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Sinbosen Drive Rack PA2

Just ordered this from Sinbosen...

DBX Driverack PA2 clone... Looks pretty legit

Hoping to ditch my MiniDSP's with a high noise floor and go balanced.

https://www.sinbosen.com/pid18238716...or-BDX-PA2.htm


Will let you all know how it goes. Was a bargain at $210 USD could be a good option for those who need DSP on your builds. Hopefully..

2 in 6 out. 8 PEQ on input and output. Fully compatible with the DBX software on tablets and PC's.




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What does shipping cost? I see the price went up quite a bit from when I bought it for $299 with free shipping but even at 430 with shipping, I'd pay the difference for a warranty. (Musicians friend will take off 15% if you call and ask for the discount) That would put you at 365 shipped. I see you're not in the US so your situation is different.

The DBX units are great and the remote Ipad function is the best thing that happened to audio.

I upgraded to the DBX venu360 to have fully adjustable phase and added computing power.
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What does shipping cost? I see the price went up quite a bit from when I bought it for $299 with free shipping but even at 430 with shipping, I'd pay the difference for a warranty. (Musicians friend will take off 15% if you call and ask for the discount) That would put you at 365 shipped. I see you're not in the US so your situation is different.



The DBX units are great and the remote Ipad function is the best thing that happened to audio.



I upgraded to the DBX venu360 to have fully adjustable phase and added computing power.
Shipping was 75.

So 285 all up.

Yeah in Australia that unit is nearly 900AUD. was less than half that for this one. Warranty not a huge deal, they have warranty apparently, it would only cost me 20 bucks to send it back to China if I had to, we've got good shipping pricing here.

Phase control on the venue?

Doesn't this have delay and invert? What am I missing.

Are you happy with the venue? That's got 14 peq banks right?

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Shipping was 75.

So 285 all up.

Yeah in Australia that unit is nearly 900AUD. was less than half that for this one. Warranty not a huge deal, they have warranty apparently, it would only cost me 20 bucks to send it back to China if I had to, we've got good shipping pricing here.

Phase control on the venue?

Doesn't this have delay and invert? What am I missing.

Are you happy with the venue? That's got 14 peq banks right?

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Can't wait to hear your impressions. Did you purchase 2, or will you test the one on your LR first?
One initially.

If it sucks it can eq my subs



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One initially.

If it sucks it can eq my subs



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Good idea. I haven't read up on this unit, does it EQ and HP below 20Hz?

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Good idea. I haven't read up on this unit, does it EQ and HP below 20Hz?
I believe it can high pass 16hz in the crossover section, but not eq below 20.

But you could combine a shelf and such to get it to high pass any Freq you want I am sure just like the inukes.

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Have you tried the Software? My main concern with these type of clones is not on the hardware side, but on the software side.
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Have you tried the Software? My main concern with these type of clones is not on the hardware side, but on the software side.
I don't have it yet. But I'm told its literally the same software. They don't have it to download since you are supposed to just use the dbx software.

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Phase control on the venue?

Doesn't this have delay and invert? What am I missing.
Inverting is 0 or 180.

Delay is between two drivers. Phase is on each specific driver varying for any value and compensates for asymmetrical crossovers. If I have the right phase for mid to tweeter, I can't delay the mid to adjust to woofers without losing the phase setting to the tweeter so I can adjust the woofer itself, in my case 75 degrees to have the right adjustment. Sometimes you can't adjust settings for mid to tweeter if you have a self contained active monitor connected to a sub. The active monitor has its own amps crossover such as the JBL 708.

When setting up a speaker, I invert polarity and on the sub itself slide phase until I get the deepest reverse null, then reverse polarity again and phase is perfect.

Times this comes in handy is where latency matters.
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Inverting is 0 or 180.



Delay is between two drivers. Phase is on each specific driver varying for any value and compensates for asymmetrical crossovers. If I have the right phase for mid to tweeter, I can't delay the mid to adjust to woofers without losing the phase setting to the tweeter so I can adjust the woofer itself, in my case 75 degrees to have the right adjustment. Sometimes you can't adjust settings for mid to tweeter if you have a self contained active monitor connected to a sub. The active monitor has its own amps crossover such as the JBL 708.



When setting up a speaker, I invert polarity and on the sub itself slide phase until I get the deepest reverse null, then reverse polarity again and phase is perfect.



Times this comes in handy is where latency matters.
Hmm that's interesting, I was able to match all my driver's individually by using delays and as such the phase is correct when they all overlap. If you need to match mid to woofer then you just move both the tweeter and mid delays, but I see how in your case it's different maybe

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One thing you will like messing around with is the subharmonic synthesizer. If you have the subs and power for them, it can be like a night club in your house. If you over-do it, it will sound artificial but used correctly, it adds really deep bass to music that is pretty thin. It is way too much for movies though.
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Curious to see what the NF and FR is on this device.
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Curious to see what the NF and FR is on this device.
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@rboster would you mind fixing the thread title to spell Sinbosen correctly?

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I run dBx OEM and love them. This winter one of my PA2s went bad on me. no audio output on any channel. I think Im going to wait and hear the review and replace it when I order my next FP20K.


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Well it showed up.

And at least from here, it seems to be literally identical to the OEM version, even the PCB has Dbx Harman branding on it.

The Sinbosen sticker on the box is funny. There was also a Sinbosen sticker over the DBX logo on chassis which I took off.

The UI seems to be exact DBX OEM firmware.

