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Question dayton audio subwoofer box build

hello all, I am new to this forum and building sub woofer boxes for home audio. I am looking at an Dayton audio RSS390HF-4 15". I am also looking at the bash 500s subwoofer plate amp. I want a ported box with a slot port. I went to subbox.pro, I have used this website before for car audio boxes but do not know if it will work well in a home application, and designed a box for the set-up. I have attached a screen shot I have of the box. my question is do you all think that this box design will serve me well? I have also included a floor plan of my house with dimension's. it will be in the living room. I do not have the fireplace option and my living room is situated left to right with my tv on the right side wall of the floor plan. any help would be much appreciated. also I will be using it on a 50/50 ratio for music and movies. I tried to use winisd but can not figure out how to correctly use it. also I have memory and attention problems from being blown up while serving in Iraq so its hard for me to remember how to do things. thanks again guys and or gals for the help.
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First and foremost, I thank you for your service for our country.

Are you confined to the RSS390HF and plate amp? As in you already own them? Do you already own a subwoofer and if so, what make/model?

Your best bang for the buck is likely the V.B.S.S., tuned to 20Hz, with an NX3000D. This will give you the opportunity to expand to more later.

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Thank you for your service and sacrifices!

That driver will also work in a tuba HT box. It's a horn sub that measures 36"x36"x18"(or larger for more low end). There is also a low profile version that can be mixed or matched with the 36x36 inch version. The low profile one measures 72"x18"x18"(or larger for more low end, again).

I have the 72x18x18 version with a 12" infinity. It shakes my house with ease. I just wish I could fit another one in my room to even out the response.

Detailed plans can be bought at billfitzmaurice.com for $15.
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I have not yet bought anything for the sub build. I have heard that dayton audio's hf sub are good for low end bass that most cant handle. I really dont like to push my speakers past there rims just for quality sound and life expectancy. I'm open to the vbss box design and a different amp than the bash. The iNuke has alot of good reviews so I'm open to that. How would I go about getting box deminsions for the 15" sub? Is there already someone who has built the vbss box with this sub that I can get deminsions and design from? Thanks for your help.
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I wanted to type rms not rims. Damn auto correct
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I have not yet bought anything for the sub build. I have heard that dayton audio's hf sub are good for low end bass that most cant handle. I really dont like to push my speakers past there rims just for quality sound and life expectancy. I'm open to the vbss box design and a different amp than the bash. The iNuke has alot of good reviews so I'm open to that. How would I go about getting box deminsions for the 15" sub? Is there already someone who has built the vbss box with this sub that I can get deminsions and design from? Thanks for your help.
If the size of the V.B.S.S. isn't a concern then there is no reason to go with a different driver. That design maximizes the PA460's capabilities, although it does give up a little in the area the PA460 excels (in the 20Hz tune), which is in the mid-bass range. It will do very well for both movies and music.

What subwoofers have you owned/heard in the past in a similar room? I assure you the V.B.S.S. will provide more bass than most manufactured subs you've read about or heard.

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Well I've been doing some thinking and I think I'm going to build the v.b.b.s build and go with the dayton audio RSS460HO-4 18" REFERENCE. According to bass box 6 it said the optimum cabinet size is 7.5 ft cubed. For 23 hz f3 when vented. I am wondering if I just put that sub in the size box of the original v.b.b.s would it do just as good? I put the 23 hz tuning into bass box pro with everything being the same as the original v.b.b.s box and the two things it changed was the port length to 13.3 inches and the depth of the box to 21.63"

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Well I've been doing some thinking and I think I'm going to build the v.b.b.s build and go with the dayton audio RSS460HO-4 18" REFERENCE. According to bass box 6 it said the optimum cabinet size is 7.5 ft cubed. For 23 hz f3 when vented. I am wondering if I just put that sub in the size box of the original v.b.b.s would it do just as good? I put the 23 hz tuning into bass box pro with everything being the same as the original v.b.b.s box and the two things it changed was the port length to 13.3 inches and the depth of the box to 21.63"


If you’re going to build the vbss, use the PA460.
The cabinet and tuning is all designed to work perfectly with that driver

Port velocity will be excessive with the HO. That driver works well in the Marty Cube though.

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Chris, which would be a better set-up for a 50/50 mix music and movies.the v.b.s.s or the Marty cube

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SMCmilian I'm used to hearing klipsch and the svs pb2000
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The standardized ported box for that driver (HO) at 5.5 cubes tuned to ~22Hz pretty much splits the difference between the Martycube and a VBSS sized box. I haven't modeled it, but there's always a little leeway, and they're all close enough where I doubt the response would change that much.

When folks start complaining about sub quality for music, the first thing I think of is the room, placement, & setup equation, assuming a good design/build. Get the design where you want it, use DSP to iron out the small wrinkles, and it will be great for music.

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I'm going to go with the marty cube and and the 18" dayton audio ho sub. My next question is should I get the behringer nx3000D or the Inuke 3000dsp?
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Chris, which would be a better set-up for a 50/50 mix music and movies.the v.b.s.s or the Marty cube

The VBSS will be much better for music, and passable for movies.

If you can fit them, you can do multiple vbss for the cost of one HO.

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I'm going to go with the marty cube and and the 18" dayton audio ho sub. My next question is should I get the behringer nx3000D or the Inuke 3000dsp?


Same amp. Nx is the newer, much better looking version.

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@Bassluvr , first off tyfys! The vbss is a great idea. Let us know where in the country you are. I’m in south Florida and I have an extra vbss sub box all built that you’re welcome to have if you’re in this neck of the woods

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I'm in north alabama. Huntsville area. I would take you up on that offer lawdogx, but it would cost me more money in gas then it would material to build it. But I do appreciate the offer! I wish I knew someone near me with the Marty cube and or the v.b.s.s so I could hear them in action. It's really hard to make a decision on something you have never heard, it's like buying a tv before viewing the picture quality.
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