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FI Audio HT-1 vs HT-3

I am looking at the 2 of these for building a pair of 18 sealed subs and wondering of there is a big difference i am using a 1500W rms amp for each. If you have alternatives i would be willing to hear those out as well and if i am not satisfied with sealed i will probably be building ported subs but no bigger than a Johnny Sub.

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I am looking at the 2 of these for building a pair of 18 sealed subs and wondering of there is a big difference i am using a 1500W rms amp for each. If you have alternatives i would be willing to hear those out as well and if i am not satisfied with sealed i will probably be building ported subs but no bigger than a Johnny Sub.

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I built dual 6 cubic foot sealed subs using the HT3. I am using a Nx600oD for power (one per channel) and they absolutely pound and have crazy output. I will be using them again when I build 2 - 4 more.
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Um18 is $300 and practically identical.
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Leave it at 8 ohms and call it a day :)
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Um18 is $300 and practically identical.
I don't think so. The UM18 is fantastic for the money, but the Fi is a beast. For one thing, the Fi offers a lot more cone travel with 34mm xmax vs 22 on the UM18. The Fi is also rated 2dB more efficient. The Fi has *double* the power rating at 2000 watts RMS vs 1000 RMS on the UM18. Based on power handling and efficiency, a single Fi UM18 should be able to put out more SPL than 2 UM18's. I love Fi speakers.
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The Fi don't have shorting rings or share Le spec. Inductance hump will be apparent compared to the UM
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The Fi don't have shorting rings or share Le spec. Inductance hump will be apparent compared to the UM
Everyone forgets this. It's not just power and xmax.
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The Fi don't have shorting rings or share Le spec. Inductance hump will be apparent compared to the UM

Uhh, the ht-3 specs do list a shorting ring.

I messaged then about Le when I was considering it for use in a v3. The ht-3 is 2.5-2.6mh.

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The HT-1 looks similar to the UM and is around the same price with the sale. If you got the extra $400, why not do the HT-3?

I've never used a Fi, but folks who have seem to happy with them. I was thinking about trying one of the new Adire subs as part of a "blast from the past" build, but they're not as good of bang for the buck as the Dayton drivers.

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The HT-1 looks similar to the UM and is around the same price with the sale. If you got the extra $400, why not do the HT-3?

I've never used a Fi, but folks who have seem to happy with them. I was thinking about trying one of the new Adire subs as part of a "blast from the past" build, but they're not as good of bang for the buck as the Dayton drivers.

You’re not going to match bang-for-buck of the Dayton drivers, don’t even try.

I chose to run high end, made-in-usa drivers, but don’t pretend its cost effective. I use HST’s in my theater. Would have picked up a pair of HT3’s for my living room setup, but they won’t fit my recesses in my old 4cf boxes. So more HST’s it is.

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True, true.

The HST's are beasty--great for low tuned ported enclosures with a lot of power, but could go either way. If I had the coin, or rather if I wanted to part with it, it'd be my first choice.

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You’re not going to match bang-for-buck of the Dayton drivers, don’t even try.

I chose to run high end, made-in-usa drivers, but don’t pretend its cost effective. I use HST’s in my theater. Would have picked up a pair of HT3’s for my living room setup, but they won’t fit my recesses in my old 4cf boxes. So more HST’s it is.

Chris

This and this. I knew I wasn't getting the most cost effective build by not using the Dayton's. More important to me was Fi Car being 100% American made.
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You’re not going to match bang-for-buck of the Dayton drivers, don’t even try.
It depends on where you're from.

In Europe, and particularly in the UK, the difference between the HT3 and the UM18 is much smaller (500£ vs 350£ ??).
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It depends on where you're from.

In Europe, and particularly in the UK, the difference between the HT3 and the UM18 is much smaller (500£ vs 350£ ??).

This is true. But in your case, avoid both. You can do it for cheaper with some lavoce san214.50’s.

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This is true. But in your case, avoid both. You can do it for cheaper with some lavoce san214.50’s.
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It depends, doesn't it ?
As good as the Lavoce is, it cannot match neither of those bellow 30Hz.

I also share your perspective, i also prefer to use high-end drivers (i have two BMS 18N862) ... in the long run, these drivers will run for more than a decade, and with that in mind, an extra $$ is insignificant ... its always preferred to save for a bit longer and buy the best you can afford.
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It depends, doesn't it ?
As good as the Lavoce is, it cannot match neither of those bellow 30Hz.

I also share your perspective, i also prefer to use high-end drivers (i have two BMS 18N862) ... in the long run, these drivers will run for more than a decade, and with that in mind, an extra $$ is insignificant ... its always preferred to save for a bit longer and buy the best you can afford.

The lavoce will actually beat the um below 30hz as well. The extra cone area makes up for the reduced excursion.
Fully driven, the ht-3 will still win.

From what I’ve heard if prices in europe, isn’t the lavoce cheaper than the um?

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The lavoce will actually beat the um below 30hz as well.
The data-bass.com review seems to indicate that the UM still beat the lavoce bellow 30HZ ...

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From what I’ve heard if prices in europe, isn’t the lavoce cheaper than the um?
These are the cheapest prices in Europe, but there is no availability:
- SAF214.50: 360€
- SAN214.50: 424€

Here one of the best prices in Europe for the UM18: 409€.
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The data-bass.com review seems to indicate that the UM still beat the lavoce bellow 30HZ ...



These are the cheapest prices in Europe, but there is no availability:
- SAF214.50: 360€
- SAN214.50: 424€

Here one of the best prices in Europe for the UM18: 409€.

Just looked at databass. Looks to me that they are tied at 106db long term at 20hz in the same box. The lavoce gains from there.

I’ll believe you on the pricing. I was just going by what other European members had reported.

I’d still pay the slight extra for the more efficient 21”

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I’ll believe you on the pricing.
I know, i just posted them as it may help others

Between the UM18 and the Lavoce 21", i would also go with the Lavoce
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Get the 21, about the same low end and more midbass at the same price!

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