I have not run any Audio through it yet, need to wait on some XLR cables I ordered but this is looking really good so far.

Even has a registration card addressed to DBX inside the box. This thing must have been sourced from the actual factory.














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I too am following. I’m curious but your use case for this is for your high efficiency mains and surrounds right?

Would this be good/better than the Mini for subs too?


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I too am following. I’m curious but your use case for this is for your high efficiency mains and surrounds right?

Would this be good/better than the Mini for subs too?

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Its for my 3 way mains. Which I will have 3 of soon. LCR, so I will need two of these.

I could, and will use another for subs too. 2 inputs 6 outputs. The MiniDSP has 10x PEQ banks on In/out and this has 8, but that's not a big deal. Though the MiniDSP can PEQ down to 10hz, this can only do 20. But in that sense its very similar to the EQ in an iNuke.

I really dislike the MiniDSP 2x4HD package, I want to try something different. Plus I wanted balanced not RCA.

Will report back when I put some sound though it. I'm very curious on the noise floor with my AMT.
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I have been reading up on the DBX PA2 and liked what I read and I ordered one. Probably will not ship out until tomorrow.
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Sinbosen Drive Rack PA2

Gotcha. I’m using the 2x4 balanced from the jump in my own custom case similar to the back of that dbx unit.

A MiniDSP wi-dg is in my future soon as well

I’m wishing I could get a pre pro instead of my AVR so I could go fully balanced too lol.

Only takes about 1k for a Marantz mkII for 4k and HDCP 2.0


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I have been reading up on the DBX PA2 and liked what I read and I ordered one. Probably will not ship out until tomorrow.
Cool!

Keen to hear your thoughts.

The only thing I have had to do is export my PEQ curves as traditional PEQ and not BiQuad curves which are what the MiniDSP takes from REW. That was a pain because there is no simple conversion tools out there, so I had to go and find the measurements which were exactly what I had exported the EQ from, and luckily I was able to track them down and export the simple PEQ values of the EQ and trim it down to 8 PEQ banks vs 10.

So I am good to go and should be able to to get exactly the same sound I had before.

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Watched some reviews and it appears to be a really awesome device that could replace my MiniDSP balanced.


This can be accessed remotely via Ethernet which would be my preference, and it’s got more outputs than my Mini.

Downside is I’m sure it won’t like that I’d be connecting t via RCA (w RCA to XLR converters) from my Denon. And it for sure wouldn’t like my Chane 3609 (Suntron MQ600), so I’d have to manually set the gains. Outside that this thing looks like a winner.

I’m also a sucker for meters lol....


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Watched some reviews and it appears to be a really awesome device that could replace my MiniDSP balanced.


This can be accessed remotely via Ethernet which would be my preference, and it’s got more outputs than my Mini.

Downside is I’m sure it won’t like that I’d be connecting t via RCA (w RCA to XLR converters) from my Denon. And it for sure wouldn’t like my Chane 3609 (Suntron MQ600), so I’d have to manually set the gains. Outside that this thing looks like a winner.

I’m also a sucker for meters lol....

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One good thing on the back there is a simple push toggle for lifting ground on XLR. Could help track down some gremlins and hums etc. Also there is an input gain switch.

The iPad and PC software looks killer too.
Network access will also be awesome when you have a couple of them in a rack like I will eventually.

Also, the power supply looks pretty good, its actually a decently heavy torroidal. one thing I hate about the MiniDSP is the crappy powersupply. On the DSP forums a lot of people ended up switching to linear power supplies and swore it improved the noise floor issues some of them were having.

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One good thing on the back there is a simple push toggle for lifting ground on RCA. Could help track down some gremlins and hums etc. Also there is an input gain switch.

The iPad and PC software looks killer too.
Network access will also be awesome when you have a couple of them in a rack like I will eventually.

Also, the power supply looks pretty good, its actually a decently heavy torroidal. one thing I hate about the MiniDSP is the crappy powersupply. On the DSP forums a lot of people ended up switching to linear power supplies and swore it improved the noise floor issues some of them were having.

Yup. I have a ground lift on my custom unit lol....

I have been debating either a linear PSU or just going with a ifi audio wallwart. They have an upgraded unit for their headphone amps that would slot in my unit no problem. The linear PSU would require some additional modifications or a deeper enclosure entirely (and then redoing wiring which isn’t totally impossible).

Also the mini wi-dg as it is doesn’t fit so I’m going to have to strip it down to fit lohehehe


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Cool! I just picked up an open box dbx venue 360 for subwoofer management. I saved a couple hundred bucks but I wish I would have seen this I could have saved more, the venue 360 is overkill for subs I think. Ive been playing with the dbx software and it looks pretty straight forward.
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Ive been using these for years. I have a Venue360 running my custom build high power/efficiency LCR actively. These are a standard for JBL PA and for most local/regional acts and companies.

Ill be replacing my inop OEM PA2 wity this and adding one more.

These have the ability to EQ a room through a wizard and an xlr room mic. It works like a champ. These units blow away the Minis. I use a mini for my subs for <20hz peq, however the PAs will do a shelf from 20hz and below, which is usually all that is needed unless you do alot of focus and content in the single digits.

My custom active LCR are eq’d flat outdoors for a somewhat anechoic baseline. The profile is saved. Then they are room eq’d using the wizard based on my deairee house curve. I can easily switch from my movie mode to my music mode which changes my house curve from flat to an enhanced music curve, one for rock/country and one for modern pop/r&b/dance/hip hop.

Great find, enjoy!


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