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Honey Badger's curved DIYSG 1099 build

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Starting a build thread for my curved 1099s to be used in the media room. Plan is to make the LR towers about 46in high and then put the center on a cabinet under the TV. Will finish the cabs in Walnut and then attach the DIYSG baffles to the front of the curved Walnut cabs.

I do have a question before I can go further. Can anyone provide measurements of where the braces are located in their 1099 cabinets for the mid chamber? I am not able to measure the baffles since the kits are out of stock. I'll just keep building and then attach the DIYSG baffles and install the parts once they arrive.

I am getting ready to cut the front inner baffle and rear panels and need to know where to route the channels for my braces.

So far I've cut and shaped all of the braces/top bottom. Next up is cutting the front/rear panels and then gluing up the skeletons. Onces those are done, I'll begin laminating the sides.
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Been making big progress. Been recording some video since I don't see much 1099 video content. Will post once all is done and edited. In the meantime, here are some phone snaps of the progress. These suckers are going to be HUGE compared to the Core 2-Ways they're replacing haha.

First, let's go into some background.

Wife and I used to live in Seattle, WA and we had an incredible Statements setup with 3 Statements for LCR, (2) dual-opposed bass bins to add deep extension, and (4) 18in woofers in a IB setup for bass. The Statements each had XPA-1 block for power and the subs were powered by (2) Inuke 6000DSPs. It was great for critical istening and did very well with movies. But I had always wanted the effortless-ness of high efficiency speakers. Wife and I love watching live music blurays and they did really well until they ran out of steam. Awesome for close to reference volume, but you could hear the strain when really pushed.

Then we moved to TX and I sold the setup to my parents. I was transitioning into car stuff and we were getting into a new house, so I used the opportunity to make some changes. The sound system sucked, but the car build was kickass!


Onto now, I'm finally building the setup I've been dreaming about for 4 years. 3 1099s for LCR, 2 magnum 12s for midbass, and an IB in the attic. Will eventually replace the in-wall speakers that provide Atmos and Surround with volts. Progress on the 1099s.

Built a skeleton to wrap the sides around. 0.5 in MDF front and .75 backs.


Suckers are definitely huge in comparison. 47.5in tall


I used PL construction adhesive to adhere the first layer to the "ribs." Moved to Titebond for the subsequent lamination layers.



Because I no longer have a woodshop, my cuts were a bit rougher than expected and there were plenty of gaps to fill. Let's just say I used plenty of bondo and sanding.


I am finishing them in Walnut. The finish is Watco Dark Walnut + 3 coats of wipe on poly. Going for a hand-rubbed look. Next steps are trim the veneer for the cutouts and wax. Getting excited.
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Been making big progress. Been recording some video since I don't see much 1099 video content. Will post once all is done and edited. In the meantime, here are some phone snaps of the progress. These suckers are going to be HUGE compared to the Core 2-Ways they're replacing haha.

First, let's go into some background.

Wife and I used to live in Seattle, WA and we had an incredible Statements setup with 3 Statements for LCR, (2) dual-opposed bass bins to add deep extension, and (4) 18in woofers in a IB setup for bass. The Statements each had XPA-1 block for power and the subs were powered by (2) Inuke 6000DSPs. It was great for critical istening and did very well with movies. But I had always wanted the effortless-ness of high efficiency speakers. Wife and I love watching live music blurays and they did really well until they ran out of steam. Awesome for close to reference volume, but you could hear the strain when really pushed.

Then we moved to TX and I sold the setup to my parents. I was transitioning into car stuff and we were getting into a new house, so I used the opportunity to make some changes. The sound system sucked, but the car build was kickass!


Onto now, I'm finally building the setup I've been dreaming about for 4 years. 3 1099s for LCR, 2 magnum 12s for midbass, and an IB in the attic. Will eventually replace the in-wall speakers that provide Atmos and Surround with volts. Progress on the 1099s.

Built a skeleton to wrap the sides around. 0.5 in MDF front and .75 backs.


Suckers are definitely huge in comparison. 47.5in tall


I used PL construction adhesive to adhere the first layer to the "ribs." Moved to Titebond for the subsequent lamination layers.



