount tweeter. But before the final design ever got to the site the designer ended up liking the horn loaded tweeter better for the Cobalts. So the horn around the tweeter already helps lower reflections. Long story short....you're fine.
This response came in about 3 minutes. Erich and DIYSG is amazing.
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I did some work doing the internal wiring last night. The kit comes with gold plated connectors for the woofer and tweeter. I bought some more (blue) from Home Depot to connect to the terminal plate. I had DIYSG build the crossovers for me since I was a total noob and a little nervous about getting it right. Since that time, I have built them for my Volt 6s and the process is super easy and fun. If you have any soldering skills, I suggest doing it.
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Nice build.

I was also amazed how easy the crossover was to put together on my classix II's. Not much to it if you get the crossover boards. My next build will be harder (sunflower redux's).

Have you listened to the cobalts yet?

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Nice build.

Have you listened to the cobalts yet?
No. Parts Express shipped me the DuraTex without the texture roller so I am waiting for that to show up. I don't want to put them together more than once to keep the screws tight.
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No. Parts Express shipped me the DuraTex without the texture roller so I am waiting for that to show up. I don't want to put them together more than once to keep the screws tight.
That isn't something to worry about. I tested all of my DIYSG speakers "in the raw" and then finished them. The screws hold without issue (unless you remove/reinstall 5 - 8 times, maybe).

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You talked me into it. Time to try these out and break them in a bit.
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Some roller coats of DuraTex and they are installed and running. They were tight as hell at first and needed a severe workout to get them loosened up, but they are sounding great now. The two for the surround back channels are mounted with a combination of door hinges and mounts from Monoprice.
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I like the recessed mounts, I've though about doing this with my volt 8s.
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I like the recessed mounts, I've though about doing this with my volt 8s.
I originally did it because the room is small and it was a way to get them a few more inches away from the listeners, but I like the look as well.
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My room is 11'9" wide, with a 8' reclining sofa centered at the MLP. One of the walls is an exterior wall, so I'm not sure I'd want to open it up. I think my volts are going to end up at shoulder height to keep them mostly out of the way.
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They look great. I have the Colbalt 8s for LCR and love them. I hate putting them sideways but I have no other choice.

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They look great. I have the Volt 8s for LCR and love them.
Volts? Those look more like Cobalts to me?

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Volts? Those look more like Cobalts to me?
I'm a moron. Meant to say Colbalts.

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Could this kit be built into the walls to be flush or close to flush? I’m looking into some inwall speakers for my living room. Custom boxes built into the walls aren’t out of the question but I would want them pretty flush.
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The standard Cobalts are 10.25" deep, the angled are 9.25" deep at the top and 5.5" at the bottom. You would want the baffles from the angled boxes that have front facing ports.

I know they can be made at least 5.5" deep, which would slightly overhang most walls. Your average interior wall would be 4.25-4.5" deep accounting for 2x4s and sheet rock on one face. You would need to expand the box inside the wall to make up for the extra volume needed.

HT-8s would be another one to look at. They are 7.5" deep, giving you around 3 inches overhang.
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As you see the angled ones in my theater, that is as far back as they will go and are up against the drywall on the other side.
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Could this kit be built into the walls to be flush or close to flush? I’m looking into some inwall speakers for my living room. Custom boxes built into the walls aren’t out of the question but I would want them pretty flush.
I'm going to be using Volts for my surround and Atmos speakers, and they will all be recessed into the walls/ceiling. I shortened the depth as much as I could, and I figure with grilles on they will probably come out maybe an inch or an inch and a half into the room after 2 layers of drywall.


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I'm going to be using Volts for my surround and Atmos speakers, and they will all be recessed into the walls/ceiling. I shortened the depth as much as I could, and I figure with grilles on they will probably come out maybe an inch or an inch and a half into the room after 2 layers of drywall.
Grills? Did you custom make some?
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Grills? Did you custom make some?
Hey Ditka, I did actually make some grilles. Or at least I started to make some. I used some leftover hardboard and cut it to the size of the baffle (slightly undersized to allow for fabric covering). Then I drilled 4 pilot holes through the grille (in place) and into the baffle. That marked my centre locations to install magnets. I used a larger bit to make the holes to flush fit the magnets, triple checked polarity, and epoxied them into place. Then I did some filling and sanding.

They turned out pretty decent, but I probably should have set them just under the surface, instead of flush like I did. The magnets would have totally disappeared that way. I think they should finish up pretty nicely, and when the grilles are on you won't see that spot anyway.

I haven't cut out the centres or put a chamfer on the outside yet, but I will. This was kind of a test to see how things worked. I think the magnets I used are 8mm x 3mm and they seem to hold very well, which is good because I plan to put these on my overhead Atmos speakers too.
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That looks great! Do you have any pics of the finished product?

Edit: I just re-read your post and realize they aren't done yet. Please share when they are.
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