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Dj Dee 12-27-2015 06:24 AM

Screenshot CRT or Digital 2015-201?
 
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Screenshots are usually just bull, but CRT vs Digital will show differences clearly.




Thread rules:
So, adhere to these please:

1. No Bickering.
2. Use an upload site that keeps Exif data intact to check no software processing being used. image.org for example.
3. Minimum size 16/9 2999x2000/ 235:1 2999x1000 res to make a comparison.
4. For comparing to see more side by side without a lot of black, remove top and bottom in picture. Because they will and have to be removed to get the pictures close for comparison.
5. The shots should be posted one on top of the other to avoid degrading them by either shrinking or scaling up. Both can break up the structure of the image after it' initial resizing. Screencap can be used to illustrate if originals are posted.















dzseki 12-27-2015 08:23 AM

Those pictures are not even 1080p cutouts, instead 1366x768...

Dj Dee 12-27-2015 08:39 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dzseki (Post 40068218)
Those pictures are not even 1080p cutouts, instead 1366x768...

I cut away blackbars quality is the same. and also converted to jpg
size to big.

Between digital projectors the difference is small shown in screenshots.
But CRT is so far from quality HD that you see the difference even on a iPhone or a ipad. Then detail sharpness, debt, clearness, lifelike.
Seen together side by side like I have done many times is just hilarious. But if someone manages to get a screenshot close to the digital I will be impressed. Here a Sony and a JVC dont remember what is who.
http://s19.postimg.org/qzs7qlixv/007..._Sony_HW55.jpg

http://s19.postimg.org/yh1f5t8gz/007...e_JVC_X500.jpg

Kevin 3000 02-22-2016 04:48 AM

JVC Compared to CRT Newest Modded
4 years ago I compared the Tech is this as good as its got?
Show me better if you think this is unrepresentative -
Will not reply to the usual suspects only interested in the best picture.
http://i.imgur.com/uqlQC9h.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/HRc7I02.jpg

Ericglo 02-22-2016 10:09 AM

I guess the JVC is on top.

Kevin 3000 02-23-2016 02:29 AM


ElTopo 02-23-2016 06:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin 3000 (Post 41798609)
JVC Compared to CRT Newest Modded
4 years ago I compared the Tech is this as good as its got?
Show me better if you think this is unrepresentative -
Will not reply to the usual suspects only interested in the best picture.
http://i.imgur.com/uqlQC9h.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/HRc7I02.jpg


The JVC seems some kind of over sharpened ?!

redfox001 02-23-2016 07:48 AM

Just one :)
Oh Michone :)

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1466/...151f2269_b.jpgIMG_0369 by Radio Head, on Flickr

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1697/...ebde9bb5_b.jpgIMG_0371 by Radio Head, on Flickr

Tv series 1800MB canon powershot 8 MPix

redfox001 02-23-2016 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ElTopo (Post 41831977)
The JVC seems some kind of over sharpened ?!

Unreal. Look like someone got an algorithm to draw colours in a wild mosaic but has so little to do with the world scene that it is supposed to reproduce.

Kevin 3000 02-24-2016 02:35 AM

No Samsara takers? Perhaps the Digital set the Bar too high will look at Baraka tonight and select some scenes your CRTs can cope with;)

ElTopo 02-25-2016 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redfox001 (Post 41833393)
Just one :)
Oh Michone :)

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1466/...151f2269_c.jpgIMG_0369 by Radio Head, on Flickr

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1697/...ebde9bb5_c.jpgIMG_0371 by Radio Head, on Flickr

Tv series 1800MB canon powershot 8 MPix


This is a DIGITAL (CINE9) projector, right ? :wink:

redfox001 02-27-2016 01:51 AM

Nope but has the HFQ900 lenses and my Cine 9 looks exactly the same. I just improved on the typical CRT look that comes with simplicity in the video chain and tubes and some more stuff. But if you can not get it simple you have to do something else. One day I am going to mod a digital again. My Hd350 was not bad too after some changes.