Because I no longer have a woodshop, my cuts were a bit rougher than expected and there were plenty of gaps to fill. Let's just say I used plenty of bondo and sanding.


I am finishing them in Walnut. The finish is Watco Dark Walnut + 3 coats of wipe on poly. Going for a hand-rubbed look. Next steps are trim the veneer for the cutouts and wax. Getting excited.
Very nice fabrication! I briefly toyed with building curved cabinets, but decided to stick with 'standard' box & Duratex as it IS for the theater! I am sitting here after applying the D-tex to the L/R pair.


Although I built the box for the center, and bought the baffle for horizontal use, I find myself questioning building 3 vertical and going for an AT screen. Anyway, I mostly wanted to comment on your outstanding work. My 1099s are far more pedestrian!
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Wow, those are looking awesome! Also, love the COTA pics! My family lives in Austin and every time I go out, we hit a track day because my brother works for a race company. Last time he got me a session in a Mclaren 675LT.


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Very nice fabrication! I briefly toyed with building curved cabinets, but decided to stick with 'standard' box & Duratex as it IS for the theater! I am sitting here after applying the D-tex to the L/R pair.


Although I built the box for the center, and bought the baffle for horizontal use, I find myself questioning building 3 vertical and going for an AT screen. Anyway, I mostly wanted to comment on your outstanding work. My 1099s are far more pedestrian!
Haha, thanks. I deeply regretted the curved cabinets about half way through. Haha. They're so much more tedious and laminating the sides is so much more work. It took me 2 weeks of adding layers every day to get them done. Hoping they're worth the wait! hehe

I'd make the change to a vertical center now! Vertical will always sound more natural and AT screens are so cool!

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Nice! What organization? LOVE COTA. Such a blessing to be close enough to drive it so much!

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Haha, thanks. I deeply regretted the curved cabinets about half way through. Haha. They're so much more tedious and laminating the sides is so much more work. It took me 2 weeks of adding layers every day to get them done. Hoping they're worth the wait! hehe

I'd make the change to a vertical center now! Vertical will always sound more natural and AT screens are so cool!



Nice! What organization? LOVE COTA. Such a blessing to be close enough to drive it so much!

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So I am assembling the drivers for the 1099s, and as I was putting a dab of Loctite on the studs in the compression drivers ... in keeping with the secondary theme of this thread:


DRILL & SAFETY WIRE INSTEAD!


One of these days I will head out to Barber Motorsports to do a track day. At my age I will probably do it on 4 wheels rather than 2, but am equipped for both
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Nice! I see the CM guys out there all the time. They typically have some pretty nice equipment

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DRILL & SAFETY WIRE INSTEAD!


One of these days I will head out to Barber Motorsports to do a track day. At my age I will probably do it on 4 wheels rather than 2, but am equipped for both
I need to drive Barber real bad. Probably won't make it in 2020, but hopefully 2021. I used to drive out to Road Atlanta 2x a year. Favorite place on Earth!

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These 1099's sure look a little familiar! Nice job!
Hehe, yours were definitely the inspiration!

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Awesome build! Love the veneer on them.

Love your mustang too though I am a little partial to mustangs
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I need to drive Barber real bad. Probably won't make it in 2020, but hopefully 2021. I used to drive out to Road Atlanta 2x a year. Favorite place on Earth!
Back in the 70s (yep, I'm old!) we went to Road Atlanta for both MX & RR. That was my first exposure to a real road course, just spectating. After that I could never understand basic ovals for cars or bikes (unless they were dirt ). I have a 12 yr old Aussie 4 door I would dearly love to thrash about at Barber or Road Atlanta. Alas, I am not sure I will ever get around to it!
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Awesome build! Love the veneer on them.

Love your mustang too though I am a little partial to mustangs
Excellent choice in cars

And thanks on the veneer. It came out great. Will be posting some pics here shortly now that they're "mostly" finished.

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Road Atlanta is seriously heaven on Earth. LOVE that place. Won't make it this year, but I was out last June and had an absolute blast. And completely agree with you about oval stuff. Road racing is so much more engaging, diverse, and fun to watch for me. I've driven on both and the oval stuff has it's fun (and it's much harder than most realize), but the RR stuff is where it's at for me. Especially in this car. Braking and thrashing about in the turns is half the fun!

