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post #361 of 411 Old 12-29-2018, 03:38 PM
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Chris , here is one of my first 4K P1000 videos using the zoom handheld before I switched off the default "Zoom Microphone" mode that distorts the sound .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMhkdA1Lmm0


You could hear the audio distortion in this 4K P1000 video that was just uploaded :
https://youtu.be/VJAYZCJxLwk

Just like the distorted audio from using the default "Zoom Mic" setting in one of my first 4K videos that I posted here back in September :
https://youtu.be/wBxrYRGEf-I


Joe your drag material was good,its when the focal length goes past 1000mm that handheld is a no go for me,especialy with the bit of a shake i have due to some medication i have to take.The dipper film i dont know if it was hand held or some form of brace but for filming that a tripod is a must it was pretty shaky.
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Happy New Year guys ! Hey Chris checkout the amazing P1000 shots by O'Summer(Ginny Lee) on Flickr !
https://www.flickr.com/photos/summer...57701661054454
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Happy New Year, Joe. Those are really beautiful shots. If Nikon could even come close in video quality to the quality the camera gets on the stills side, they'd sell a boatload of these cameras!
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I agree Ken, Nikon is not like Sony or Panasonic when it comes to video mode. They are still selling the old 2013 Nikon Df with no video mode for much more than the Sony A7 III.
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...ra_silver.html
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Happy New Year guys ! Hey Chris checkout the amazing P1000 shots by O'Summer(Ginny Lee) on Flickr !
https://www.flickr.com/photos/summer...57701661054454
Super shots Joe for sure
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Happy New Year, Joe. Those are really beautiful shots. If Nikon could even come close in video quality to the quality the camera gets on the stills side, they'd sell a boatload of these cameras!
Actualy Ken i think the video is not bad,especialy on wide angle but on long focal lengths subjects are best not needing panning for me,i prefer the video on my P1000 to the Sony RX10 MK 11 i once had.I Prefer all my Panasonics PQ though but they dont have the reach i often want.
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I agree Chris, the P1000 4K videos are as good as any other small sensor 1/2.3" superzoom that I have seen. We have been spoiled for years with high quality 4K videos like that from the APS-C Samsung NX1 etc. I just posted my P1000 4K video screenshot to Steve Torrence who won the World Championship in drag racing.

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I agree Ken, Nikon is not like Sony or Panasonic when it comes to video mode. They are still selling the old 2013 Nikon Df with no video mode for much more than the Sony A7 III.
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...ra_silver.html
The problem is that Nikon are using an older processor (an Expeed 4 rather than the most recent Expeed 6). It is a pity, Nikon always do this with their lower cost cameras, unlike the other manufacturers. If they had put the most recent processor in the P1000, we would probably have got a reasonably capable video camera.
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I assume because coming from that "100-year history" of deeply entrenched still photography mindset the company's top management and bean counters may have taken a look at how the footage coming out of not only the P1000 but so many other models all the way up to the flagship D5 and said "That's good enough moving image on the camera that bears our sacred 100-year-old logo" and that's probably why keener efforts on part of at least some of their more forward thinking engineers may have been prevented.
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The P1000 was clearly built with left over parts in mind to save a few development dollars. It has the same rear screen as the P900, and the same sensor. The processor and battery are the same as the ones used in the defunct Nikon 1 line. There appears to be a shortage of the batteries btw, it seems everyone is out of stock with no clear idea of when more will show up.