Kevin 3000 02-28-2016 03:52 AM

X90 Full JPG Quality Baraka samples - New Free Nikon Image Space
Click on Slideshow - Mute that Music - Cropped in camera - Exif Data Intact.

https://nis.nikonimagespace.com/html...thpZ1uGCesxVXM

No code to preview full quality here. May test later.


I will add (as this is a CRT vs Digital screenshot War thread)
Any Super Modded Triple wammy CRT think they got me beat post same :p

DrDon 02-29-2016 04:22 PM

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Good-natured ribbing is one thing. But there's a line where that becomes insulting. To that point, posts have been removed and infractions issued. No more bickering at all.

If this is going to be a screenshot thread, then post the screenshots along with the technical information related to that screenshot.

DrDon 03-02-2016 12:29 PM

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Thread rolled back to my prior post and reopened.

Kevin 3000 03-04-2016 05:59 AM

JVC X90 sample from Baraka
http://i.imgur.com/9Wa2jX0.jpg

Kevin 3000 03-04-2016 08:46 AM

JVC X90 a CRT favourite around the net - may grab some and compare if no CRT owners are willing to share the look of their Modded Machines.
http://i.imgur.com/Qi9Pen5.jpg

draganm 03-04-2016 10:20 AM

well I could care less about the CRT vs. digital debate that's been going on since before I joined years ago but , if you really want my honest opinion the second picture looks a little flat with less contrast and lower color saturation

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dj Dee (Post 40066618)
Here screencap so you can find the right frame in the film.
Screenshots are usually just bull, but CRT vs Digital will show differences clearly.


http://s19.postimg.org/520uhgmqr/Obl...7_09_44_44.png



Quote:

Originally Posted by Dj Dee (Post 40066666)
Here shots from the JVC x500 with Canon EOS 450D

http://s19.postimg.org/thdnw9b1f/IMG_2851_Oblivion.jpg




Kevin 3000 03-04-2016 01:06 PM

JVC X90 Baraka sample.
http://i.imgur.com/RED1aoU.jpg

Kevin 3000 03-06-2016 10:12 AM

JVC X90 Lucy
http://i.imgur.com/XtoMLLY.jpg


JVC X90
http://i.imgur.com/ejDHp5U.jpg

CRT VDC Marquee 9553LC Ultra, Moome V3 MP mods Sourced off AVforums.
http://i.imgur.com/71zk14y.jpg

JVC X90
http://i.imgur.com/WftVFW5.jpg

Kevin 3000 03-06-2016 12:42 PM

Close up of the above....


http://i.imgur.com/LUHDJwK.jpg

Ericglo 03-06-2016 02:21 PM

The CRT looks a lot better than I would have thought in comparison to the JVC. I wonder if the CRT was calibrated.

Kevin 3000 03-08-2016 09:43 AM


aj1221 03-09-2016 10:23 PM

Is moome still offering cards for CRT. I bought a few from him years for my CRT which I have not turned on in years. One of these days I will have to fire it up again to see if it still works. Nothing touches CRT today except in terms of brightness. JVC and Sony is getting very close and close enough for many.

aj1221 03-09-2016 10:24 PM

Forgot to mention I have a Marquee 9"

aj1221 03-09-2016 10:54 PM

Is moome still offering CRT mods. I bought a few cards from him years ago I have a Marquee I have not fired up in years. Im scared to turn it on but it worked last time I used it.

Curt Palme 03-10-2016 07:32 AM

All the cards are available on my site below.

aj1221 03-10-2016 10:03 AM

Thank you Curt it is good to see CRT is still alive.

KM987654 03-11-2016 08:27 PM

The thing that I have noticed over time watching digital projection as opposed to my CRT projector is I believe I am watching the sharpness as if its feature like color or color depth. This is something I certainly don't do with my CRT projector. Don't get me wrong I want my CRT as sharp as I can get it but that sharpness is not part of the viewing experience. With digital I find I am looking at the edges of abjects constantly perhaps its because those edges are so sharp compared to whatever is behind the object.:cool:

tanwn1 03-12-2016 05:26 PM

With a jvc x500/700 and all processing defeated. It is very very natural and clearly more defined and detailed compared to a crt. No hint of artificial sharpness at all.


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