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Alright, so I had a chance to finish my first set of poly coats. I decided to go ahead and get them assembled and ready for last weekend for some enthusiastic rock band, concert blurays, and movie marathons. I plan to do some additional finish work at a later date. But given that I used oil-based poly, these have a few weeks of off-gasing anyways.

So first impressions are in line with most - WOW! They sure have some serious capability compared to what I'm used to. Effortless reference levels, incredible sound stage, and excellent dynamics. Exactly what I was looking for! These things will make you feel like you're at the concert. So cool!

So insane I can get this much performance out of only 120w per channel. I can hear they'd benefit from some big power reserves to help clean up the dynamics at reference levels, tho. I noticed the same improvement when I fed my Statement IIs from XPA-1 monoblocks. Will likely investigate something along the lines of Hypex amps in the future!

Here are some pics to hold you over. Editing the video of assembly now, so will post that by this weekend hopefully.



Veneer came out great


Love the curved center. Fits in great. Sneak peek of my other project below it. I'll create a separate thread for that. Still working on some bugs.
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Alright, so I had a chance to finish my first set of poly coats. I decided to go ahead and get them assembled and ready for last weekend for some enthusiastic rock band, concert blurays, and movie marathons. I plan to do some additional finish work at a later date. But given that I used oil-based poly, these have a few weeks of off-gasing anyways.

So first impressions are in line with most - WOW! They sure have some serious capability compared to what I'm used to. Effortless reference levels, incredible sound stage, and excellent dynamics. Exactly what I was looking for! These things will make you feel like you're at the concert. So cool!

So insane I can get this much performance out of only 120w per channel. I can hear they'd benefit from some big power reserves to help clean up the dynamics at reference levels, tho. I noticed the same improvement when I fed my Statement IIs from XPA-1 monoblocks. Will likely investigate something along the lines of Hypex amps in the future!

Here are some pics to hold you over. Editing the video of assembly now, so will post that by this weekend hopefully.



Veneer came out great


Love the curved center. Fits in great. Sneak peek of my other project below it. I'll create a separate thread for that. Still working on some bugs.

Man, those look awesome!!! You mentioned looking into something Hypex based, I just picked up a NAD M27, and it’s been amazing so far! I was originally planning on going D-Sonic which use Pascal modules but the NAD came up used at a price I couldn’t pass up. Do you mind if I share your pics on my Instagram? If you are on the gram I can tag you for credit


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LOL- I was just on Mustang 6G and I have a GT350 too. Small world. Speakers look great, well done.
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Man, those look awesome!!! You mentioned looking into something Hypex based, I just picked up a NAD M27, and it’s been amazing so far! I was originally planning on going D-Sonic which use Pascal modules but the NAD came up used at a price I couldn’t pass up. Do you mind if I share your pics on my Instagram? If you are on the gram I can tag you for credit


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Nice! I've heard good things about the NAD amps! M27 looks great. I need something 2-channel or 3-channel I think. I'll have to keep my eyes open! and sure thing @honeybadger moves

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Nice! I feel like the two hobbies go well together? Both drain the wallet and are completely overkill

What year/color do you have?

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Nice! I've heard good things about the NAD amps! M27 looks great. I need something 2-channel or 3-channel I think. I'll have to keep my eyes open! and sure thing @honeybadger moves



Nice! I feel like the two hobbies go well together? Both drain the wallet and are completely overkill

What year/color do you have?

Right on! Thanks man! Check out D-Sonic if you haven’t, they have some 2-3 channel options. I just saw a NAD M22 v2 on eBay that sold for like 2100, that was a solid deal


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Nice! I feel like the two hobbies go well together? Both drain the wallet and are completely overkill

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LOL- Drain the wallet is right...need something to break up the day to day though and these hobbies do go well together.

I have a white 2019- Kooks Headers and FFE...CAI and tune. Did FRPP lowering springs and sway bar kit. I hope to hit a track this summer...It would be my first time. Enjoyed your posts and like your speakers...super cool.
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