It is unfortunate that they did this, putting in a better LCD, processor and a bigger battery would have added a few hundred to the MRSP, but it would have been well worth it.
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Lowepro Flipside 300 DSLR Camera Backpack with Nikon holster case and P1000 :

BTW the P1000 has a 3.2" LCD vs 3" for the P900.
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Question help? nikon p1000 focus issue for a novice

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I am a bit of a novice camera user, and I can't seem to get my new Nikon P1000 to focus at max optical zoom. It focuses pretty well at 2000mm, but very poorly at 3000mm. Any ideas?
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PS I am new to the site so apologies if I've mis-posted..
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I don't think there is anything wrong with your P1000's autofocus at 3000mm. From both images I can tell the lighting for both shots was far from ideal. It looks heavily overcast and though the subject's outlines are clear enough for the AF system to make some distinction on between them and the background but here the distinction wasn't big enough for the AF to lock onto something due to the light level, low contrast level (very low here) and similarity in color between the subject and the background i.e. low color contrast.

Your camera's AF system relies solely on the contrast between the focused subject and the other elements in the frame to work. And the lens at the 3000mm zoom is very dim at f8. All the zoom lenses do have lower contrast at the tele positions than at the wider angle positions. The longer they zoom out, the lower the actual contrast level transmitted through the lenses. This is not unique to the lens on your camera.

So, you can try again in bright daylight shooting some other subjects that may have more detail and colors and see how it works. At 2000mm-3000mm don't expect the focus to be snappy even in the best of conditions. The focus will be slower and less decisive and that's normal.
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If you are shooting at max zoom with the P1000 you are better off doing manual focus. AF is not at all reliable at longer focal lengths due to low contrast and a lack of light, as P&Struefan pointed out.

In poor light you are going to get a lot of noise, which will contribute to the lack of apparent resolution, plus, at those long focal lengths atmospheric distortions will muddy up any edge. All of that combined will result in blurry images. You need good light to have decent images with the camera.

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For me filming moving subjects with the P1000 is ok on wider focal lengths but at full zoom subjects have to be still,even then wind strength comes into it.
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My P1000 with Rode mic and Nikon remote

The mic should eliminate any zoom noise and the remote should eliminate camera shake at the long end.
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With second arm and Nikon remote with double sided tape.
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close wide 4K video from the P1000

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The TheSnapChick are correct regarding it can be a struggle getting a subject in the centre of the frame on long focal distance,subjects more often fly off etc for me before i get mine central,i used my camera yesterday for the first time in a fair while as very calm conditions were forcast,as is often the case where i went there was a sea breeze but it was not that strong and i realy stuggled, most clips were even worse than in this clip
For stills and moon video its a winner sadly for me it wont work with my Tripod kit.
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If Nikon was to be really honest they should have been labeled the stabilization IN VIDEO as "for shooting on a tripod or solid mount only" as you have clearly demonstrated. Let's face it, the stabilization, no natter how good, will never be half decent in video at the max zoom or near the max. It is a simple law of physics concerning the field of view aimed at any subject. If one already has problem locking or fixing the position of the subject in the viewfinder when the camera is mounted on a tripod then imagine how much displacement he is going to cause doing the same while handholding.

Also I believe most of Nikon's customers who have upgraded from the brand's film or older digital cameras as well as most casual shooters who have bought the P1000 for its headline zooming capability don't understand how hard it is to get this physics-defying feature to work adequately well in shooting video compared to still photography.
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If Nikon was to be really honest they should have been labeled the stabilization IN VIDEO as "for shooting on a tripod or solid mount only" as you have clearly demonstrated. Let's face it, the stabilization, no natter how good, will never be half decent in video at the max zoom or near the max. It is a simple law of physics concerning the field of view aimed at any subject. If one already has problem locking or fixing the position of the subject in the viewfinder when the camera is mounted on a tripod then imagine how much displacement he is going to cause doing the same while handholding.

Also I believe most of Nikon's customers who have upgraded from the brand's film or older digital cameras as well as most casual shooters who have bought the P1000 for its headline zooming capability don't understand how hard it is to get this physics-defying feature to work adequately well in shooting video compared to still photography.
You are correct,what i am trying to show and although some can even take hand held long zoom video of very good quality with this camera i cant ,handholding is out for me as medication causes some shake,for tripod use air conditions have to be dead calm to avoid movement.This GH5 film has focal lengths using the cameras settings close to the P1000s optical max and breeze condicions especialy the first 45s similar to in my P1000 test and 3m35s much stronger wind,but getting steady footage is far easier.
i am not trying to take anything from the P1000 it has so many things going for it but for me the downsides outweigh the upsides sadly.

