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post #31 of 48 Old 06-30-2020, 01:41 PM
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I bought the cut MDF from Home Depo, the drivers were from Parts Express (I can drive to the border), and the amp I bought from Long and McQuade. A boomy setup is more about the room and setup and less about the sub.
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I bought the cut MDF from Home Depo, the drivers were from Parts Express (I can drive to the border), and the amp I bought from Long and McQuade. A boomy setup is more about the room and setup and less about the sub.
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I will price everything out and see which route: VBSS or IXL-18's in a Full Marty!

Are Full Marty specs and cuts..etc available online for a DIY?
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Probably one of the easiest ways to start. would be 18 inch sealed in a 4 foot by 4 foot box.

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Probably one of the easiest ways to start. would be 18 inch sealed in a 4 foot by 4 foot box.
That would be super easy for sure, I could do that my self! but looking for ported!

We have built car subs before, ported, but had the box designed with each piece and dimension laid out. We just cut and put the pieces together.....

Looking at the Marty/Full Marty I can't find port length or size info or bracing info - just the outer dimensions of the box.



I spoke with my step dad and showed him the above image and links..etc Heck maybe I just do the VBSS and see what happens - would just hate to not like it. Probably a mental block, the preconceived notion that somehow hoe audio & cheap = bad.

If we have dimensions for the box and all the pieces we can absolutely build it, just need some help with that or a program that can assist!

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here is the sizes of the marty subs


mini marty cutlist

here is a build thread for the full marty https://www.avsforum.com/forum/155-d...ull-noobs.html
there is many many build threads, its one of the most popular subs around here

here is the FAQ thread https://www.avsforum.com/forum/155-d...tysub-faq.html
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here is the sizes of the marty subs


mini marty cutlist

here is a build thread for the full marty https://www.avsforum.com/forum/155-d...ull-noobs.html
there is many many build threads, its one of the most popular subs around here

here is the FAQ thread https://www.avsforum.com/forum/155-d...tysub-faq.html
Perfect, thank you! This will help a ton!

Does anyone here have experience with both the VBSS and the Marty for pros and cons?

Just keep reading the Marty 'digs deeper' and I have tried to find a video comparison.
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Perfect, thank you! This will help a ton!

Does anyone here have experience with both the VBSS and the Marty for pros and cons?

Just keep reading the Marty 'digs deeper' and I have tried to find a video comparison.
An 11cf Full Marty box should give you ~4dB more around tune than a 6.25cf VBSS box. What you tune at is up to you.

They are just boxes that you are putting a driver in. There aren't really pros and cons other than the bigger box will take up more space and give you more output, the smaller box will take up less space and give you less output.
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An 11cf Full Marty should give you ~4dB more around tune than a 6.25cf VBSS box. What you tune at is up to you.

They are just boxes that you are putting a driver in. There aren't really pros and cons other than the bigger box will take up more space and give you more output, the smaller box will take us less space and give you less output.
That makes perfect sense!

I think I will be doing a VBSS with NX3000D - nothing huge box wise and hopefully some great output for movies and music (and better than my CHT!)

Wife doesn't want anything 'huge' so start with this and the NX3000D would allow for upgrades......two UM18-22s in a full Marty would be sweet but don't think I can sway the size


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Would be the correct tube kit for the VBSS?
https://solen.ca/products/accessorie...rts/psp4-bkht/

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In the GTA area. I made a sonosub with a UM15 & iNuke 1000 amp. With a router and circle jig, it was pretty simple to make. 24" sonotube and a 8" sonotube for the port. No need for huge clamps. Only downside is that its 6ft tall

Since the borders are closed, if you are in the GTA then corssborderpickups is an option over CBI.
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That makes perfect sense!

I think I will be doing a VBSS with NX3000D - nothing huge box wise and hopefully some great output for movies and music (and better than my CHT!)

Wife doesn't want anything 'huge' so start with this and the NX3000D would allow for upgrades......two UM18-22s in a full Marty would be sweet but don't think I can sway the size


EDIT
Would be the correct tube kit for the VBSS?
https://solen.ca/products/accessorie...rts/psp4-bkht/
You can save like a hundred bucks by just building slot ports instead of buying the ports from Solen.
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You can save like a hundred bucks by just building slot ports instead of buying the ports from Solen.
I considered that but the look of the ports, I think, are night and day better!

Spent $140 cad on 4 port kits shipped 😕 oh well, lol

Just have to wait for everything to show up now as EVERYTHING has been ordered!
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I considered that but the look of the ports, I think, are night and day better!

Spent $140 cad on 4 port kits shipped 😕 oh well, lol

Just have to wait for everything to show up now as EVERYTHING has been ordered!
Well you will have some sweet looking boxes starting next week. What did you end up ordering? PA460's?
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I considered that but the look of the ports, I think, are night and day better!

Spent $140 cad on 4 port kits shipped 😕 oh well, lol

Just have to wait for everything to show up now as EVERYTHING has been ordered!
Well you will have some sweet looking boxes starting next week. What did you end up ordering? PA460's?
I did!

I've been reading every page on the VBSS thread too, seen the Black wood grain vinyl wrapped box and that's what I think I will try as they will match my RC-70's
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Make sure you v-groove the joint seams and refill them or that line will bleed through.
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Make sure you v-groove the joint seams and refill them or that line will bleed through.

So I know some of these words...lol
Do you mean something like this? for the Vinyl wrap to dip into?
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Check out this post (#152)

https://www.avsforum.com/forum/155-d...l#post59614908

and scroll down to post #156 to see what it looks like after the filler
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Check out this post (#152)

https://www.avsforum.com/forum/155-d...l#post59614908

and scroll down to post #156 to see what it looks like after the filler
Thanks, this helps a ton!!

Yeah without filling the vinyl will get sucked in and lines will show.
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Yeah I have tried everything with my speakers, I had my volt6s sanded to PERFECTION! I used sanding sealer , resanded to perfection .... then 2 coats of duratex .... I can still see the seams. Next time I will do the groove technique.
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