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The TheSnapChick are correct regarding it can be a struggle getting a subject in the centre of the frame on long focal distance,subjects more often fly off etc for me before i get mine central,i used my camera yesterday for the first time in a fair while as very calm conditions were forcast,as is often the case where i went there was a sea breeze but it was not that strong and i realy stuggled, most clips were even worse than in this clip
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkY6tXBoZc8
For stills and moon video its a winner sadly for me it wont work with my Tripod kit.
For things that are a long way off the dot-sight is a must. Otherwise it takes too long to find whatever it is that you are shooting. That is especially true with birds.

Even with stills shot in good light, you still need a tripod. The remote shutter is also recommended because the act of pressing the shutter moves the camera sufficiently to significantly change the framing of your image. If you want reliable shots, get a sturdy tripod, the dot sight and the remote control.

The camera is front heavy, so your tripod will probably require some additional counterbalance and some additional dampening.

Basically for a camera like this (or any extreme focal length camera for that matter) you need to plan your shot and do it properly, or you will get disappointing results. You can't take snapshots at these sorts of focal lengths.
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For things that are a long way off the dot-sight is a must. Otherwise it takes too long to find whatever it is that you are shooting. That is especially true with birds.

Even with stills shot in good light, you still need a tripod. The remote shutter is also recommended because the act of pressing the shutter moves the camera sufficiently to significantly change the framing of your image. If you want reliable shots, get a sturdy tripod, the dot sight and the remote control.

The camera is front heavy, so your tripod will probably require some additional counterbalance and some additional dampening.

Basically for a camera like this (or any extreme focal length camera for that matter) you need to plan your shot and do it properly, or you will get disappointing results. You can't take snapshots at these sorts of focal lengths.
As for stills i rarely take them and the Miller 3001 is far from cheap and as heavy as i can carry these days, subjects birds etc rarely allow you enough time to plan your shot so lining up as quickly as posible is vital,The GH5 which allows lenses themselves to be fitted to the tripod is much more breeze resistant allowing for reasonably steady footage and panning,for me its only on long reach filming that i struggle with the P1000 as on wider focal lengths its fine but a much smaller camera would suffice then.
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You will have the same issues with long focal length on any camera. Most of the stability issues can be overcome with a tripod that is heavy enough and stable enough however. The problem you are having is not the camera itself, it is the setup that is inadequate. Long focal length images come with compromises when it comes to flexibility.
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Something like this might help with your stability issues at long focal lengths:

https://www.manfrotto.ca/telephoto-lens-support

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...a64367813cda49

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[QUOTE=Tugela;58225784]You will have the same issues with long focal length on any camera. Most of the stability issues can be overcome with a tripod that is heavy enough and stable enough however. The problem you are having is not the camera itself, it is the setup that is inadequate. Long focal length images come with compromises when it comes to flexibility.[/QUOTE
As i said in post 386 i dont have stability issues of any seriousness using my GH5 as pro lenses fit on the tripod themselves.Thanks for the links.
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Something like this might help with your stability issues at long focal lengths:

https://www.manfrotto.ca/telephoto-lens-support

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...a64367813cda49
First time I have seen this. Should be more suitable (maneuverable) for lighter rigs such as the P1000 or a Micro 4/3 camera body with a moderate tele lens such as the Olympus 300mm f/4. Traditional mounts like those heavy duty U-shaped brackets popular with professional DSLR shooters who shoot with large aperture tele lenses, or using two separate tripods, one for the camera and the other to directly support the lens are both too cumbersome and very heavy for the types of gear most of us here normally use.
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